I am not a fan of having a ship that is not at risk determining outcomes of battles. That's why I am opposed to OGB. Titans are in the same boat, they completely determine the outcome of a battle without ever having to leave the safety of their pos. Titans should have to jump through their own bridge first before other ships can follow. Maybe if the Titan has to jump as well people won't bridge on 3-4 man cruiser gangs.

I see. I like that idea.
So you are saying that a Titan must physically create a bridge by jumping to the cyno and create something like a wormhole behind where it jumped from. Then the fleet that was waiting there where the Titan was, can right click on the wormhole the titan created/left behind and jump through it. Was this what you had in mind?

Another idea that one of my corp members came up with. A HIC should be able to prevent a cyno from lighting up with a script loaded in the Warp Disruption Field Generator modules and prevent a Capital Ships from locking on to a cyno ship.

Can't afford a Titan. Don't have access to build one, and we are not big enough to build one. I though I explained all of this in my first post.

Thank you for your pointers... Do you have anything else to say regarding my propositions other than assuming I'm "whining"? If not, then you are wasting valuable space and adding to more useless post material that people can actually spent their time in reading something more interesting.



Rant rant etc complain complain

So, your opinion is invalid.

Good Day!

I'm fine with titan drops but if it can't be built in low sec it shouldn't be allowed for use in low sec. Either get rid of super caps from low sec or allow them to be built in low sec.

Hello everyone,

I am writing this forum page in hope to get CCPGÇÖs attention. To get CCPGÇÖs attention, I first need to get my fellow peers attention. The purpose of this forum is to discuss whether Titan Bridging in Low-Sec should have any sort of LIMITATIONS or INDICATIONS of a possible bridging.

The reason behind this is because, my corporation along with our coalition live in low sec , and we have been bridged 6 times by bigger coalitions and stronger alliances ON DECEMBER ALONE . Obviously if you got a Titan at your disposal, you certainly have a bigger advantage on smaller corporations. Now, wrecking a gate camp or a roaming fleet of 5 ships with 30 to 40 ships thanks to Titan Bridges, whether they have SKILLS OR NOT is a different forum Topic .

My propositions are:
1. Limitation
My propositions regarding Limitation are a lot, but I will propose only one of my ideas. My idea regarding limitation on a Titan Bridge would be to limit a Titan Bridge to Null-Sec area only. By doing so, those who CAN Titan Bridge will have to deal with corporations and alliances that can do the same.


The premise behind your limitation is flawed. There are already corps that live in low sec that can field titans. There are many corps in null sec which cannot field titans. The reason titans are able to bridge into low sec is because a cyno can be lit in low sec. If this were not so then no one could jump their carriers and jump freighters from null sec back to empire.


2. Indication
My proposition on this matter is that ships that have a Cynosural Field Generator I (or for that matter any type of Cyno modules) should have some physical property on the ship that they are fitted just as turrets do. When you click Look At on a ship, an experienced PvP pilot can recognize and distinguish different type of turrets installed on a ship to asses his/her chances of winning an engagement against his/her foe. Such a thing should be possible for ships that have a Cyno fitted to it. By doing so, you give a chance to the pilot to decide whether he/she should or shouldnGÇÖt spring the trap.

Personally i agree with the folks in this thread who think you are just a whiner. Folks get hot dropped in eve in both null sec and low sec doing gate camps. This is the RISK you take in camping a single location for long. Folks will find you and set you up to drop on you. There is nothing wrong with this. And it is avoidable.

When my corp has been between alliances (frequently in the past) we usually go to low sec and pirate until moving to a new one. We frequently get hot dropped. And we usually lose very little to those hot drops. Occassionally someone gets caught. Not all that often. Why?

For one thing we usually camp at a perch not on the gate. We usually have scouts in high sec. We generally know who is likely to drop on us. We usually have most of the regular cyno guys book marked. We usually only have a tackler or two on the gate in a Hic. And once we tackle anything we are all aligned to a safe or a pos we have put down in the system. Often we have a falcon or two cloaked and ready to jam if a cyno goes up. It really isnt all that hard to avoid getting blobbed. It happens from time to time and we may lose a ship or two. If so, props to them for their success.

Would you like some cheese with that?

Boo, other people have ISK and friends and can do things I can't. Yes the titan is safe, but the titan isn't fighting you is it. They still risk their bait and fleet, no different than any gang. You are just butthurt and jealous. Next time prepare and either gank their bait or snipe etc. I see no problem with titan bridges. Not that hard to not fall for bait, titan bridging is not OP Its just a luxury, a 100b isk luxury., one they van lose witha single fuckup. Guess what someone had to grind for that titan, you dont want to, thats your choice. You are just jealous and thus cry nerf.

I dont have access to a titan butmy corp could grind the isk and we just might, when we do ill think. Of you and your tears.

Titans arent the problem you are.

That is a huge risk... risking a bait... lol I thought you were serios, but I see you were joking and just trolling around. lol
Anyways, thank your for providing me with a good morning laughter lol.

Alright, but I must respectfully ask you to not post anymore.
Sorry, but I would rather not have this forum post turn into an Amateur Stand Up comedy show where you can debut your skills.

Thank you, and good day.

Pretty sure people can read what you are writing WITH OUT USING CAPS.

But regardless i dont see Titans as a huge issue in low sec nore them using brigdes. And yes, i know what your saying without having to use Caps Lock, got bridge 4 times the last week to. Latest in Amamake by a tristan fleet, which i found funny and not a problem, next time a see they have a BS in a belt, baiting, its most likely a titan brigde trap which i will avoid, meaning them getting longer inbetween posible brigde targets worth wasting a brigde on.

