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Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:26:00 - [1] hey this is THE setup! ------------------------------------------------------ hi slots-4x dual 650 mm hi slots-4x siege launchers ------------------------------------------------------ med slots-1x Xlarge shield booster-first tech 1 later tech 2 med slots-1x AB or MWD (travelling) med slots-1x shield boost amplifier med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 ------------------------------------------------------ low slots-4x power diagnostic units-later tech 2's! low slots-3x overdrive injector system 1's this combonation must surely win-it can out move any armor tanking ship-as its very nice to be able to race to where your headed-and it has tons of recharge rate and shield capacity boosts-so it can out recharge the damage it gets! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:30:00 - [2] Looks good. Care for a 1v1? I'll bring all tech1 gear aswell, can't afford to lose any tech2 stuff atm. /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Looks good. Care for a 1v1? I'll bring all tech1 gear aswell, can't afford to lose any tech2 stuff atm. Think he will be surprised to see you show up in a Maller? ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss What is your Radical Dream?
Stribog	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Amargan Nagil hey this is THE setup! For getting killed fast, sure.
d'hofren	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:49:00 - [5] oh dear. Please try reading some of the replies to the other threads you posted. Look, I'll even link to them for you.. one the other
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:50:00 - [6] you guys dont have any ideas for a better setup? dont bother to post anything but-"heh" you will get killed with this setup "heh" SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:52:00 - [7] We did in 3 other threads. Now, about that 1v1? /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.05.23 20:58:00 - [8] Leave the guy alone. Let him entertain his fantasies. I mean it looks sweet and all. Tip: Shields are to inefficient for close range combat. You'll be drinking cap like tap water. If you really want to see a setup like this work, try it on the Cyclone. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 21:33:00 - [9] question-are there any passive armor hardeners? i really do not want to have to be activating those all the time! yes ill message you in game regarding a possible PVP match elve! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Morat Jernau	Posted - 2005.05.23 21:33:00 - [10] "heh" you will get killed with this setup "heh"
Morat Jernau	Posted - 2005.05.23 21:39:00 - [11] Edited by: Morat Jernau on 23/05/2005 21:40:18 Passive armor hardeners are called 'Energized Plating'. Standard active hardeners give +50% resistance and passive give +32.5%.
Shay'la	Posted - 2005.05.23 21:59:00 - [12] Shield tanking with a typhoon is not really it's specialty. With all those low slots, and having more armour than shields, armour tanking is the way to go. In testing I found that more hardeners than repairers is the best setup to go for. Really, the more you limit the damage you take, the less work the repairers have to do. Simply sticking a load of repairers on is not really a good idea because in the time it takes to cycle you will have taken loads of damage.
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:03:00 - [13] ok how about this revision: ------------------------------------------------------ hi slots-4x dual 650 mm hi slots-4x siege launchers ------------------------------------------------------ med slots-1x AB or MWD (travelling) med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 ------------------------------------------------------ then for low slots! 1x xlarge armor repair system 1x large or medium armor repair system-whichever cpu allows- 4x active hardeners 1x overdrive injectors! you have got to get there sometime dammit! is there anything for med slots to boost speed? i could throw some kind of propulsion upgrade in there? also maybe sub 1 cap recharger for a shield booster? so i will be able to raise those-not just sit there watching 0 shields armor tanking all the time? SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Molten Platypii	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:17:00 - [14] I suggest a nanofiber instead of the overdrive injector. If you want to free up a mid-slot put a nos in lieu of a dual 650. Originally by: Amargan Nagil ok how about this revision: ------------------------------------------------------ hi slots-4x dual 650 mm hi slots-4x siege launchers ------------------------------------------------------ med slots-1x AB or MWD (travelling) med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 med slots-1x capacitor recharger 1 first tech 1 later tech 2 ------------------------------------------------------ then for low slots! 1x xlarge armor repair system 1x large or medium armor repair system-whichever cpu allows- 4x active hardeners 1x overdrive injectors! you have got to get there sometime dammit! is there anything for med slots to boost speed? i could throw some kind of propulsion upgrade in there? also maybe sub 1 cap recharger for a shield booster? so i will be able to raise those-not just sit there watching 0 shields armor tanking all the time?
