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Roime
Shiva Furnace
1436
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:36:00 -
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1. I moved to lowsec after about 6 weeks, into w-space after 3 months (couldn't get in a corp earlier) 2. I went to lowsec with my alt, then joined a small wh corp 3. I wish I had moved out of hisec earlier, what a waste of time 4. Just do it :)
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
845
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:38:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Mildew Wolf wrote:i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve. An old man with a decent set of breasts. Now i've seen it all.
Cannot be unseen... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Professional Forum Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:39:00 -
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Been there, Done that, Left for more fun |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
94
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:40:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Almost immediately. I joined EvE Uni and screamed across teamspeak the first time I was chased by pirates in low sec. I did it without bookmarks and it was before warp to zero. I just wanted to see what low sec courier missions were like, and they paid really well at the time. I failed at least 1 out of 3 missions, and most of those agents still have me at a negative:D
We moved to null shortly thereafter as part of Big Blue.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I was by myself, but part of a corp that gave advice. Then we went to null and the real learning began:)
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Perfect. Clones were cheap, frigates were plentiful.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Don't do it solo, unless you like to giggle. If you are going to live there, and not just the occasional roam, join a group. Make sure they either protect you while you earn the cash for new ships, or provide them as free replacements- otherwise you'll always be broke and using a high sec alt for mining or missioning to make isk.
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |
Daimon Kaiera
20
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:28:00 -
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1. 1 month - Null Any other question: I don't know, I started the move 30 minutes ago. µû¦püùpüäpéópââpâùpâçpâ+pâêpüïpéëpü«µé¬sÅúpüîsç¦püªpüÅpéïs¦ªpü½S+¦pü½1ISKpéÆpüÅpéîpéîpü¦Tçæµîüpüípü«s¡ÿs£¿pü+ sñ¬tïù100sŦS+ÑS+èpéÆF¦+püêpéïpÇé |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
332
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:36:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote: 1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Less than my trial account on my main. To be fair, it was my 3rd trial over a couple of months: - First 15 days I learned the basics and took my last 1-2 days in a kestrel to venture inside lowsec. - Second attempt had me going a bit more focused, was able to join a highsec corp but sadly did not sub just yet. - 3rd attempt I "knew" what I was doing, managed to subscribe/fly a Caracal. Had read somewhere mission rewards were better in lower security systems, so I found the highest level 1-2 agents for Caldari Navy in lowsec and moved there. Lots of people called me insane, I did not understand why until I experienced my first few gate camps 2-3 months later. By then it was already too late, was part of a lowsec pirate corp and learned the ropes from them about survival and hunting.
Chelly Tau wrote: 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Initially it was alone, towards the end of my 3rd trial I looked at the offices where I was docked in lowsec and applied to 2-3 corps which had interesting corp descriptions. One responded positively, albeit a bit suspicious. From my experience, most lowsec corps are quite new-player-friendly since they know they can still mold you into a great pilot as you do not come with a baggage of misconceptions - all you gotta do is show them your are ready to learn and willing to stay subscribed. 2-3 months down the road you are flying a T2 BC able to hold your ground in lowsec PVP + complete missions/plexes.
Chelly Tau wrote: 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Good question. I always say I moved just fast enough. Had I stayed longer in highsec, I might have been molded in a more cautious player.
Chelly Tau wrote: 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Learn to use the 360 scanner, it's like a second overview that is 14 au-wide. I use it everywhere, even in highsec. The 360 scanner is 50%+ of the intel. Make friends; by being friendly with the locals, you might gain access to their corp or their public channels. If you legitimately ask for help, be prepared to lose a few ships (keep in mind your reaction to those losses is key). You will also find potential friends are not the bigger established pirate corps; they will usually be the smaller fish who also have something to gain by helping you. In time, you can earn the respect of your enemies as well. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
47
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:49:00 -
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1. A month. Low 2. I joined a Pirate corp. Fun time ensued 3. The right time. Had a blast. 4. You are not your ship. Don't be afraid to lose it. If you don't have a fat wallet, fly cheap Frigates/Cruisers. They can do quite a bit of damage.
