Two people didn't read the linked article before posting.

Two people didn't read the linked article before posting.

No its not.
I see plenty of people trying to solo the fleets Im in.
They make such a valiant attempt at death.

Solo PVP requires thought (gasp!) patience (double gasp!) and dedication (what does that even mean?!).

its an MMO

if you want solo pvp. take it to the arena.

its an MMO

if you want solo pvp. take it to the arena.

Me outwitting a group is the biggest rush there is.

Me outwitting a group is the biggest rush there is.

This.

Solo pvp has been dead for an extremely long time now. As amazing as those kills are, I'm not going to say solo pvp is fine because some idiots derped some black ops ships on a cruiser taking gate guns.

Most impressive pvp results are either due to planning or to the enemy derping in some extremely stupid fashion.

I used to think low of my pvp abilities because I felt that most of my kills were due to the enemies being ****-fit or making obvious mistakes. How can you be proud after winning that sort of fight?

Then I started watching solo pvp videos from people who know what they are doing - and realized that the only reason they can get away with seemingly impossible stunts is not because of their own god-like skills but because their enemies derp all the time.

What is "seemingly impossible" is usually impossible if your enemy doesn't make mistakes - whether your name is John Doe or Garmon.

The "trick" to solo pvp is to gamble on your enemies derping frequently while trying to make few mistakes of your own.

Most impressive pvp results are either due to planning or to the enemy derping in some extremely stupid fashion.

I used to think low of my pvp abilities because I felt that most of my kills were due to the enemies being ****-fit or making obvious mistakes. How can you be proud after winning that sort of fight?

Then I started watching solo pvp videos from people who know what they are doing - and realized that the only reason they can get away with seemingly impossible stunts is not because of their own god-like skills but because their enemies derp all the time.

What is "seemingly impossible" is usually impossible if your enemy doesn't make mistakes - whether your name is John Doe or Garmon.

The "trick" to solo pvp is to gamble on your enemies derping frequently while trying to make few mistakes of your own.

When people say they want to solo pve, everyone points out this is a MMO.

Dear god. Not this thread again...

Solo PVP is not dead. You just need to know how to do it.

You can't expect to log in, undock, and find an afk Navy Issue in the top belt. You must actually put in some leg work. Rather than sitting on gates in massive blobs you must find the target best suited for your current fit. Or just shoot at everything like I do.



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Not even going to read a stupid article about something EVE was never intended for.

As for the OP. Solo doesn't involve links and remote reps which this pilot uses. What was the point of this thread?

Remote reps would explain his extraordinary luck. Did Jester misreport this fight?

Jester even says so himself.

Nice write-up.

Also, quite funny how the vast majority of repliers completely misses the point.

Picking your targets is the most important thing. Anyone saying solo PVP is dead should probably watch a Kovorix video or something. I had the pleasure of getting my ass kicked by him once (Right when ASB's were introduced) and I ended up dropping a hotdrop gang on him to find his fit (I'm bad at reading patch notes).

pvp in eve

watch ms paint lasers

ship explodes

you pressed 1 button


pretty sweet

Definition of solo PvP?

A player who wants gentlemanly agreed upon one-on-one?

Or is it a player who wants to be able to sneak upon unsuspecting victims, hit them quickly then run off before his buddies show up?

The former is a matter of trust (heard something about a new feature which would allow for one on one fights, dunno what happened to it though)

The latter? Yeah, it is definitely very EVE-like...in theory. Too bad reality is something entirely different. You know, instant information being the same old issue and all.

Flying alone and taking fight as they come. Trying to outwit, out manoeuvre and outrun groups till one of them makes a mistake and then strike, repeat if possible.

Flying alone and taking fight as they come. Trying to outwit, out manoeuvre and outrun groups till one of them makes a mistake and then strike, repeat if possible.

Ah yes, that is always possible but I do also believe that there are very few of the solo PvP players who do this, no? This does require rather extensive experience after all and precise knowledge of many factors.

And then there is still the question of whether these players would want EVE to increase their odds somewhat by offering them the chance of surprise attacking enemies, even if outnumbered.

Solo, it's deader than dead

The shock, it's all in your head

Not even going to read a stupid article about something EVE was never intended for.

Solo PvP has ALWAYS been dead. This is a massive multiplayer game, always has been. Not 1v1 deathmatch, never will be.