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:24:00 - [15] just found out about this:-may be more UBER than the armor tank even! ------------------------------------------------------ hi slots-4x dual 650 mm hi slots-4x siege launchers ------------------------------------------------------ med slots-1x AB or MWD (travelling) med slots-1x Xlarge shield booster! again! med slots-1x invulnerability field 1-later tech 2's for 60% resistance againt all damage types! med slots-1x invulnerability field 1-later tech 2's for 60% resistance againt all damage types! ------------------------------------------------------ then for low slots! 4x power diagnostic units -would boost cap recharge rate 30%! add 16% to shield capacity-later tech 2's! 3x overdrive injector 1's-now we are getting there faster! what this would do would take some skill-activate the invulnerability fields-2 seconds or so prior to incoming missile damage etc..-because those things would take 100 energy every 2.5 seconds-would have to be turning them on and off alot-but this SHOULD be more effective than armor tanking! thoughts please? SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
benwallace	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:24:00 - [16] try this 4x heavy nos 4x siege 3x cap rechargers 1x disruptor 20km 1x lrg accomm armor rep 1x medium t2 4x hardener 1x rcu get named stuff or you'll have cpu problems --------------------------
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:28:00 - [17] my bad-*because invulnerability fields are not penalized-they stack without penalty! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
DUFFMANX	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:28:00 - [18] K im a regular phoon pilot and here wot i use 4 * 720mm howies (tech 2 if u got skill) 4 * siege 1 * lif ab 3 * cap recharger 2's 2 * Lrg named reps (accomodations) 4 * hardners 1 * cap relay I use this to rat angels, solo lvl 4 missions and pvp and is a solid setup, but after missile changes will need to re adjust. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 22:53:00 - [19] can only use one invulnerability field in med slot-due to CPU requirements!-also can only use 2 power diagnostic systmes in low-and 5 overdrive injectors.... with a cap recharger in mid-this had my CPU out put at 690-which is very high -well thanks-im going to go for shields afterall-with the invulnerability field adding 25% to all resistances-ill activate it right before the missiles hit me-later on with tech 2-would be able to fit 2 of those on there for 60% resistance! now that rocks! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Weirda	Posted - 2005.05.23 23:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Shay'la Shield tanking with a typhoon is not really it's specialty. With all those low slots, and having more armour than shields, armour tanking is the way to go. In testing I found that more hardeners than repairers is the best setup to go for. Really, the more you limit the damage you take, the less work the repairers have to do. Simply sticking a load of repairers on is not really a good idea because in the time it takes to cycle you will have taken loads of damage. Actually - the shield is larger on the phoon then the armor. From what Weirda can tell, this ship WAS designed to shield tank, and fly long range. The CPR penalty nixed that though - prolly since most ppl don't do that with the ship is was overlooked. It's optimal bonus makes 1200s wonderful, pushing their range out further then a 1400 on a Tempest, while allowing you the luxury of the better tracking. 4xCruise also do nicely on there for that. The CPU - well... it smells like Shield tanking... the powergrid... smells like shield tanking. All of this being said, Weirda prefer a short range armor tank setup on the phoon, and not the one listed by the OP. -- Thread Killer <END TRANSMISSION>
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.23 23:45:00 - [21] weirda you are just plain silly-the typhoon doesnt have the powergrid for 4 1200 mm's and 4 siege launchers-thats why we are going with 4 dual 650's on it-because they spit out the ammo!-and dont cost but half of what a 1200 mm long ranger does on the powergrid-we are using cruise missiles for our long range-not artillery :) so we are using the phoon here to smash them up close with auto cannons and drones-the 10% range bonuse might even allow for auto cannons with up to 25km range! so we will let the frigates come close-and just pummel the BS's with cruise launchers from 60 km or so! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Thirfir Hawat	Posted - 2005.05.24 00:07:00 - [22] Here is my setup. I use it to solo kill Arch Angels. It can take a 1.5 mil Arch Angel Seraphim, 2 500k commanders and 4 25k inties. Hi- 4x Siege Launchers 4x whatever you want - I use beam lasers cause I don't like lugging ammo around Med 1x 100MN AB (Named) 3x Cap Rechargers (named) Low 1x named large armor rep-gives 660 armor per cycle 1x large armor rep (for emergencies) 1x 1600mm named plate (the best one ingame) 3x named armor hardeners 1x Cap Power Relay Lots of drones (em and explosive mix works well) There is no hunt like the hunt of man.
