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Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:28:00 -
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As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above. |
Skorpynekomimi
276
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:33:00 -
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1. I haven't.
2. My corp has low/null interests.
3. Looking back, I was right not to. Lowsec tends to be troublesome, and nullsec is fine until a big alliance decides to snatch the entire region.
4. Find a big alliance and kowtow. Smaller ones have no chance. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
226
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:34:00 -
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1) Within a couple of weeks of starting playing when I was doing missions and didn't know any better at the time.
2) I did it alone, as I said, was running courier missions for the most part. Would rat some too in my Thrasher at the time.
3) Too soon, lol. I died very quickly from a prat on a gate. Almost quit Eve over it because it was basically all I had at the time.
4)Just be vigilant, keep an eye out, use the directional scanner, watch local and so on. Also, best to go with friends that can help you if you get into trouble until you get comfortable and skilled enough to do it alone.
( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:41:00 -
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Six months
Joined existing null corp
Not too soon
Find a Corp with people you like and have a similar play style, interests, and time zone. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2329
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:41:00 -
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1. I think 2 weeks or so.
2. I went alone. After a while I got blown up. Got back to hi sec, started searching for a PvP corp on the corps recruitment forums, joined them, went back in low sec with them.
3. The earlier you go the better. Much less to lose, both in implants, cheap ships and... less e-honor butt-hurting. These days it might be wise to try RvB and Agony Empire first.
4. Don't believe at what you read on the forums. Join a small scale, very active corporation. Don't be a cog, a sheep, a solo gate camper as sooner or later you'll get bit or it'll turn boring to tears.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3177
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:42:00 -
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1. The first time I moved to null/lowsec I was about a month old.
2. I joined an established corp.
3. It was the right time. Not because I had a specific level of skillpoints or EVE gaming experience, but because I had an interest in it and was willing to give it a go. What it really takes is the willingness to give it a serious try. Allies will help, but you've got to learn a lot on your own and the only way to learn them is to go there and start doing them.
4. Have or make friends and/or corp mates. You don't strictly speaking need them, but without them you're a single guy in a sea of hostiles who have friends/corpmates. Having your own allies opens up a lot of options and possibilies for you. More so if you're a relatively new player, since your character doesn't have a wide selection of skills and you as a player have a lot to learn about the game. |
Chal82
Capital Gents
Persona Non Gratis
5
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:45:00 -
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1; Moved to low within 5 months, null within 9 months.
2: Moved with a corp, a segment of us decide to live in lowsec for easy null ops with a friendly corp.
3: Should have moved after a month
4: Be paranoid, every neut is out to kill you, so don't let them get the first shot off. |
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
20
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:46:00 -
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1. It took me two weeks.
2. The only reason why it only took two weeks is because I joined an awesome corp and it was 2006 when low/null sec were a bit more exciting and the power blocs were not as strong as they are now.
3. No the move quickly advanced my game knowledge not only from a mechanics standpoint, but also by learning on the fly from my corp mates.
4. Any advice at this point would be out dated from my experience, but I would think if you trained up for a BC and were not a complete tool you could get into a null sec corp pretty quickly. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
832
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:47:00 -
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2 months, been bored sheetless ever since! 
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came second and won a toaster. |
Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots
legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
404
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:53:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
2 weeks, used a destroyer to salvage then after my skills grew I started doing easy sites and stuff. |
Dr No Game
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:02:00 -
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~4 weeks in HiSec before I joined Dreddit. Loving Null, I have already lost many ships :D |
Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:27:00 -
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Oh, I just realized I probably wasn't too clear in my OP. I'm looking for people who basically sold their house in hi-sec and moved with their family into low/null, not those who packed their bags for a short vacation in low/null.
But I guess talking about your experiences with the latter is fine I guess. I too went for a short experiment in low-sec, got blown up, then got podded after refusing to pay a ransom for something like 50mil when I was just a few days old. My advice for people here would be: there's a test server, you can run your "I wonder if this will get my ship blown up" tests there.  |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
287
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:27:00 -
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I started playing Eve under influence of Tuskers' blogs so I knew from very beginning lowsec is where I wanna be. First ship I lost in low I think within first month, maybe 3rd week in game. Got back to low more times, always wanting more of it. Finally 4th month I joined R1FTA. I don't think it was too late or too soon, I wanted to be in lowsec and I found a bunch of misfits that I really enjoy talking to and fly with (or rather without since solo is my preferred way of dying).