God damn It why did I Biomass that character. (Never log in drunk, start drinking after logging in) |
Moonaura
The Dead Rabbit Society
182
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:52:00 -
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Lowsec IMHO is more interesting, easier and more fun.
An easy first step is Faction Warfare. We are recruiting talented pilots for small fleet, high quality PvP
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175061 |
Cameron Cahill
Dissonance Corp Unclaimed.
121
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:59:00 -
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Two weeks into the game I joined an existing corp and have been flying with the same people (at least a few of them) ever since. I wouldn't have lasted long in the game had I not left high sec so the move was the best thing I could have done. The best advice I can give you is to find a group of people you like, who do something(s) that you enjoy and that will keep you happy and occupied during the boring stretches of this terrible terrible game we all love. |
ISVRaDa
Iberians Iberians.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:16:00 -
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Greetings o/
1. 3 months in HS + 5 months doing pvp in null but living in HS. Now living in null most of my time. 2. Joined an established corp, null npc. 3. I moved at the right time. Experienced before solo and small gang pvp. 4. If you are looking for a big change and a new adventure, go for it! You can go back if you like move around all sec-systems in EVE. it-¦s just about "moments" and depends on what you are looking for. I did for just one reason; pvp.
If you are looking for pvp and want feel like a free soul...;
Null npc & low > null sov Small-solo gangs > fleet battles
My two cents , it-¦s just my opinion. Immortality is only a word. All that exists can die. Every living thing has a weapon against which it has no defense. Time. Disease. Iron. Guilt.
-+ What can change the nature of a man ? |
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2403
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:25:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote: 1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1. I was in low sec doing plexes on my first day. I moved to null sec in under a month, I think. 2. I moved to null sec with 2 corp mates, but was mostly alone for it. "Hey, move here". 3. It was fine 4. In null sec, join a Blobs McBlobber alliance and do the Blobs McBlobber stuff. In low sec, use your D-Scan. Anyone in local *IS* actually there to kill you.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
217
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:40:00 -
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In order
1. About 6-8 months 2. Corp decided to move from mission running to trying out NPC nullsec 3. I think i personally could have done it a lot earlier but i was happy with what i was doing at the time, overall it was a lot of fun and we learned a lot about pvp. Eventually led to us trying out piracy and the rest is history.
4. Lowsec first Dont be afraid but do keep your wits about you. Do your research and find out who lives in the local area and what they do. Only you can decide if you're ready to make the move, dont let anyone else put you off by claiming you arent ready. Talk to people you meet who already live there, quite a lot of us are actually nice guys who'll give you good advice, of course we might blow you up first but hey, thats Eve.
Nullsec Everything above plus try to make sure you have a plan to get your **** out if something goes wrong. |
terzho
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
37
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:12:00 -
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1. Started the game, 2 weeks later moved to null 2. My CEO helped me. 3. It worked out pretty well for me. 4. Find a friend. This game is terrible if you're by yourself. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes Test Friends Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:41:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote: 1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
1. On my tenth day of play I went to 0.0
2. I joined a corp where a friend of mine who helped me finally start EVE properly was. He is still an amazing person and also plays to this day. We joined a small corp with great aspirations - the usual ones in that they wanted to 'own' their own space. Many of the the people that I met in that corp are still my friends both in the game and out of it.
3. I feel that I wasted a day before going to 0.0 but I think it was a busy RL day so I didn't manage to get down there on day 9.
4. Go. Just go. Ignore anyone who claims you need to have X skill points or Y time played. You don't. The only thing I would suggest is completing the tutorials so you have a good idea on how to play and head on out. Find a small corp with cool people and get going.
Going to 0.0 was the best decision ever.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
15
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:52:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
About 3 months
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I joined a corp. That corp was part of an alliance. I understood very little of all that at the time.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Meh - about right.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Do it. You can't learn to live there from the forums. You don't have to pick the "right" group to join first, just get out there. Once you learn to survive in Null you can define your own path. |
Ayuren Aakiwa
Wyvern Operations
35
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:23:00 -
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Took about 3-4 months I think, and I did it the old fashioned way by going into lowsec in a rifter and dying horribly. I've upgraded from the rifter but still die horribly pew pew 24/7 |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
248
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:33:00 -
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My case is the exception, not the rule and doesn't even apply now. I started back in 2005 and EVE was a different game then. The 20K server load was a record. Null space really was empty.
