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Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:28:00 -
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As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above. |
Skorpynekomimi
276
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:33:00 -
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1. I haven't.
2. My corp has low/null interests.
3. Looking back, I was right not to. Lowsec tends to be troublesome, and nullsec is fine until a big alliance decides to snatch the entire region.
4. Find a big alliance and kowtow. Smaller ones have no chance. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
226
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:34:00 -
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1) Within a couple of weeks of starting playing when I was doing missions and didn't know any better at the time.
2) I did it alone, as I said, was running courier missions for the most part. Would rat some too in my Thrasher at the time.
3) Too soon, lol. I died very quickly from a prat on a gate. Almost quit Eve over it because it was basically all I had at the time.
4)Just be vigilant, keep an eye out, use the directional scanner, watch local and so on. Also, best to go with friends that can help you if you get into trouble until you get comfortable and skilled enough to do it alone.
( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:41:00 -
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Six months
Joined existing null corp
Not too soon
Find a Corp with people you like and have a similar play style, interests, and time zone. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2329
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:41:00 -
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1. I think 2 weeks or so.
2. I went alone. After a while I got blown up. Got back to hi sec, started searching for a PvP corp on the corps recruitment forums, joined them, went back in low sec with them.
3. The earlier you go the better. Much less to lose, both in implants, cheap ships and... less e-honor butt-hurting. These days it might be wise to try RvB and Agony Empire first.
4. Don't believe at what you read on the forums. Join a small scale, very active corporation. Don't be a cog, a sheep, a solo gate camper as sooner or later you'll get bit or it'll turn boring to tears.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3177
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:42:00 -
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1. The first time I moved to null/lowsec I was about a month old.
2. I joined an established corp.
3. It was the right time. Not because I had a specific level of skillpoints or EVE gaming experience, but because I had an interest in it and was willing to give it a go. What it really takes is the willingness to give it a serious try. Allies will help, but you've got to learn a lot on your own and the only way to learn them is to go there and start doing them.
4. Have or make friends and/or corp mates. You don't strictly speaking need them, but without them you're a single guy in a sea of hostiles who have friends/corpmates. Having your own allies opens up a lot of options and possibilies for you. More so if you're a relatively new player, since your character doesn't have a wide selection of skills and you as a player have a lot to learn about the game. |
Chal82
Capital Gents
Persona Non Gratis
5
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:45:00 -
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1; Moved to low within 5 months, null within 9 months.
2: Moved with a corp, a segment of us decide to live in lowsec for easy null ops with a friendly corp.
3: Should have moved after a month
4: Be paranoid, every neut is out to kill you, so don't let them get the first shot off. |
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
20
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:46:00 -
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1. It took me two weeks.
2. The only reason why it only took two weeks is because I joined an awesome corp and it was 2006 when low/null sec were a bit more exciting and the power blocs were not as strong as they are now.
3. No the move quickly advanced my game knowledge not only from a mechanics standpoint, but also by learning on the fly from my corp mates.
4. Any advice at this point would be out dated from my experience, but I would think if you trained up for a BC and were not a complete tool you could get into a null sec corp pretty quickly. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
832
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:47:00 -
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2 months, been bored sheetless ever since! 
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came second and won a toaster. |
Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots
legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
404
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:53:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
2 weeks, used a destroyer to salvage then after my skills grew I started doing easy sites and stuff. |
Dr No Game
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:02:00 -
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~4 weeks in HiSec before I joined Dreddit. Loving Null, I have already lost many ships :D |
Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:27:00 -
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Oh, I just realized I probably wasn't too clear in my OP. I'm looking for people who basically sold their house in hi-sec and moved with their family into low/null, not those who packed their bags for a short vacation in low/null.
But I guess talking about your experiences with the latter is fine I guess. I too went for a short experiment in low-sec, got blown up, then got podded after refusing to pay a ransom for something like 50mil when I was just a few days old. My advice for people here would be: there's a test server, you can run your "I wonder if this will get my ship blown up" tests there.  |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
287
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:27:00 -
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I started playing Eve under influence of Tuskers' blogs so I knew from very beginning lowsec is where I wanna be. First ship I lost in low I think within first month, maybe 3rd week in game. Got back to low more times, always wanting more of it. Finally 4th month I joined R1FTA. I don't think it was too late or too soon, I wanted to be in lowsec and I found a bunch of misfits that I really enjoy talking to and fly with (or rather without since solo is my preferred way of dying).