For those of you who don't get it. MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online. Massive does not mean 2.

if solo pvp were dead i wouldn't play this awful game

Two people didn't read the linked article before posting.

It all depends on what you call Solo pvp. Running around in one ship, using one account to fight which is true solo ya thats pretty much dead. The "new solo" is two accounts one booster and one pvp ship that is much more common. And if OGB is never changed that will remain the "new solo" and for good reason.

I guess people don't solo with two falcons and 5 neutral reppers any more.

Let me fix that for you" I guess people don't run multi - accounts with two falcons and 5 neutral reppers any more". The word solo was clearly misplaced.

Didn't the legend of Garmon begin with him "soloing" all kinds of stuff off the sweat of a boosting loki?

To be fair, not everyone is lucky enough to have the Solo Channel...so quit rubbing it in.

solo pvp sucks, get over it

Not even going to read a stupid article about something EVE was never intended for.

Solo PvP has ALWAYS been dead. This is a massive multiplayer game, always has been. Not 1v1 deathmatch, never will be.

For those of you who don't get it. MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online. Massive does not mean 2.

... boring as all hell evening of shooting POS modules.

I think I remember reading this exact thread back in 2007, it's depressing how little the game and the players have changed.

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I seriously don't know what you're referring to. Something about RvB is my best guess. Do we have a "solo" channel?

When people say they want to solo pve, everyone points out this is a MMO.

Remote reps would explain his extraordinary luck. Did Jester misreport this fight?

Farjung you fools! Do you not know him?

Only people from 2003/04 would recognize Farjung's name and remember his slaved up Mega/Vindi blaster boats of doom.

It was fun flying with him during early BoB days...

Wave of mutilation was great but to call scouted and backed up bs roaming solo is a bit rich. Still impressive and at a time when the cost was significant.

Oh, and I'm sure he did plenty of solo.

Edit: edit: 2am, don't mean to sound like a hater.

Solo PVP isnt dead, it just requires a bit of thought.

Farjung back then inspired me to be a better pilot and the Vindi is still one of my favorite ships. I weep for this Eve generation and the fact they know not of him or Bellum Eternus and his Kronos of doom.

Empires are built on dull.

I'm not ranting, but rather reconsidering what I already knew to be true but maybe didn't want to admit... that I've become my mother, I mean a bitter vet...I mean that Solo is HARDER, much harder to do. And I have to ask myself, is it worth it?

HI all
Yesterday i test exact same arbi only difirence was drone damage module tech2 instead of orginal Energized Armor Layering Membrane which give small % hp armor bonus, because i notice here no big benefit form it so i swich to new drone module, which boost dps to 350 from hammerheads t2.

Results (solo pvp vs hurricane sentry on my side) not using my force recon scout, hurricane almost die ( sentry do a lot work) he agro, but he deploy ecm dornes and was impossible to dissput enemy weapons, when ecm dornes stop working he escape from my scrambler range :( and leave on hull, damn no afterburner on this copy fit...

Result 2, playing with two drakes, first drake alpha me and agro my arbi ( i was at 0 near gate) i lose whole shield and some armor, but i dont fight back i jump in, second drake (without agrro) jump to my side and agrro me and aproch my ship, i deploy drones, disputs modules that affect missile after patch :D and start tacle fight, again sentry do most job, i notice drake back up jump in form otrher side and local grow, so need use my support recon and i decloak it and web him + 160dps form minmatar force recon, drake pop, i escape battlefield while like 7 man fleet with two scimitars land on grid.

Summary this arbi in some cases may stand solo even to 600dps well skiled close range battlecruises , only in case if you got sentry or own side ( so is not a true solo), but nothing above, that fact this polit survive so long until two black ops die is miracle :) maybe he got some tank implant that boost total ehp i dont know.

Anyway solo pvp is marginal, blobs everywhere, in most cases using alt or friend help, its like must have, blob enemy or be blobed...

Nice try with the hurricane. Drakes looks like a poor target for an Arbitrator though. But are you suggesting that TD affect missiles too? I can't find it in the patch notes and in-game it is the old text about turrets only. Is it going to be changed anytime soon or was it deemed over powered?

I think i notice this change about tracking disputors - missile affect in patch notes, however im not sure about it, maybe somone mention about this in other therad and i missundersand, im read patch notes again, but i dont see this information, omw to swich to drake in game and i do real test.

