You seem to be homogonizing ice mining, and ore mining.

And you seem to think there is a difference. It takes 30 minutes to fill a Mackinaw with ore and my fingers need to be in contact with the keyboard 5 or 6 times for less than 5 seconds.

Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?

Yes if you have one account and are sitting in high-sec then there is very little to do.

Now add alts into the mix and or try that in low-sec or null and the results completely change.

IF you want excitement find a null-sec corp and mine there.

Actually that is even worse since you have to be paying enough attention to see if someone shows up in local and can't fully AFK, but the act itself is still just as boring.

Then I guess mining isn't for you.

running 20 accounts of miners seems to increase the intensity of mining, you should give it a shot

running 20 accounts of miners seems to increase the intensity of mining, you should give it a shot

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To each there own but that is nuts.

Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?

You have to remember the agenda of all the people "against afk mining". Its not to stop afk mining, its to remove it from the game entirely, and replace it with some other way of getting minerals. But they cannot come right out and say that. But they have noticed that mining is a semi-afk activity, and if the players were forced to not be semi-afk they would mostly stop doing it. The resulting disruption to the game would force CCP to add new, non-mining mineral sources.

Unfortunately for these folks, CCP seems to be moving the other way. The mining profession has been augmented with both a reduction in mineral sources from other activities and with better mining ships.

The result is miners continue to mine while chatting, reading, watching TV and so on, and CCP will say "working as intended".

Unfortunately for these folks, CCP seems to be moving the other way. The mining profession has been augmented with both a reduction in mineral sources from other activities and with better mining ships.

The result is miners continue to mine while chatting, reading, watching TV and so on, and CCP will say "working as intended".

When I dabbled in it, when done as a fleet operation stuff pops pretty fast (if not ice), you're swapping targets/repositioning a fair bit. It's relatively engaging - certainly compared to the other "non-combat" activities (trading and so forth).

Don't get me wrong, it's certainly no adrenaline rush, but who am I to judge what other people find rewarding/relaxing?

the depressing thing is if you mine normal ores strategically (outside of low/null) you can infact mine 90% of a belt without ever having to move a ship provided you have strong (for high sec) mining boosts. But the state of most belts definately makes the retargeting and refiring of lasers a very constant thing

Your sitting there, watching lasers turn as you mine a roid. Oh the occasional rat will come, but you get to see your drones circle & kill it within 10 seconds. Some action right? Super exiting isn't it? It's god dam torture, and unless it was more interactive/ required player input (for the mining itself), people will continue to go afk while mining.

I would in fact think CCP is pretty happy with the AFK mining. Also, much less miner ganking, always plus.

Now, freighters ...

ya given that they went the opposite direction with mining a few ago. Buffing ehp instead of buffing gankers
now 450,000 accounts.
Being a miner I see a connection lol