My advice: do what you wanna to do and where you want to do it and don't let anybody to dictate how you suppose to play game you pay for.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
289
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:30:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Two months.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Invited into ok corp, it was nice and easy.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
It was perfect timing - most likely I wouldn't do that later.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
If you won't find it interesting during first month - don't waste your time there, you can always return later with better set of skills, more assets, better knowledge of the game (i.e. it may be more enjoyable later) |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians
Tribal Band
183
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:37:00 -
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1. 5 months into the game
2. My entire alliance moved to null in one go, as CCP borked war decs so staying in high sec was impractical for a group of our size
3. I wish I'd moved there sooner. All that time wasted as a missionbear... I was on the verge of quitting Eve through boredom when we moved, no one had told me how fun Eve could be out in null.
4. Always have local open on a seperate tab. Sounds basic, but you'd be surprised how many people new to null ignore this advice.
I would also strongly consider joining an established group out in null that is new player friendly, or be part of a decent sized group that is making the move together. The obvious choices would be any of the many newbie-friendly CFC or HBC alliances, but many other groups are beginning to realise that having high SP requirements is counter productive elistism, and you will find corps in the NC./Nulli bloc at least that will take new players.
I would also recommend doing 4 weeks or so of focused training first, just to get the basics covered, before making the move. Don't plug in expensive implants, as the easiest way to reach deep null is by podex. Aim to be able to fly a doctrine and/or ratting BC before making the move, focus on getting lots of useful skills to level 3/4 rather than a small handful to level 5 - you can add the last few levels later.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers."
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
Isabelle Dmitri
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:40:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I went to null after 2 or 3 months, as far as I can remember, back in 2009 though.
I went to lowsec after maybe 6 months
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Did it alone, joined a non-established null corp in NPC null that failcascaded quickly and I left a couple months later
Tried to join a lowsec corp afterwards but got ganked by corpmates as soon as I joined - Never again.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
No idea. It was the wrong time, that's for sure.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Expect to be disappointed.
Sov null is truly **** and you will be treated like ****. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
793
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:46:00 -
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first 3 questions requires a long answer but my first entry into low sec was on my first character when he just barely could manage to fly a awefully bad fitted pve drake and got promptly destroyed and podded ,,, ooh the ambarrssment
I love all aspects of this game and the last 5 months in null sec been a thrill ; i ve learned more about pvp in the last 5 months than in the first 3 years of playing and i still don't claim to be good
advice always keep a eye on local and the intell channel , help to defend and fight for your space, and if your FC is any good listen to him he knows the game better than you
if the alliance calls for a ops with those and those doctrine ships , show up in one or if you can't fly them show up in a fast tackler they are always welcome , while you train up the neccessary skills and don't be afraid of losing ships a good alliance /corp takes good care of its members
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
154
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:48:00 -
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1. I think I played in hisec for a few months (3-4) with occasional daytrips into lowsec. After the first few months I visited lowsec more and more, up to the point I spent entire sessions in low. We still keep an office in hisec, as it simply offers a market absent in lowsec, and an L4 mission is good content to just socialize. I didn't exactly rush off into low / null in my first weeks, as I didn't know a single soul in this game and had to learn myself everything by personal experience. So I set out to improve my own game first, and started making friends ingame.
2. As a corp. At the time we moved there our corp was kind of down on active members. I talked an Alliance into +5-ing us for PI purposes and recruited lots of fresh blood. Using good PI tax rates and some training advice to fatten their wallets, I managed to retain enough of the right kind of people to grow into a more serious corp that could at least hold and defend a single moon. So we started as a very small group of lone wolves and grew a lot after carving out an initial home for ourselves.
3. EXACTLY the right time. The first newbie I recruited at that time is now one hell of a market player / POS manager. His entry into the corp was the spark that we needed at that very time. I also got lucky recruiting a few people with strong pvp interests shortly thereafter.
4. Never give in to demands, but give generously to those that help you. Play like you want to play, screw everyone who disagrees with your playstyle. Never believe something "cannot be done" because some vet says so, breaching consensus is part of the challenge, part of the fun. Refuse to use alts, you'll have more fun in low/null with a good main and it's reputation.
4.5. For lowsec: pvp there untill you know EXACTLY how agression rules work. I've seen experienced nullbears get blapped for billions of ISK by players or CONCORD because their knowledge on the subject was severely lacking, and they got outplayed by lowsec denizens. Always post a GF or GG in local, even if you got blapped. Piracy and etiquette are not mutually exclusive. Above all: HAVE FUN. Go do something else if you are not. |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises
Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:52:00 -
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My story, the abridged version:
I was playing for a week, I think, by myself...and then I decided to go to the recruiting channel to join a corp. I joined this corp, a nullsec corp, and went off to Omist and never looked back. I moved around nullsec a few times, changed corps a few times, did some really cool stuff and eventually ended up right back in the first corp I joined...and I'm very happy. :3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3 |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
61
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Posted - 2012.12.19 18:58:00 -
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afta 3 days i moved to lo-sec
afta 3 weeks i was in null sec
stayed null for around 3+ years got bord of being just a number in a blob joined roaming 0.0 pvp corp for bit left null to go back to losec went back for short while with some allince afta few days remberd why i left and returned to losec never looked back
my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
Mildew Wolf
52
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:14:00 -
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i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3177
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:16:00 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve.