My advice: do what you wanna to do and where you want to do it and don't let anybody to dictate how you suppose to play game you pay for.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
289
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:30:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Two months.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Invited into ok corp, it was nice and easy.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
It was perfect timing - most likely I wouldn't do that later.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
If you won't find it interesting during first month - don't waste your time there, you can always return later with better set of skills, more assets, better knowledge of the game (i.e. it may be more enjoyable later) |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians
Tribal Band
183
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:37:00 -
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1. 5 months into the game
2. My entire alliance moved to null in one go, as CCP borked war decs so staying in high sec was impractical for a group of our size
3. I wish I'd moved there sooner. All that time wasted as a missionbear... I was on the verge of quitting Eve through boredom when we moved, no one had told me how fun Eve could be out in null.
4. Always have local open on a seperate tab. Sounds basic, but you'd be surprised how many people new to null ignore this advice.
I would also strongly consider joining an established group out in null that is new player friendly, or be part of a decent sized group that is making the move together. The obvious choices would be any of the many newbie-friendly CFC or HBC alliances, but many other groups are beginning to realise that having high SP requirements is counter productive elistism, and you will find corps in the NC./Nulli bloc at least that will take new players.
I would also recommend doing 4 weeks or so of focused training first, just to get the basics covered, before making the move. Don't plug in expensive implants, as the easiest way to reach deep null is by podex. Aim to be able to fly a doctrine and/or ratting BC before making the move, focus on getting lots of useful skills to level 3/4 rather than a small handful to level 5 - you can add the last few levels later.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers."
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
Isabelle Dmitri
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:40:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I went to null after 2 or 3 months, as far as I can remember, back in 2009 though.
I went to lowsec after maybe 6 months
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Did it alone, joined a non-established null corp in NPC null that failcascaded quickly and I left a couple months later
Tried to join a lowsec corp afterwards but got ganked by corpmates as soon as I joined - Never again.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
No idea. It was the wrong time, that's for sure.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Expect to be disappointed.
Sov null is truly **** and you will be treated like ****. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
793
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:46:00 -
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first 3 questions requires a long answer but my first entry into low sec was on my first character when he just barely could manage to fly a awefully bad fitted pve drake and got promptly destroyed and podded ,,, ooh the ambarrssment
I love all aspects of this game and the last 5 months in null sec been a thrill ; i ve learned more about pvp in the last 5 months than in the first 3 years of playing and i still don't claim to be good
advice always keep a eye on local and the intell channel , help to defend and fight for your space, and if your FC is any good listen to him he knows the game better than you
if the alliance calls for a ops with those and those doctrine ships , show up in one or if you can't fly them show up in a fast tackler they are always welcome , while you train up the neccessary skills and don't be afraid of losing ships a good alliance /corp takes good care of its members
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
154
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:48:00 -
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1. I think I played in hisec for a few months (3-4) with occasional daytrips into lowsec. After the first few months I visited lowsec more and more, up to the point I spent entire sessions in low. We still keep an office in hisec, as it simply offers a market absent in lowsec, and an L4 mission is good content to just socialize. I didn't exactly rush off into low / null in my first weeks, as I didn't know a single soul in this game and had to learn myself everything by personal experience. So I set out to improve my own game first, and started making friends ingame.
2. As a corp. At the time we moved there our corp was kind of down on active members. I talked an Alliance into +5-ing us for PI purposes and recruited lots of fresh blood. Using good PI tax rates and some training advice to fatten their wallets, I managed to retain enough of the right kind of people to grow into a more serious corp that could at least hold and defend a single moon. So we started as a very small group of lone wolves and grew a lot after carving out an initial home for ourselves.
3. EXACTLY the right time. The first newbie I recruited at that time is now one hell of a market player / POS manager. His entry into the corp was the spark that we needed at that very time. I also got lucky recruiting a few people with strong pvp interests shortly thereafter.
4. Never give in to demands, but give generously to those that help you. Play like you want to play, screw everyone who disagrees with your playstyle. Never believe something "cannot be done" because some vet says so, breaching consensus is part of the challenge, part of the fun. Refuse to use alts, you'll have more fun in low/null with a good main and it's reputation.
4.5. For lowsec: pvp there untill you know EXACTLY how agression rules work. I've seen experienced nullbears get blapped for billions of ISK by players or CONCORD because their knowledge on the subject was severely lacking, and they got outplayed by lowsec denizens. Always post a GF or GG in local, even if you got blapped. Piracy and etiquette are not mutually exclusive. Above all: HAVE FUN. Go do something else if you are not. |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises
Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:52:00 -
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My story, the abridged version:
I was playing for a week, I think, by myself...and then I decided to go to the recruiting channel to join a corp. I joined this corp, a nullsec corp, and went off to Omist and never looked back. I moved around nullsec a few times, changed corps a few times, did some really cool stuff and eventually ended up right back in the first corp I joined...and I'm very happy. :3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3 |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
61
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Posted - 2012.12.19 18:58:00 -
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afta 3 days i moved to lo-sec
afta 3 weeks i was in null sec
stayed null for around 3+ years got bord of being just a number in a blob joined roaming 0.0 pvp corp for bit left null to go back to losec went back for short while with some allince afta few days remberd why i left and returned to losec never looked back
my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
Mildew Wolf
52
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:14:00 -
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i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3177
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:16:00 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve.