I also got a Daredevil BPC in my first week of EVE and I built it, got the skills to fly it and did. Daredevil frigates are super fast to warp and pretty much impossible to catch. They were then and they still are if you are flying evasive. Because of that Daredevil I was in Low sec in the first week and I lived there for 2 years. I "sucked" at EVE for those two years but I had a lot more fun "sucking" at EVE than I ever had playing the epeen war I am forced to play now that being a noob isn't an option. Again because of the different EVE I don't know if someone new could take a Daredevil to low sec and survive for 2 years. It's a different game.
As for Null it's a gank-a-boy game. It always has been. I just didn't know it back then. Innocence lost, never to be returned. In reading this you can say so is yours. You might chose to go there and find out for yourself but you know in the back of your mind you won't succeed there at even a minimal level without a blob bigger than the blob you compete against.
If you asking for direction, I'd suggest Red Vs Blue to start. It's PvP without the epeen, player ran and may one day evolve in to more.
If your quest is a Null empire, as said, kow tow to the blobs because you won't beat them without a bigger blob. Just the unfortunate limit the game has. Many have tried to tech out smaller alliances, many have failed. Blobs rule EVE. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1082
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Posted - 2012.12.21 04:18:00 -
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Two days in highsec, the rest of my time in null. There was a short period where Goonwaffe had a group of players following lowsec incursions around like a pack of very rich gypsies but that died out with the nerfs.
I am just now finding my pvp niche however (Small cloak gang), my computer sucked until recently so the big fleet fights usually consisted of me flying a logistics ship because by the time I locked primaries they were generally already dead, or just not going. |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
12
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Posted - 2012.12.21 06:00:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above. 1: 1 month into playing. only left low for hisec wardecs (which ended in a waste of time sans one fleet fight). its just so much more profitable down here (im not talking piracy actually with this)
2: Our corp had joined our current alliance a week after we started the move.
3: Looking back i honestly think it was the best decision i've made and our corp has made. Just at the right time for a few of our members as learning PVP from the start made us understand EVE better and how PVP will never leave the game. since i started PVPing i dont worry about losing ships as much anymore (in fact i rarely worry about ship losses).
4: If youre planning to make the move. make sure youre going to have trustworthy blues and PVP experience (or someone who can teach you). A good group of buds on teamspeak can make it that much more fun once you do. The new PVP mechanics of lowsec just make things more fast paced and fun also. I make bolder choices now that i can fly around in frigates and dessies easily. That and the Talwar is just hilariously fun!
(P.S. im talking lowsec here. not null... not hisec. But low. ya know, that forsaken land where mission running mining indie etc are worthless and a waste of time and PVP is only for pirates and FW? Yeah thats a lie... From day 1 of being down in lowsec i can make 2 to 3 times what i can in hisec. And if i need sec status or quick isk, nullsec ratting is a couple gates away). |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2012.12.21 06:04:00 -
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Low/null is like a single word these days, but people are still forgetting WHs |
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
826
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Posted - 2012.12.21 06:33:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1. About a month, maybe a little less. 2. Did it through a corp, but it wasnt an established null one. Multi-game-clan that restarted their EVE arm shortly before I joined, they did a little bit of everything with an anti-pirate arm of PVP, thus the lowsec. 3. Wouldn't have changed a thing. 4. It goes beyond getting over fear, it's understanding there's nothing to be afraid of. Find some good people to teach you and accept that you'll lose ships while you learn. Fly cheap, have fun. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
288
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Posted - 2012.12.21 06:33:00 -
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moved to 0.0 after 1 year of game joined existing corp (still have contacts with them) returned to high-sec after another 1 year and don't want to visit 0.0 again. it's too boring there |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
133
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Posted - 2012.12.21 07:48:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
When I first started to play this game, it took about 3 months before i moved into null.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I was recruited by a corporation that was in its final stages of moving.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
It felt like a natural development at the time.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Have an open mind, don't fuzz over losses. It's a learning expirience :) Nowadays you have a station in every system almost. Back when I moved down the first time, we all lived in pos's. Wich was kinda fun back then.
