I bet if CCP made comfortable POSes there'd be a mass exodus of guys to WHs.

EVE is and has always been about screw over each and every person you can, the mostly Icelandic psychos that made it are most probably "jerks" that made a game FOR jerks. It's encouraged.

And that simply means you choice to play EVE is the bad choice, not the choices jerks make to be jerks in a game made by jerks......

For those of us in the cheap seats that just want a laugh, please do go ahead and define "comfortable" in this sense.

There's also stories and maybe even songs from the FC.

I had it in a FW corp, didn't even to endure null politics and stuff

Also FC on alchool, lots of it!

Allow system to system warp "Star Trek style" and get rid of local and nullsec can get all of the targets that it wants.

They do want targets, right? I mean, I see a lot of complaining about a lack of target and phat loots, plus raging over "AFK cloakers" and why they can't farm when one is present. They say they go out to null because they are not PVP-averse carebears like people in high sec. Surely they will embrace my idea.

Honestly what I think there needs to be more incentive for isn't for people to come to nullsec, but for space-holding entities to want to have other people in their systems.

If CCP and null-sec pilots want more people to come to null-sec, what they need to do is make the place more open. In an ideal world, null-sec pilots would want to open up their stations to neutral pilots. Instead of trying to mess with hi-sec pilots, they should be competing for their attention - "hey, don't go to his space, come to my space! It's so much better here!" Territory owners would look less like tyrants and more like landlords and franchise managers. Null sec blocs would be judged not by how much territory they owned but by what quality the space they hold was, how well they could defend it, how safe they could keep it and how easy it was to get to it.

I don't really like CVA, but I think their space is a good example of what I'm getting at.

i like null because there is no ninja looters, i don't have to go get a mission, or traverse multiple systems to go back an get my noctis, i like that my m8s are all there in the same space, and really, its not all that unsafe. I have lost no ships of importance since joining the HBC, i think i lost some candy ass talwar, thats about it, even on roams, which are quick and easy to get into and get movin. I just prefer null to anything else, i can do the things i wanna do faster, if that makes any sense..

This is probably the best idea ever. I've often wondered myself where the Null Sec empires are- the safe havens- the player run security space in no security space.

And the availability of income is actually higher in null.

This is nonsense. Anomalies do not spawn endlessly, a fully upgraded system with the relevant index at 5 will have 4-5 anomalies that are remotely lucrative. This is, of course, after logistics people upgrade the ihub by using a freighter to haul the upgrades from highsec.

In comparison, there is no limit to how many missions an agent can give out. One agent can support an unlimited number of mission runners while a fully upgraded system can support maybe half a dozen anom runners.

And you think this is fine?

This is nonsense. Anomalies do not spawn endlessly, a fully upgraded system with the relevant index at 5 will have 4-5 anomalies that are remotely lucrative. This is, of course, after logistics people upgrade the ihub by using a freighter to haul the upgrades from highsec.

In comparison, there is no limit to how many missions an agent can give out. One agent can support an unlimited number of mission runners while a fully upgraded system can support maybe half a dozen anom runners.

And you think this is fine?

What about moons? *giggles* Oh yah, forgot about that.

Its not fair. *tears*. All the money is in hisec. *more tears*.

What about moons? *giggles* Oh yah, forgot about that.

hahaha please tell me more about moons because I absolutely love reading how hisec pubbies understand moons

if only every region of space had tech

hahaha please tell me more about moons because I absolutely love reading how hisec pubbies understand moons

Guilty as charged and any barge/exhumer user not doing this are either running more than one thus having to target new roids/move cargo more often or simply have no life and can't find something better to do. FFS it's still over 2 min with orca boost IIRC.

sure, all of the targets will move to highsec to make 85% the income they'd make in nullsec with zero risk because if you think that people are willing to be fish in a barrel, I can't help you

When did goons become the entrenched, having it easy and wanting nothing to change, establishment?

I just want to know.

then the community needs to work at building an economy together and this takes a lot of time
and is not posable with sov changing hands daily :)
now if there was a lock on sov by means of economy power that greatly reduced the threat of loss sov perhaps more players would invest in such a place a Jita in 0.0 :) a region wide lock

Honestly what I think there needs to be more incentive for isn't for people to come to nullsec, but for space-holding entities to want to have other people in their systems.

If CCP and null-sec pilots want more people to come to null-sec, what they need to do is make the place more open. In an ideal world, null-sec pilots would want to open up their stations to neutral pilots. Instead of trying to mess with hi-sec pilots, they should be competing for their attention - "hey, don't go to his space, come to my space! It's so much better here!" Territory owners would look less like tyrants and more like landlords and franchise managers. Null sec blocs would be judged not by how much territory they owned but by what quality the space they hold was, how well they could defend it, how safe they could keep it and how easy it was to get to it.

I don't really like CVA, but I think their space is a good example of what I'm getting at.

It's ironic that, though 0.0 seems naturally to be the place where players who want to "be part of something" and play with more of the sandbox should gravitate towards, a large number of players who look for that out there return disappointed. There simply is no place in nullsec (that is secure enough) where a player can go and simply be themselves and play the way they want to play. An alliance that focuses on providing the security and freedom within its borders for carebear types to go about their business will attract massive numbers of high sec players who want to earn more, do something different, and be part of something that they can get behind. Such an alliance would immediately become a target of a bloodthirsty alliance seeking to prove that might is right. If it could weather that storm such an alliance, establishing itself as its own high sec out in 0.0 would attract an entire segment of the player base from Empire, most of whom would be able to fill a vital role.



The first alliance to really focus on attracting carebears and providing them an environment to thrive in will gradually see its population, internal economy, and military ranks swell beyond anything the other alliances can manage. Missioners and incursioners will stream in to farm npcs and engage in "good guy" pvp. Miners and industrialists will stream in to have access to better ores, more production slots.Tons of "bittervets" who see something interesting and new happening in the sandbox will throw in their lot. Such an influx of players will quickly create the need for more living space, which will give pvpers wars to fight. Pirates would be attracted too to an accumulation of care bear types in null sec. Playing cat and mouse with alliance security would provide a lot of challenge and fun for both sides.