 An old man with a decent set of breasts. Now i've seen it all. |
Temmu Guerra
Genco
Fatal Ascension
93
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:20:00 -
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Spent about 6 months in a highsec mission running corp, joined a 0.0 corp in CVA and have never looked back at leaving null =) |
Megnamon
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
29
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:43:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? about a year to move to low full time.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? I started by scouting low sec areas, decided on an area, than scouted corps that I wanted to join. Joined in with my corp of choice and moved all my goodies.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? Waited too long. After moving to low, I have realized I never want to live in high sec again (for PVP or PVE). Even PVE is better in Low sec because of the increased risk. While there is not that much more reward, it certainly adds a level of excitement that is lacking in high sec.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null? Scout out and area and/or corp first. Finding the right corp is huge in moving out of high sec!
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
261
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:13:00 -
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After 2 months I moved to 0.0.
I could fly a noctis and a myrm ( bad but enough to kill rats).
Stayed there for 6 months and went back to empire...
That was when I discovered the beauties of lowsec...I do not plan to leave it any time soon.
"Also, your boobs " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Fasturian Icildentirf
T.N.T ORE Industry
The Irukandji
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:15:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I moved within the first couple weeks to the wilds of lowsec near Murethand.
Later after some time in high sec I moved to null sec and then back to high sec and then a wormhole and then high sec.
Now happily living in nullsec.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
The times I have moved to low and null have either been to join a corp or as part of a corp moving to null.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
I moved at a good time and even fondly remember the time I got trapped and killed in Abune by war targets back when it was a dead end system.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Find yourself a corp and alliance that you enjoy being part of. |
Varius Xeral
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:16:00 -
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Megnamon wrote:Scout out and area and/or corp first. Finding the right corp is huge in moving out of high sec!
Really can't stress this enough. So many permanent hisec people have some horror story about how terrible it is because they were in this one corp and some people were mean to them. I've been in and out of numerous groups doing a variety of things in New Eden. Corps and alliances come and go, but the friends and connections you make last forever. I currently have five different groups of friends each doing wildly different things across the game that I could join at a moment's notice, so I am never bored or lacking direction.
I know meeting people is terrible which is why you play MMOs in the first place, but it's just your terrible personality you have to worry about in Eve, and that can be fixed with some trial and error. Your ugly face isn't a hindrance to you here.
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Dervinus
Sniggwaffe
125
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:18:00 -
[28] - Quote
I moved to Null after 2 months of sitting docked in highsec as a part of Eve Uni. I had a Drake, 20million isk, and 4 million SP. I joined a small, growing corp that was part of an emerging alliance. Getting in early helped me develop and grow as the corp did, before I eventually went bitter vet and moved on. Its never to early to head to null, it just takes a good attitude and the ability to find something you enjoy doing (for me it was pvp).
o7 toonies |
Battle On
Jita Exiles
Strategic Warfare Operations Command
91
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:16:00 -
[29] - Quote
8 months, however when i joined eve, i went into w-space on my 3rd week in and been there till i went to null ;-)
[Service] Battle On's Custom and Colored Overviews! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
C.L.O.N.E.
800
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:31:00 -
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My first null experience was 2008 in a russian alliance. I didn't last long for many reasons.
I then went back later in 2008 and joined BRUCE, then 3 months later they got curb stomped by goons.
I did some hi sec pvp and got into the faction wars thing for a while, then I experimented with some more alliances that aren't notable. I settled in Caldari FW for a long time. I began FCing in the caldari militia because we had a lot of drama and a low entry barrier
Then in 2011 I got into Wayfarer Stellar which was a member of the NC (the goon NC) and then the NC fail cascaded. I took an 8 month break after joining Wildly Inappropriate.
I got back for crucible and joined a young startup alliance Nightsong Directorate which made me their head FC about 24 hours later. I built the alliance's pvp infrastructure from the ground up and dealt with the internal drama. We were kicking ass for a few months with shield battleship (raven and maelstrom) blobs and drake gangs but then DnD started dropping us with fleets of armor Tech 3s with a crapload of guardians and we hit a wall with that.
I was in the process of retooling the alliance to do a Tengu fleet when we failcascaded due to more internal drama than an entire run of most soap operas.