 An old man with a decent set of breasts. Now i've seen it all. |
Temmu Guerra
Genco
Fatal Ascension
93
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:20:00 -
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Spent about 6 months in a highsec mission running corp, joined a 0.0 corp in CVA and have never looked back at leaving null =) |
Megnamon
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
29
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:43:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? about a year to move to low full time.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? I started by scouting low sec areas, decided on an area, than scouted corps that I wanted to join. Joined in with my corp of choice and moved all my goodies.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? Waited too long. After moving to low, I have realized I never want to live in high sec again (for PVP or PVE). Even PVE is better in Low sec because of the increased risk. While there is not that much more reward, it certainly adds a level of excitement that is lacking in high sec.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null? Scout out and area and/or corp first. Finding the right corp is huge in moving out of high sec!
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
261
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:13:00 -
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After 2 months I moved to 0.0.
I could fly a noctis and a myrm ( bad but enough to kill rats).
Stayed there for 6 months and went back to empire...
That was when I discovered the beauties of lowsec...I do not plan to leave it any time soon.
"Also, your boobs " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Fasturian Icildentirf
T.N.T ORE Industry
The Irukandji
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:15:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I moved within the first couple weeks to the wilds of lowsec near Murethand.
Later after some time in high sec I moved to null sec and then back to high sec and then a wormhole and then high sec.
Now happily living in nullsec.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
The times I have moved to low and null have either been to join a corp or as part of a corp moving to null.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
I moved at a good time and even fondly remember the time I got trapped and killed in Abune by war targets back when it was a dead end system.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Find yourself a corp and alliance that you enjoy being part of. |
Varius Xeral
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:16:00 -
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Megnamon wrote:Scout out and area and/or corp first. Finding the right corp is huge in moving out of high sec!
Really can't stress this enough. So many permanent hisec people have some horror story about how terrible it is because they were in this one corp and some people were mean to them. I've been in and out of numerous groups doing a variety of things in New Eden. Corps and alliances come and go, but the friends and connections you make last forever. I currently have five different groups of friends each doing wildly different things across the game that I could join at a moment's notice, so I am never bored or lacking direction.
I know meeting people is terrible which is why you play MMOs in the first place, but it's just your terrible personality you have to worry about in Eve, and that can be fixed with some trial and error. Your ugly face isn't a hindrance to you here.
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Dervinus
Sniggwaffe
125
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:18:00 -
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I moved to Null after 2 months of sitting docked in highsec as a part of Eve Uni. I had a Drake, 20million isk, and 4 million SP. I joined a small, growing corp that was part of an emerging alliance. Getting in early helped me develop and grow as the corp did, before I eventually went bitter vet and moved on. Its never to early to head to null, it just takes a good attitude and the ability to find something you enjoy doing (for me it was pvp).
o7 toonies |
Battle On
Jita Exiles
Strategic Warfare Operations Command
91
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:16:00 -
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8 months, however when i joined eve, i went into w-space on my 3rd week in and been there till i went to null ;-)
[Service] Battle On's Custom and Colored Overviews! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
C.L.O.N.E.
800
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:31:00 -
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My first null experience was 2008 in a russian alliance. I didn't last long for many reasons.
I then went back later in 2008 and joined BRUCE, then 3 months later they got curb stomped by goons.
I did some hi sec pvp and got into the faction wars thing for a while, then I experimented with some more alliances that aren't notable. I settled in Caldari FW for a long time. I began FCing in the caldari militia because we had a lot of drama and a low entry barrier
Then in 2011 I got into Wayfarer Stellar which was a member of the NC (the goon NC) and then the NC fail cascaded. I took an 8 month break after joining Wildly Inappropriate.
I got back for crucible and joined a young startup alliance Nightsong Directorate which made me their head FC about 24 hours later. I built the alliance's pvp infrastructure from the ground up and dealt with the internal drama. We were kicking ass for a few months with shield battleship (raven and maelstrom) blobs and drake gangs but then DnD started dropping us with fleets of armor Tech 3s with a crapload of guardians and we hit a wall with that.
I was in the process of retooling the alliance to do a Tengu fleet when we failcascaded due to more internal drama than an entire run of most soap operas.
And now I am a -9 point something pirate who lives in Esesier and does roams on the weekends to blow random faction wars people up.
All in all good times.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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