Wasting a titan brigde on tristans to catch 1 bellicose T1 cruiser indicate to me people are already getting bored.

Whilst i respect your right to free speech with regards to his perfectly valid comment, i dont respect your statement telling him not to post. this is a forum for discussion, HENCE THE NAME (SEE I CAN TYPE IN CAPS TOO)!!!!!!!!!!!. you have no right to tell people not to post just because they disagree with your stupid irrelevant opinions

show me on the doll where the nasty piwates hotdropped you

seriously all these people bitching about titan hotdrops. its easily avoidable just get scouts in the titan home systems, be intelligent, its not difficult. This new eve attitude is what is killing eve. 'oh noes somthign that beats me, i must forum complain about the mechanics rather than think of a solution via ingame methods'

who do you think you are? just because his opinion is different to yours doesnt make them invalid.

also your opinion are hilarious, im drowning in your tears and bitterness!.

Sorry but i have to disagree with your origional assertation that titan bridges are too big an advantage for one very simple reason.

Once you know an entity is capable of using it the counter is very simple - Find the name of their titan alt, save as contact and be aware that a hot drop could be incoming as long as that character is online. Modifiy tactics and fleets accordingly and bosh - advantage negated.

You can also keep track of known cyno alts, maintain cloaked scouts in their titans base systems to check fleet comps (since fleets have to go to the titan to be able to bridge) then modify your fleet accordingly or try to force engagements in systems outside of the titans bridging range. You just have to be prepared to put in a bit of extra effort.

I have to admit these days we use our titan way more for cutting down on time spent traveling to areas we want to roam in rather than hotdropping anyone.

Hello everyone,

I am writing this forum page in hope to get CCPGÇÖs attention. To get CCPGÇÖs attention, I first need to get my fellow peers attention. The purpose of this forum is to discuss whether Titan Bridging in Low-Sec should have any sort of LIMITATIONS or INDICATIONS of a possible bridging.

The reason behind this is because, my corporation along with our coalition live in low sec , and we have been bridged 6 times by bigger coalitions and stronger alliances ON DECEMBER ALONE . Obviously if you got a Titan at your disposal, you certainly have a bigger advantage on smaller corporations. Now, wrecking a gate camp or a roaming fleet of 5 ships with 30 to 40 ships thanks to Titan Bridges, whether they have SKILLS OR NOT is a different forum Topic .

Okay. There aren't only a handful of Titans in game... or are they? If not, then you can't really find them all. What do you do when every single member of your enemy alliance drops a cyno every time with any pilot they have on the field?

What do you do when you know the enemy alliance has about half a dozen Titans, and you can't afford to keep a cloaked scout in their system 24/7. As far as we have noticed, they are keeping most of their Titan pilots a secret.

What do you do when a new alliance comes around and hotdrops a fleet on you... then another one... and so on and so on. So far 6 different alliances... (gosh I keep repeating the same thing)...

You made the following statement "Sorry but i have to disagree with your origional assertation that titan bridges are too big an advantage for one very simple reason", but you have only given valid reasons for corps that can master big of enough fleets as the Titan Owners. So don't you think that your explanation to counter a Titan owning corp, is not very useful for a small corp?

1. Limitation
My propositions regarding Limitation are a lot, but I will propose only one of my ideas. My idea regarding limitation on a Titan Bridge would be to limit a Titan Bridge to Null-Sec area only. By doing so, those who CAN Titan Bridge will have to deal with corporations and alliances that can do the same.

2. Indication
My proposition on this matter is that ships that have a Cynosural Field Generator I (or for that matter any type of Cyno modules) should have some physical property on the ship that they are fitted just as turrets do. When you click Look At on a ship, an experienced PvP pilot can recognize and distinguish different type of turrets installed on a ship to asses his/her chances of winning an engagement against his/her foe. Such a thing should be possible for ships that have a Cyno fitted to it. By doing so, you give a chance to the pilot to decide whether he/she should or shouldnGÇÖt spring the trap.

As things stand right now, corporations that own Titans have a huge field advantage over smaller corporations.

*snip*

Even if you don't see Titans as a huge issue in low sec. Do you mind commenting on some of the possible ways of resolving this perfect advantage edge big corps have over small ones?

Thanks.

You wrongfully assume that all nullsec entities have titans and/or only those are interested in fighting you.
Also this would bring another problem to the front. Bridging subcaps is impossible in lowsec? No problem, you'll be dropped by tracking dreads with triage support or supers. How is that any better? Or do you wrongfully assume that entities that can drop 15-25 supers on your gang are confined to nullsec?

You mean you can't sniff a trap and you need pointers that ship X has a cyno. Let me give you some pointers here. Any freaking noobship can have a cyno. You are not safe anywhere if you lack situational awareness.

Will be interesting if this is implemented, all you need to travel safely in lowsec would be to fit a cyno to your transport ship and everyone will avoid you like the plague since you might be the "bait" for 1141039 ships eager to facemelt your 5 BCs.

That advantage is only dictated by sheer numbers or sheer firepower. If your corp can only field 10-15 people, then you would be roflstomped by a corp that can field 40-50 people, even if the 40-50 drop you by jumping a gate into you or via cyno, makes no difference whatsoever.

Not sure if serious.

EDIT. Nah this guy has 95 kills and no indication that anyone has ever bridged onto him. There is no way this is a serious post. Shame on us all for falling for the emotroll.