And now I am a -9 point something pirate who lives in Esesier and does roams on the weekends to blow random faction wars people up.
All in all good times.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1436
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:36:00 -
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1. I moved to lowsec after about 6 weeks, into w-space after 3 months (couldn't get in a corp earlier)
2. I went to lowsec with my alt, then joined a small wh corp
3. I wish I had moved out of hisec earlier, what a waste of time
4. Just do it :)
I tried to remove this sig. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
845
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:38:00 -
[32] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:Mildew Wolf wrote:i moved to lowsec right away. i tried null too but died to bubble camps (i didnt know what a bubble was at the time) so i mostly stuck to lowsec at first. i was alone and didnt really know anything about the game. this was one of my most fun times in eve. An old man with a decent set of breasts. Now i've seen it all.
Cannot be unseen...
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Professional Forum Alt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:39:00 -
[33] - Quote
Been there,
Done that,
Left for more fun |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
94
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:40:00 -
[34] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Almost immediately. I joined EvE Uni and screamed across teamspeak the first time I was chased by pirates in low sec. I did it without bookmarks and it was before warp to zero. I just wanted to see what low sec courier missions were like, and they paid really well at the time. I failed at least 1 out of 3 missions, and most of those agents still have me at a negative:D
We moved to null shortly thereafter as part of Big Blue.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I was by myself, but part of a corp that gave advice. Then we went to null and the real learning began:)
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Perfect. Clones were cheap, frigates were plentiful.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Don't do it solo, unless you like to giggle. If you are going to live there, and not just the occasional roam, join a group. Make sure they either protect you while you earn the cash for new ships, or provide them as free replacements- otherwise you'll always be broke and using a high sec alt for mining or missioning to make isk.
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |
Daimon Kaiera
20
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:28:00 -
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1. 1 month - Null
Any other question: I don't know, I started the move 30 minutes ago.
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
332
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:36:00 -
[36] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Less than my trial account on my main. To be fair, it was my 3rd trial over a couple of months:
- First 15 days I learned the basics and took my last 1-2 days in a kestrel to venture inside lowsec.
- Second attempt had me going a bit more focused, was able to join a highsec corp but sadly did not sub just yet.
- 3rd attempt I "knew" what I was doing, managed to subscribe/fly a Caracal. Had read somewhere mission rewards were better in lower security systems, so I found the highest level 1-2 agents for Caldari Navy in lowsec and moved there. Lots of people called me insane, I did not understand why until I experienced my first few gate camps 2-3 months later. By then it was already too late, was part of a lowsec pirate corp and learned the ropes from them about survival and hunting.
Chelly Tau wrote:
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Initially it was alone, towards the end of my 3rd trial I looked at the offices where I was docked in lowsec and applied to 2-3 corps which had interesting corp descriptions. One responded positively, albeit a bit suspicious. From my experience, most lowsec corps are quite new-player-friendly since they know they can still mold you into a great pilot as you do not come with a baggage of misconceptions - all you gotta do is show them your are ready to learn and willing to stay subscribed. 2-3 months down the road you are flying a T2 BC able to hold your ground in lowsec PVP + complete missions/plexes.
Chelly Tau wrote:
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Good question. I always say I moved just fast enough. Had I stayed longer in highsec, I might have been molded in a more cautious player.
Chelly Tau wrote:
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Learn to use the 360 scanner, it's like a second overview that is 14 au-wide. I use it everywhere, even in highsec. The 360 scanner is 50%+ of the intel. Make friends; by being friendly with the locals, you might gain access to their corp or their public channels. If you legitimately ask for help, be prepared to lose a few ships (keep in mind your reaction to those losses is key). You will also find potential friends are not the bigger established pirate corps; they will usually be the smaller fish who also have something to gain by helping you. In time, you can earn the respect of your enemies as well. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
47
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:49:00 -
[37] - Quote
1. A month. Low
2. I joined a Pirate corp. Fun time ensued
3. The right time. Had a blast.
4. You are not your ship. Don't be afraid to lose it. If you don't have a fat wallet, fly cheap Frigates/Cruisers. They can do quite a bit of damage.
God damn It why did I Biomass that character. (Never log in drunk, start drinking after logging in) |
Moonaura
The Dead Rabbit Society
182
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:52:00 -
[38] - Quote
Lowsec IMHO is more interesting, easier and more fun.
An easy first step is Faction Warfare.
We are recruiting talented pilots for small fleet, high quality PvP
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175061 |
Cameron Cahill
Dissonance Corp
Unclaimed.
