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Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.10.07 10:57:00 -
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CCP's financial situation is well publicized. I'm guessing they are having to accept that they can't bring wod and dust to market in time and any further lost revenue in EvE would probably be a nail in the coffin with regard new investment.
Hence 'capitulation' to shore up EvE revenues and cash in on bitter vet/returning accounts once Fis changes are raged about by everyone who was just raging previously and drivinig away new custom etc.
Its all just PR. But then this is a business not a cult.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:04:00 -
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I don't care whether its true or not.
He had to come here and give us all a grovelling apology. He had to admit that he'd been utterly wrong. If any of you know what Icelanders are like then that HAD to hurt.
What it proves without any doubt is that the much-mocked "protestors" in the summer changed the course of Eve development. If there hadn't been all the rage and adverse publicity then all you'd be getting for Christmas would be some new clothes in the spacebarbie store.
We'll see what is delivered rather than whats promised. |
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:11:00 -
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Why on earth should Hilmar post such a blog, when not meaning what he-¦s saying? Simply don-¦t post, when you don-¦t mean it, as the comm will nail you when cheating.
I for one like the dev-blog, and the "new" direction CCP is heading. At least until proven wrong. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:23:00 -
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If Hilmars blog does not motivate you to continue subscribing to EVE you should stop.
Now.
Simple as that.
Seriously, if the CEO's future prospects speech, for the company which products you use, cannot motivate you to continue using the products there is something severely wrong and hypocritical on your end if you still continue to do so anyhow. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Rascal deJascal
Nova-Tek
2
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:38:00 -
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lolwhine thread.
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pipvac
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
4
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:53:00 -
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Who was it at CCP who said (paraphrasing) "It's not what they say, but what they do!"?
Quite right...
My alts will remain unsubbed, until they come through on their promises and rhetoric. We've been here before with CCP, and history has made me synical.
It all sounds fascinating. Nothing really on sov mechanics which is a worry,. But maybe the rebalancing will make that unecessary. We will see (or not).
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T-Jay Charante
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:01:00 -
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Words of a desperate man.
With the realization that EVEs last hope to attract new blood, into an 8 year old game, has been an unmitigated failure. Like it or hate it, Incarna opened the door (no pun intended) to a much wider audience. Any hope of new player retention has evaporated with yet another shift in direction, from a company that has apparently lost its way.
With so many 'triple A' MMO releases on the horizon the panic button has been firmly hit.
In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?
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H3lljump3r
Keep Calm and Make Tea
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:15:00 -
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Jason1138 wrote: So am i the bitterest of bitter vets or is that pretty much what everyone else is thinking too?
I don't often grace these forums, and certainly not General Discussion, but as a semi-casual player I really didn't care much about the whole fuss. Like any player I wanted them to fix the broken aspects of the game, but as long as they weren't breaking existing things that worked I didn't mind new useless features like fancy station environments. However I do believe that all your bitching has paid off, and Hilmar is now actually dedicated to improving the core "flying in space" mechanics, as well as continuing to evolve EVE towards his walking in stations vision.
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Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
94
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:22:00 -
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I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.
Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining. Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x??? ~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
T-Jay Charante
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:27:00 -
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Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.
Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining. Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x???
Whining about people whining doesn't make it right |
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Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
94
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:29:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:I don't understand why people are whining so much about this. Maybe this is because I only play for like 5/6 months now and actually enjoy the game I am playing. So many cynical old farts here lol. Try looking at the good things for once instead of whining every 5 seconds about everything on this forum. Just try it for once it might help.
Oh and I believe it is tradition here so to all the people that can't stop complaining. Can I has your stuff this winter pl0x??? Whining about people whining doesn't make it right
Well it worked for everybody else (Ship spinning is coming back)
Might give it a try as well ~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
297
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:35:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:
In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?
CCP don't care if you pay for your account with PLEX or cash, because, believe it or not, somebody somewhere has paid RL money for the PLEX. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
52
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Posted - 2011.10.07 12:36:00 -
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I suggest you re-read it, and then re-read it again. There is a level of honesty there that is VERY RARE for CCP.
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Mai Kusoni
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:00:00 -
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Seems to me Hilmar has has known what he was doing since the beginning.
"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say."
It was not the forum crying or CSM ('what they say') that had him change course. It was the loss of subscriptions ('what they do').
He had planned for this from the start (plan B) as shown in his above statement. No one plans a large scale change without a risk-assessment and back-out plan beforehand. The rest is damage control and PR.
Keep patting yourselves on the back.
Believe it or not, he is smarter than you want to admit.
Hilmar +1 |
T-Jay Charante
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:03:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:T-Jay Charante wrote:
In short, with numbers falling, with so many veteran players Plexing accounts and so little new player retention, where will the future monthly revenue come from to keep CCP afloat?