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Goran Konjich
Shiva Furnace
19
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:35:00 -
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None.
5 years at Dodixie -> straight to a Wormhole
(it's the same actually ) <> |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
279
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Posted - 2012.12.21 11:47:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?.
Fly something you can afford to lose...
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
72
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:50:00 -
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1. About 3-4 month into the game I went pirate, then I eventually started hiting up nullsec some months later. 2. I joined a corp in lowsec called Blood Money Inc, I flew mostly solo and still do to this day. 3. Not quick enough, I should have been out pvp'in as soon as I had my first 10million isk. 4. Dont become a mindless blobber or someone who sits on a titan all day in lowsec, small gang/solo is the way forward, learn from it.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
700
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:13:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
My progression was I think pretty Standard. I started out in the game as a mission runner (I still remember my excitement at earning enough for my 1st navy Raven after 2 months) and did that solo for a few months. Met some mission running dudes and joined their corp. 1 dude in corp had a couple friends in BoB so we went with them on a roam through null sec (my 1st pvp actioon, got on my 1st kill mail, lost my 1st Brutix), but i mostly stayed in empire running missions.
The Faction Warfare came out and i joined the 1st day, it was REALLY cool, Gallente militia had 3 full fleets out that very 1st day. Did that for a few months, joined a couple corps over that time, got bored, left gal militia for minnie milita, was going back to Gal militia when a friend in the Gal militia said "hey, we're gonna kill some carriers, join my corp for a day and you can leave tomorrow afterwards.
I ended up staying for 2 years :) . We went to Syndicate, made some friends, formed an alliance , joined with some other Alliances to make a coalition, then tried to Invade Cloud Ring, took a couple systems ran out of many and disbanded lol. My corp left the alliance we made and went to join ATLAS, then living in the Omist (ie West Bumfreak Egypt) region.
So, call it about a year of nothing but high Sec, then the past 4 years of Low and null with a bit of Wormhole here and there.
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:31:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Never. No plan to. Dealing with belligerent undesirables is not my idea of fun.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Neither. I stay in high sec and make more isk than the sociopaths in low
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
None of the above, as I have not moved.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Don't do it. High sec is all you truly need. You'll just be blobbed and pushed around by psychos in lowsec. Enjoy the civilization of high sec. Pay no mind to the undesirables screaming about fake riches out in the bad lands. |
Dgram Loop
Dutch Squad Novus Dominatum
0
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:55:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2 months after being in 3 HS corps that all failcascaded within weeks I went straight to wspace.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? A few weeks by myself in a C2 at first then I joined the rest of the corp in a C4
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? Just the right time, being able to fly a battlecruiser somewhat properly and having made an alt already i was prepared to loose some ships and semicapable of refitting for much harder anomalies
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null? The same as several other posters here, dont be afraid to try something new and dont be surprised or give up when minor setbacks happen - like my first ever trip through a transient wormhole got me ganked, welcome to wspace \o/ GÇ£It's the journey, not the destination", staying in highsec means you're likely to keep doing the same things over and over and you don't really get to explore all the facets of eve |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:28:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? 2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? 3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? 4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Answers: 1. A couple years. Of course, I was away from the game / unsubscribed for most of that time, so... In reality, about six months. I started taking joyrides through Nul to get over my fears of losing ships, getting podded, etc. Then I discovered that Space Trollin' was fun. Since then, whenever I get bored... I log in on this alt and go mess with someone's head in Nul.
2. Stillin my n00b corp. I'm doing this purely solo, so don't need the support of a corp/alliance. If you plan on doing anthing notable, *other* than Space Trollin', get a corp membership. It makes a BIG difference.
3. Should moved out into Nul a LOT sooner. I'm currently based out of the Sisters of EVE Bureau in ROIR-Y II, which serves my trolling needs well.
4. Prepare to die. Seriously. LOTS. Get over your fear of being podded - It will only hold you back. Make no enemies that you do not have to make, but 'make enemies' before and over 'not having fun.' Fun is what keeps you coming back.
Fly Crazy! S. Venator
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