121
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:59:00 -
[39] - Quote
Two weeks into the game I joined an existing corp and have been flying with the same people (at least a few of them) ever since. I wouldn't have lasted long in the game had I not left high sec so the move was the best thing I could have done. The best advice I can give you is to find a group of people you like, who do something(s) that you enjoy and that will keep you happy and occupied during the boring stretches of this terrible terrible game we all love. |
ISVRaDa
Iberians
Iberians.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:16:00 -
[40] - Quote
Greetings o/
1. 3 months in HS + 5 months doing pvp in null but living in HS. Now living in null most of my time.
2. Joined an established corp, null npc.
3. I moved at the right time. Experienced before solo and small gang pvp.
4. If you are looking for a big change and a new adventure, go for it! You can go back if you like move around all sec-systems in EVE. it-¦s just about "moments" and depends on what you are looking for. I did for just one reason; pvp.
If you are looking for pvp and want feel like a free soul...;
Null npc & low > null sov
Small-solo gangs > fleet battles
My two cents  , it-¦s just my opinion.
Immortality is only a word. All that exists can die. Every living thing has a weapon against which it has no defense. Time. Disease. Iron. Guilt.
-+ What can change the nature of a man ? |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
2403
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:25:00 -
[41] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1. I was in low sec doing plexes on my first day. I moved to null sec in under a month, I think.
2. I moved to null sec with 2 corp mates, but was mostly alone for it. "Hey, move here".
3. It was fine
4. In null sec, join a Blobs McBlobber alliance and do the Blobs McBlobber stuff. In low sec, use your D-Scan. Anyone in local *IS* actually there to kill you.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com
PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
217
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:40:00 -
[42] - Quote
In order
1. About 6-8 months
2. Corp decided to move from mission running to trying out NPC nullsec
3. I think i personally could have done it a lot earlier but i was happy with what i was doing at the time, overall it was a lot of fun and we learned a lot about pvp. Eventually led to us trying out piracy and the rest is history.
4. Lowsec first
Dont be afraid but do keep your wits about you.
Do your research and find out who lives in the local area and what they do.
Only you can decide if you're ready to make the move, dont let anyone else put you off by claiming you arent ready.
Talk to people you meet who already live there, quite a lot of us are actually nice guys who'll give you good advice, of course we might blow you up first but hey, thats Eve.
Nullsec
Everything above plus try to make sure you have a plan to get your **** out if something goes wrong. |
terzho
StarFleet Enterprises
Red Alliance
37
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:12:00 -
[43] - Quote
1. Started the game, 2 weeks later moved to null
2. My CEO helped me.
3. It worked out pretty well for me.
4. Find a friend. This game is terrible if you're by yourself. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:41:00 -
[44] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
1. On my tenth day of play I went to 0.0
2. I joined a corp where a friend of mine who helped me finally start EVE properly was. He is still an amazing person and also plays to this day. We joined a small corp with great aspirations - the usual ones in that they wanted to 'own' their own space. Many of the the people that I met in that corp are still my friends both in the game and out of it.
3. I feel that I wasted a day before going to 0.0 but I think it was a busy RL day so I didn't manage to get down there on day 9.
4. Go. Just go. Ignore anyone who claims you need to have X skill points or Y time played. You don't. The only thing I would suggest is completing the tutorials so you have a good idea on how to play and head on out. Find a small corp with cool people and get going.
Going to 0.0 was the best decision ever.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
15
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:52:00 -
[45] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
About 3 months
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I joined a corp. That corp was part of an alliance. I understood very little of all that at the time.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Meh - about right.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Do it. You can't learn to live there from the forums. You don't have to pick the "right" group to join first, just get out there. Once you learn to survive in Null you can define your own path. |
Ayuren Aakiwa
Wyvern Operations
35
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 01:23:00 -
[46] - Quote
Took about 3-4 months I think, and I did it the old fashioned way by going into lowsec in a rifter and dying horribly. I've upgraded from the rifter but still die horribly 
pew pew 24/7 |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
248
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 01:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
My case is the exception, not the rule and doesn't even apply now. I started back in 2005 and EVE was a different game then. The 20K server load was a record. Null space really was empty.
I also got a Daredevil BPC in my first week of EVE and I built it, got the skills to fly it and did. Daredevil frigates are super fast to warp and pretty much impossible to catch. They were then and they still are if you are flying evasive. Because of that Daredevil I was in Low sec in the first week and I lived there for 2 years. I "sucked" at EVE for those two years but I had a lot more fun "sucking" at EVE than I ever had playing the epeen war I am forced to play now that being a noob isn't an option. Again because of the different EVE I don't know if someone new could take a Daredevil to low sec and survive for 2 years. It's a different game.