Edit, well i was wrong and sorry for my bad information, i missunderstand somone patch infos, or patch infos sentence, after test in game i have to say dissputors are useless agains missiles, to avoid chaos i go edit my orginal replay.

I was laughing hard when i saw this, but i guess there isn't many solo'ers out there anymore, you take a ship you fly it and attempt to get kills, it might take you a week to get the hang of it but youll get there, sure in a blob of hmm 8 oracles with a couple logi yea youll win fights, solo pvp isn't dead like everyone says, and for everyone who thinks solo pvp includes 1v1 fights, you might get 5 kills a week if your lucky with that and then be tricked for a drake bait or something, i've went out and solo'd for geez the past 6 months now, had a good month of kills Vs. Test one month 130kills and only 26 losses 85% of them were solo, most of the time i was outnumbered at least 5:1, and whenever you actually are in fleets, do you only obey FC's orders do you actually know how to survive solo if he was to get a bluescreen or his internet bug out on him or even catch him out on his mistakes, i never run with fleets anymore, because they're too cautious and will never fight anything if theres 1 ship too many.

Nerf Arbitrator

if solo pvp were dead i wouldn't play this awful game

Solo PvP in low-sec or 0.0 is a joke. Motherships hotdropping a single t3 cruiser, is a common thing. Actually, when talking about solo PvP most people mean High Sec solo pvp. Steadilly during the latest patches CCP has extinguished the possibillity for "random" high sec solo pvp.

You got nice kill board and good statistic in general but after i study close your solo, i cant say your solo is so super, from true solo meaning , in fact i cant study every of your 780+kills form 2010, but lets talk about your last month.

Some examples.

You kill interceptor while you use, bc ferox probably alpha strike.
You kill velator a noob ship with half of empty fits while you use Talos.
You kill some pods solo while you use Talos with buble helps.
You kill some t2 frigates like manti or pve fited hawk with one mid empty slot and warp core stab fited, again in talos.
You kill a lot frigates probably alpha strike again whie using talos.
Some pve fited herons.

All kills in ec-p8r

Come on...

No offence i dont blame you for it, its my view on your case, espetialy you mention about your pvp style int this therad , you also got some more valuabe and impresiv solo kills, like vaga, tornado, but in general like 80-90% of your solo kills are like shoting poor paper targets, and while i wach your kills that you destoy larger ships here two up to 4 pilots involed.

Realy i cant say true solo exist in game when most of my targets are paper frigates or targets smaler than ship i use, or instant alpha target who stop at buble.

But.. what about FALCON ?

you should also check that rapier who actually had me webbed, brutix with his mate nailing me at structure, and many of the other ships in there, 15 pages back there was even a darkside cynabal a whole gang was after me i died ofc cause they had a dramiel(which was smoking too) and was purely outnumbered, solo pvp especially in null sec isn't easy, ive got so many friends who keep telling me their experiences were terrible down there, solo pvp is about making decisions for yourself, doesn't matter if you come out over the top, if you know what to do in a fleet battle for your own sake, if you can point out fc's faults, and assist with a battle, call targets, know what ships you can handle on your own, thats where solo comes into play, whether or not your good at it is a matter of time and practice, if it doesn't work for you then its probably not your kind of pvp, but it is my kind of pvp, and almost all of those frigates HAD me scrammed and webbed and outnumbered.

sure scrammed and webbed and outnumbered and orbited you on 500 and you killed them with a large gun :) and im the pope

although i fly around solo all the time, i always get a laugh at people in local who only have 50+ blob kills littered all over their killboards, and i smile at mine when i see last 5 pages of solo written all over it.

You are just saying solo PvP is dead because you don't know how to do it. I solo almost every night, and have a lot of fun. I win some, I lose some, but it's all good. I make no claim to be a great PvPer, I just love to solo as much as I love to run with gangs.

Solo PvP is alive and well. A few haters love to say it is dead because they suck at it and/or are afraid to try.

although i fly around solo all the time, i always get a laugh at people in local who only have 50+ blob kills littered all over their killboards, and i smile at mine when i see last 5 pages of solo written all over it.

Blobber.

although i fly around solo all the time, i always get a laugh at people in local who only have 50+ blob kills littered all over their killboards, and i smile at mine when i see last 5 pages of solo written all over it.

2v1 isn't solo PVP and you still lost at that

My favorite part of Daniel Whateley's kb is how many times I'm featured prominently on his (and his corpmates') losses.