xaioguai	Posted - 2005.05.24 00:35:00 - [23] Originally by: Amargan Nagil weirda you are just plain silly-the typhoon doesnt have the powergrid for 4 1200 mm's and 4 siege launchers-thats why we are going with 4 dual 650's on it-because they spit out the ammo!-and dont cost but half of what a 1200 mm long ranger does on the powergrid-we are using cruise missiles for our long range-not artillery :) so we are using the phoon here to smash them up close with auto cannons and drones-the 10% range bonuse might even allow for auto cannons with up to 25km range! so we will let the frigates come close-and just pummel the BS's with cruise launchers from 60 km or so! Its hurting my eyes, please format before posting. Weirda's setup use 1200 + cruise launchers. where do you get the seige launcher idea from. and I too when situation call for long range. I use 1200/1400 accompany with heavy launchers and 1 large shield booster. 7 gyro2 give such nice ROF
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.24 01:04:00 - [24] xiao-thirfir called the cruise launchers-siege launchers as well-it is just like it says -siege launchers-look them up on the market in game-they fire the cruise missiles! SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Weirda	Posted - 2005.05.24 02:41:00 - [25] Edited by: Weirda on 24/05/2005 02:42:25 Originally by: Amargan Nagil weirda you are just plain silly-the typhoon doesnt have the powergrid for 4 1200 mm's and 4 siege launchers-thats why we are going with 4 dual 650's on it-because they spit out the ammo!-and dont cost but half of what a 1200 mm long ranger does on the powergrid-we are using cruise missiles for our long range-not artillery :) so we are using the phoon here to smash them up close with auto cannons and drones-the 10% range bonuse might even allow for auto cannons with up to 25km range! so we will let the frigates come close-and just pummel the BS's with cruise launchers from 60 km or so! Well - you're wrong. First off, was talking about Cruise Launcher (not Siege), but you can actually fit siege with all of the spare grid that you get from PDUs (to power the shield tank) - just don't like how limiting it is toward anything else. Weirda is not saying that this is the BEST setup, just saying, that once it's all fit, and you look at the grid/cpu/ranges/everything else, you realize that it IS the setup that was in mind for the ship when it was designed. It's not BAD (there are better) - and you can hit pretty far out with even EMP in those 1200s with good skills. Anyhow - don't be so sold on your setup. The speed that you gain is still crap, and you will be able to barely run that shield long enough to align for warp. Short range shield tank is pretty much an oxymoron (unless raven/scorp). Have DEFINATLEY tried it (to see how many damage mods could go in the lows) and it was crap. -- Thread Killer <END TRANSMISSION>
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.24 02:47:00 - [26] weirda you are weird! j/k! im only talking about shield tanking everything smaller than BS's-and attacking BS's from afar with long range missiles-gotta have those overdrive injectors and an AB just to get to that range from them! but yeah you are right weirda-just giving a hard time-cant wait to try it soon myself-im starting in the BS with level 3 missions-so ill get skills over time etc... SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Weirda	Posted - 2005.05.24 03:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Amargan Nagil weirda you are weird! j/k! im only talking about shield tanking everything smaller than BS's-and attacking BS's from afar with long range missiles-gotta have those overdrive injectors and an AB just to get to that range from them! but yeah you are right weirda-just giving a hard time-cant wait to try it soon myself-im starting in the BS with level 3 missions-so ill get skills over time etc... Well - bear in mind that 3-4 cruisers + frigs lay on a hell of a lot more damage then a bs (at least NPCs)... especially since they never miss you (you are a larger target). For level 3s of course... it probably really wouldn't matter what you decided to mount. -- Thread Killer <END TRANSMISSION>
Amargan Nagil	Posted - 2005.05.24 06:43:00 - [28] anyone else have any setups to show? please do-if not i think this thread is about done :) SPACE NOOB: heh-keep checking that wallet for me! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) yeah its my bunny! all mine!
Stribog	Posted - 2005.05.24 07:12:00 - [29] Amargan, First of all, Invu.Fields EAT cap like there's no tomorrow, i would strongly suggest against them. Second of all, please, armor thank your phoon, the mid's can be used for better stuff. And thirdly, NO overdrives, fit Nanofibers. :P
Liare	Posted - 2005.05.24 07:17:00 - [30] Originally by: Stribog Amargan, First of all, Invu.Fields EAT cap like there's no tomorrow, i would strongly suggest against them. Second of all, please, armor thank your phoon, the mid's can be used for better stuff. And thirdly, NO overdrives, fit Nanofibers. :P i armortank my phoon, and while its effective i whould sell my left nut for 1k-2k powergrid more. its really nearly impossible to get decent tanking (large rep, med t2 rep) good resistances and good range out of it at the same time (1200's with just cruise launchers for backup is weak firepower wise, 1200's with a full deck of Seiges = riiight) Shieldtanking it whould of course "fix" those problems, but that will just bring a host of new problems (i smell CPU issues). one thing is for certain, if you want battleship gear on your typhoon, never leave home without a shoehorn. but hey i manage, i just dont touch my fitting without consulting our jamaican voodoo fellow to get his blessings first. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people.

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