As for Null it's a gank-a-boy game. It always has been. I just didn't know it back then. Innocence lost, never to be returned. In reading this you can say so is yours. You might chose to go there and find out for yourself but you know in the back of your mind you won't succeed there at even a minimal level without a blob bigger than the blob you compete against.
If you asking for direction, I'd suggest Red Vs Blue to start. It's PvP without the epeen, player ran and may one day evolve in to more.
If your quest is a Null empire, as said, kow tow to the blobs because you won't beat them without a bigger blob. Just the unfortunate limit the game has. Many have tried to tech out smaller alliances, many have failed. Blobs rule EVE.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1082
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 04:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
Two days in highsec, the rest of my time in null. There was a short period where Goonwaffe had a group of players following lowsec incursions around like a pack of very rich gypsies but that died out with the nerfs.
I am just now finding my pvp niche however (Small cloak gang), my computer sucked until recently so the big fleet fights usually consisted of me flying a logistics ship because by the time I locked primaries they were generally already dead, or just not going. |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
12
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 06:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
1: 1 month into playing. only left low for hisec wardecs (which ended in a waste of time sans one fleet fight). its just so much more profitable down here (im not talking piracy actually with this)
2: Our corp had joined our current alliance a week after we started the move.
3: Looking back i honestly think it was the best decision i've made and our corp has made. Just at the right time for a few of our members as learning PVP from the start made us understand EVE better and how PVP will never leave the game. since i started PVPing i dont worry about losing ships as much anymore (in fact i rarely worry about ship losses).
4: If youre planning to make the move. make sure youre going to have trustworthy blues and PVP experience (or someone who can teach you). A good group of buds on teamspeak can make it that much more fun once you do. The new PVP mechanics of lowsec just make things more fast paced and fun also. I make bolder choices now that i can fly around in frigates and dessies easily. That and the Talwar is just hilariously fun!
(P.S. im talking lowsec here. not null... not hisec. But low. ya know, that forsaken land where mission running mining indie etc are worthless and a waste of time and PVP is only for pirates and FW? Yeah thats a lie... From day 1 of being down in lowsec i can make 2 to 3 times what i can in hisec. And if i need sec status or quick isk, nullsec ratting is a couple gates away). |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
71
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 06:04:00 -
[50] - Quote
Low/null is like a single word these days, but people are still forgetting WHs  |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
826
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 06:33:00 -
[51] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1. About a month, maybe a little less.
2. Did it through a corp, but it wasnt an established null one. Multi-game-clan that restarted their EVE arm shortly before I joined, they did a little bit of everything with an anti-pirate arm of PVP, thus the lowsec.
3. Wouldn't have changed a thing.
4. It goes beyond getting over fear, it's understanding there's nothing to be afraid of. Find some good people to teach you and accept that you'll lose ships while you learn. Fly cheap, have fun.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet
Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
288
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 06:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
moved to 0.0 after 1 year of game
joined existing corp (still have contacts with them)
returned to high-sec after another 1 year and don't want to visit 0.0 again. it's too boring there |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society
Calyxes
133
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 07:48:00 -
[53] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
When I first started to play this game, it took about 3 months before i moved into null.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I was recruited by a corporation that was in its final stages of moving.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
It felt like a natural development at the time.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Have an open mind, don't fuzz over losses. It's a learning expirience :) Nowadays you have a station in every system almost. Back when I moved down the first time, we all lived in pos's. Wich was kinda fun back then.
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Goran Konjich
Shiva Furnace
19
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
None.
5 years at Dodixie -> straight to a Wormhole
(it's the same actually  )
<> |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
279
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 11:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?.
Fly something you can afford to lose...
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
72
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 13:50:00 -
[56] - Quote
1. About 3-4 month into the game I went pirate, then I eventually started hiting up nullsec some months later.
2. I joined a corp in lowsec called Blood Money Inc, I flew mostly solo and still do to this day.
3. Not quick enough, I should have been out pvp'in as soon as I had my first 10million isk.
4. Dont become a mindless blobber or someone who sits on a titan all day in lowsec, small gang/solo is the way forward, learn from it.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
700
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 14:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a playerGÇÖs experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things IGÇÖd like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Thanks in advance for those whoGÇÖd like to chime in on any of the points above.
My progression was I think pretty Standard. I started out in the game as a mission runner (I still remember my excitement at earning enough for my 1st navy Raven after 2 months) and did that solo for a few months. Met some mission running dudes and joined their corp. 1 dude in corp had a couple friends in BoB so we went with them on a roam through null sec (my 1st pvp actioon, got on my 1st kill mail, lost my 1st Brutix), but i mostly stayed in empire running missions.