CCP don't care if you pay for your account with PLEX or cash, because, believe it or not, somebody somewhere has paid RL money for the PLEX.
as in past tense. My question is where will the future revenue come from. |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:34:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:Incarna opened the door (no pun intended)
Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here.. |
Des Aray
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:43:00 -
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OP, Simple solution to your whine. Unsubscribe and biomass. I'm so sick of this crap. |
Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:53:00 -
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words writen by the pr deparment stamped with his name.
that was my thoughts on reading that blog CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Des Aray
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 13:59:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:words writen by the pr deparment stamped with his name.
that was my thoughts on reading that blog
at least some attempt is being made to reconnect with the eve community. You obviously have no faith in ccp so.... unsubscribe and biomass. Bye o/
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heheheh
Phoenix Club
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 14:37:00 -
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Bitter. yes, Vet, no. |
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HaxTis
Panty Hamsters
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Posted - 2011.10.07 14:57:00 -
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really again with all these im better then the game i play posts. ill say it like this ccp has never made such a big appology to the community, the have never taken so much credit for messing up the game, they have never listened to us as much as they are right now. so yes its words but we will see what they do. so man if you dont trust them, why make a post that has been made 5000000000000000000000 times since yesterday. grow up or gtfo really stop forum warrioring and grow a pair and wait to see what happens. these whole lets go to the forums to whine is really old. and all you cry babies here just need to buy a sack or chop the small ones off you claim to have because you act more like women with all these posts then you act like men. GROW UP |
Zixie Draco
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:11:00 -
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HaxTis wrote:really again with all these im better then the game i play posts. ill say it like this ccp has never made such a big appology to the community, the have never taken so much credit for messing up the game, they have never listened to us as much as they are right now. so yes its words but we will see what they do. so man if you dont trust them, why make a post that has been made 5000000000000000000000 times since yesterday. grow up or gtfo really stop forum warrioring and grow a pair and wait to see what happens. these whole lets go to the forums to whine is really old. and all you cry babies here just need to buy a sack or chop the small ones off you claim to have because you act more like women with all these posts then you act like men. GROW UP
...now THIS is funny.. Best post of the day award right here.
Would you like a kitten? |
Inari Kobayashi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:27:00 -
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HaxTis wrote:really again with all these im better then the game i play posts. ill say it like this ccp has never made such a big appology to the community, the have never taken so much credit for messing up the game, they have never listened to us as much as they are right now. so yes its words but we will see what they do. so man if you dont trust them, why make a post that has been made 5000000000000000000000 times since yesterday. grow up or gtfo really stop forum warrioring and grow a pair and wait to see what happens. these whole lets go to the forums to whine is really old. and all you cry babies here just need to buy a sack or chop the small ones off you claim to have because you act more like women with all these posts then you act like men. GROW UP
+1 |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:38:00 -
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Like i wrote there blog "sounds" nice and i like what hi wrote about refocusing,so i can stop trolling all and everything CCP for a few and wait to see results. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:50:00 -
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To everyone that is "unsubbing" their accounts, I have just one question for you:
Can I have your stuff? Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:53:00 -
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bitter vet syndrome is a serious illness that mainly affects older (pre-Apocryphia) players
symptoms include:
constant referring to the old days of eve online.
constant whining about nerfs both new and old.
inflated egos
constant threatening to quit eve online yet don't
known treatments for terminally ill bitter vets
cancelling subs
selling characters
known treatments for bitter vets diagnosed early
adapting to change |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:54:00 -
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i believe him.
I may even start logging in again instead of haunting the forums when I have nothing else better to do.
CSM 4 Alt2, CSM5 Alt1 / Rage Quit, CSM6 Fail Candidate Hasbeen Ragequitting Creator of New Edens Largest Non-Profit Events
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 16:44:00 -
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You should be able to tell by the devblogs that come henceforth. When something like this happens in a large company and they get back on track for real... people in the company are excited with the 'new' direction and should be spewing with enthusiasm that EvE is headed where it should be.
If it was lipservice this winter expansion will dwindle on into late 2012 and the employees will lose focus and forget the feelings they felt when reading his apology this week.
My bet is that its genuine but I'm not sure they can deliver on everything they've said '**** it' to for the last few years which is basically everything on the winter expansion list. There was a reason you didn't do that stuff to begin with, now suddenly you can balance hybrids and come out with new tech II modules by winter... doubt it. |
Revajin
15 Minute Outliers Chained Reactions
12
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Posted - 2011.10.07 17:19:00 -
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I don't really have an opinion about the apology because I'm a rational adult and this is a videogame. The fact that a developer even had to apologize to the community is laughable to me and just shows how immature you all really are. If this game stopped being fun for me I would simply un-sub and stop playing without a word. Not go on the forums and cry about it like a child until the developer apologizes and then debate endlessly with the other children whether the apology was sincere. |
Bane Necran
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Posted - 2011.10.07 17:21:00 -
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Revajin wrote:I don't really have an opinion about the apology because I'm a rational adult and this is a videogame. The fact that a developer even had to apologize to the community is laughable to me and just shows how immature you all really are. If this game stopped being fun for me I would simply un-sub and stop playing without a word. Not go on the forums and cry about it like a child until the developer apologizes and then debate endlessly with the other children whether the apology was sincere.
I like the cut of your jib. |
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