The Faction Warfare came out and i joined the 1st day, it was REALLY cool, Gallente militia had 3 full fleets out that very 1st day. Did that for a few months, joined a couple corps over that time, got bored, left gal militia for minnie milita, was going back to Gal militia when a friend in the Gal militia said "hey, we're gonna kill some carriers, join my corp for a day and you can leave tomorrow afterwards.
I ended up staying for 2 years :) . We went to Syndicate, made some friends, formed an alliance , joined with some other Alliances to make a coalition, then tried to Invade Cloud Ring, took a couple systems ran out of many and disbanded lol. My corp left the alliance we made and went to join ATLAS, then living in the Omist (ie West Bumfreak Egypt) region.
So, call it about a year of nothing but high Sec, then the past 4 years of Low and null with a bit of Wormhole here and there.
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Never. No plan to. Dealing with belligerent undesirables is not my idea of fun.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Neither. I stay in high sec and make more isk than the sociopaths in low
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
None of the above, as I have not moved.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Don't do it. High sec is all you truly need. You'll just be blobbed and pushed around by psychos in lowsec. Enjoy the civilization of high sec. Pay no mind to the undesirables screaming about fake riches out in the bad lands. |
Dgram Loop
Dutch Squad
Novus Dominatum
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 14:55:00 -
[59] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2 months after being in 3 HS corps that all failcascaded within weeks I went straight to wspace.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
A few weeks by myself in a C2 at first then I joined the rest of the corp in a C4
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Just the right time, being able to fly a battlecruiser somewhat properly and having made an alt already i was prepared to loose some ships and semicapable of refitting for much harder anomalies
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
The same as several other posters here, dont be afraid to try something new and dont be surprised or give up when minor setbacks happen - like my first ever trip through a transient wormhole got me ganked, welcome to wspace \o/
GÇ£It's the journey, not the destination", staying in highsec means you're likely to keep doing the same things over and over and you don't really get to explore all the facets of eve |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
46
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 15:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Answers:
1. A couple years. Of course, I was away from the game / unsubscribed for most of that time, so... In reality, about six months. I started taking joyrides through Nul to get over my fears of losing ships, getting podded, etc. Then I discovered that Space Trollin' was fun. Since then, whenever I get bored... I log in on this alt and go mess with someone's head in Nul.
2. Stillin my n00b corp. I'm doing this purely solo, so don't need the support of a corp/alliance. If you plan on doing anthing notable, *other* than Space Trollin', get a corp membership. It makes a BIG difference.
3. Should moved out into Nul a LOT sooner. I'm currently based out of the Sisters of EVE Bureau in ROIR-Y II, which serves my trolling needs well.
4. Prepare to die. Seriously. LOTS. Get over your fear of being podded - It will only hold you back. Make no enemies that you do not have to make, but 'make enemies' before and over 'not having fun.' Fun is what keeps you coming back.
Fly Crazy!
S. Venator
EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Luke Visteen
Apostasy Prime
121
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 15:57:00 -
[61] - Quote
I moved to low after 1 month on my first character .... It's all about finding the right corporation ....
From time perspective, although I got a lot of killmails, it was an overall bad idea.
Negative sides of this experience:
1. my corp mates did all the work so ganking others was not an educational experience.
2. I had little SP, I couldn't do **** alone.
3. EVE soon became boring after so much ganking.
4. I didn't have the skillz do be ISK self-sufficient.
5. terrible solo pilot.
Positive sides of this experience.
1. Didn't lose many ships (corp > solo when it comes to KB efficiency)
2. Learned life in low-sec
3. Learned to avoid gate camps.
4. Much better than farming missions alone
5. It is fun to kill other players.
6. low-seccers are usually very polite (those in your corp that is) and will help you out.
I don't always do. But when I do - I do. |
Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
430
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 16:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
One month (wormhole) / 4 mos. - low-sec / 1 yr. plus Null
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Joined an established corp.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Too soon for the wormhole. Good timing otherwise.
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
a) Don't join a wormhole corp where the CEO monitors how long it takes you to move your probes.
b) Join for the people and the play-style and ensure TZ compatibility. The rest will come.
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
243
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 18:10:00 -
[63] - Quote
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec? |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
704
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 18:11:00 -
[64] - Quote
Johan Civire wrote:The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?
Answer : you don't.
Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever  |
Speak Silence
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 18:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
1. Less than a week to low, a month to null.
2. No, I joined a pirate corp.
3. Yes, especially to null. I remember not being able to kill BS rats or be self-sufficient.
4. Don't forget to update your clone. Join an alliance with a new player support program. Be ready to have your spaceship blown up. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
243
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 18:23:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Johan Civire wrote:The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec? Answer : you don't. Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever
I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a buble you love eve to but not the pvp its meh borring part of eve. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
217
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 19:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Johan Civire wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Johan Civire wrote:The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec? Answer : you don't. Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid) Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun) Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local.... So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun.
Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realising how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
706
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 19:42:00 -
[68] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:Johan Civire wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Johan Civire wrote:The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec? Answer : you don't. Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid) Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun) Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local.... So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun. Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realizing how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point.
Well said. I pointed this out in a recent thread about "what's keeping you from going to null sec". If the fear of loss in a video game keeps you from doing something or going somewhere in that video game, then that person's problems go beyond the bad choice they made in playing EVE.
There are legitimate and admirable reasons for staying in high sec (such as you like hi-sec activities even knowing that are not as rewarding as in other places, or bring super casual because of real life), but "fear of losing space pixels and imaginary money that can be instantly replaced" is not one of them.
I'm still not saying people should go to null, like you I'm just pointing out their excuses.
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
245
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Posted - 2012.12.22 03:14:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Johan Civire wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Johan Civire wrote:The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec? Answer : you don't. Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid) Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun) Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local.... So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun. Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realising how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point.
No its not fear its pointless. Also this account is a alt...... So that is my income for my main. Now that we have that away. Sounds silly that you even try to beg people to come in low sec but let me say this. Eve is not all about pvp. Get that true your skulls for ones. PVP is a option if you want it or not sometimes your force to do pvp. But your main income is still pve..... Stop atack people in high sec like dumb idiots...... end of discusion. i have no time for trolling alts. |
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
137
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Posted - 2012.12.22 07:28:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1. Took me about four days to move into null. Been there ever since (for the most part).
2. I joined GoonFleet, which was the predecessor to GoonWaffe, if you are a newer player and haven't heard of it.
3. I didn't move soon enough. I ran missions for three or four days while waiting for someone to process and accept my GoonFleet application. Mission running is terrible and I almost quit the game before my app got accepted.
4. My advice is to try and find a good corp and jump into low/null straight away. Also prepare to constantly be losing your ship and learn to embrace it. If you join a null-sec corp, try to avoid the blob warfare and learn small gang PvP instead. |
Cyprus Black
Perkone
Caldari State
449
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Posted - 2012.12.22 07:51:00 -
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Chelly Tau wrote:
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
1) About a week. I was brand new to EvE and following the advice of some random guy who recommend I go to nullsec within the first day after character creation. This was back in early 2008.
2) Yes, alone. I joined the first nullsec corporation I heard about (I don't remember who as it was not on this character).
3) I moved to nullsec far too soon. All I could afford were frigates which were not welcome. The corp at the time advertised themselves to be newbie friendly, but when I got out there I was left to my own devices. Belt rats would destroy anything I flew. I didn't make a single ISK out there. Everyone looked down on me for not flying the ships they wanted me to fly (I couldn't due to lack of skillpoints and lack of funding). They even yelled at me when all I had left to fly was the rookie ships. I rage quit and deleted my character.
4) What advice for those looking to go to nullsec? Don't. Just don't.
I've been back multiple times and every time I got burned, hard. Terrible alliance after terrible alliance after terrible alliance left me flat broke. The politics and general douch-baggery is actually worse in null then high/low/wh. With all the garbage and the empty promises these nullsec corps and alliances hand out, it's just not worth it.
I would go back to nullsec if I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the corp/alliance I was joining was worth a damn. So far I have yet to find any that are recruiting.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
40
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Posted - 2012.12.22 08:49:00 -
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1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I was invited to EVE by nullsec irl friends. "play this game with us, come out to where we are." we went to Dennys while I autopiloted out to the edge of empire space. I thought autopilot was awesome.
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
I was quite familiar with the corp's members after hearing them on teamspeak for quite a few months prior.
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
perfectly fine to do it initially. benefits fast learners
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
things will make sense -later-
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham <-all items in market cost 100 ISK on the test server ;-) [[I found my capital ship PVE]] |
Elena Melkan
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
73
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Posted - 2012.12.22 09:06:00 -
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1. I moved to live in nullsec permanently when I had played the game for about a month.
2. I didn't go alone. There were couple of others like me who had gone through a great 3-weeks training programme. We were escorted by older guys of our corp, who scouted us a way safely to our nullsec space.
3. Just at the right time for me. When I started playing this game, I was kind of looking forward to PvP. I can only imagine how boring my life would have been if I had stayed in high sec. Our space is well-guarded, and now I can even PvE quite freely without having to worry getting blown up in my PvE ships. I don't miss mission running or anything like that at all.
4. Do it. Now. If you postpone it, you will never do it. And I think that, honestly, moving in is the hardest part, especially if you have a lot of ships and assets you'd like to bring with you. But once you have settled in your new home, things will get easier and most certainly better for you. |
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