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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:40:00 -
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Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill. |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:42:00 -
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risky investment is risky... no risk no isk... and so on.
you need to HTFU
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
282
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:43:00 -
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Never gamble more than you can afford to lose. EvE Forum Bingo |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Dead On Arrival Alliance
84
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:44:00 -
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tears? |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:45:00 -
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dexington wrote:risky investment is risky... no risk no isk... and so on.
you need to HTFU
Get real.
This is balls. Will CCP randomly seed more t2 bpos? they have never done this b4.... there needs to be warning before they fuq with the markets. On every patch notes so far that have effected the markets or players they have given ample warning!! |

Hector Macrathi
This Way Up
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:45:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
The price will eventually climb again, you will just have to hang on to them for a longer than you first thought.
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:46:00 -
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Not tears, just CCP doing whatever they want without any foresight |

Brutus King
Hooligans Of War
7
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:46:00 -
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LMAO this post has made my day. |

Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
573
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:47:00 -
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Meanwhile, thanks to the mission drone nerf AI thing a fairly large investment I made last spring may actually bring me a nice tidy profit. Nibiru approaches... so give me all your stuff.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
263
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:48:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
1st comments from CCP HQ appearing all over the web; "We did it because we hate you,...because we can"
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
4
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:48:00 -
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Gotta be some kinda record, tears this soon after free stuff.
I got a unit of lag. Awesome. |

Taria Katelo
South West Trading
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:48:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
when they were first introduced it was said that they wouldnt tolerate ppl hoarding the implants and stacking up huge amounts without using them etc.
so just see it as CCP making sure justice is served ;-) |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
753
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:49:00 -
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Can't please everybody. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |

Vjorn Angannon
Middleton and Mercer LLP Union 0f Revolution
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:50:00 -
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Frankly I'm quite happy.....
have a couple fits I been wanting to try, but didn't really want to for new sets...
Now I may just buy a few additional sets before prices raise again so I can use (lose) them 
and not at your prices.. |

Taria Katelo
South West Trading
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:50:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Not tears, just CCP doing whatever they want without any foresight
more like you doing things without any foresight :P
especially right before the christmas gifts it wasnt really smart to speculate on the prices of other gifts ^^ |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:50:00 -
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7/10 This post is quite entertaining.
You made a risky investment, only to see is burn down.
Never having done this before? *Looks at the Snowball launchers* |

Draghkar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:51:00 -
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This thread was the real Christmas present. Thanks CCP! |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:51:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, the other stuff was great and funny. But those implants are a commodity. Its like them giving everyone 1b units of trit.... would push miners and min traders out of the game.
I don't hate CCP, but when they pull stunts like this you gotta admit its a bit ****** without warning... |

AndromacheDarkstar
The Forsworn Protectorate Imperial Protectorate
311
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:51:00 -
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This has really cheered me up on what was otherwise a crappy work day. The Forsworn Protectorate-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:54:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:7/10 This post is quite entertaining.
You made a risky investment, only to see is burn down.
Never having done this before? *Looks at the Snowball launchers*
Snowball launchers have no real use.
This is only a risky investment if by that you mean buying ANYTHING off the market is risky because CCP might want to give everyone free units of that item. With that logic everything is a risk because CCP can do whatever they want. |
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Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:54:00 -
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edit; lolwhut, wrong thread |

Sentamon
389
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:58:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
Speculator owned!
Thankfully I invested in tissues. Buy some?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

killorbekilled TBE
The Scope Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:58:00 -
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ungrateful ?
TrollorbeTrolled |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1025
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:58:00 -
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Brutus King wrote:LMAO this post has made my day.
+1 Personnel Division Director --áBene Gesserit Chapterhouse
"The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another." - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:04:00 -
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killorbekilled TBE wrote:ungrateful ?
Of course I am ungrateful.
Without warning CCP just had un-consensual market sex with me. Something that was totally unpredictable! |

Johnnie Blue
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:05:00 -
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Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread  |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:06:00 -
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Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread 
If it was something that you invested in you would be equally as pissed don't you think??
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Johnnie Blue
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:13:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread  If it was something that you invested in you would be equally as pissed don't you think??
I don't disagree there but then there may be merit in this quote from the 1st page. I just don't have the inclination to fact check it ;)
Taria Katelo wrote:
when they were first introduced it was said that they wouldnt tolerate ppl hoarding the implants and stacking up huge amounts without using them etc.
so just see it as CCP making sure justice is served ;-)
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:15:00 -
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Johnnie Blue wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread  If it was something that you invested in you would be equally as pissed don't you think?? I don't disagree there but then there may be merit in this quote from the 1st page. I just don't have the inclination to fact check it ;) Taria Katelo wrote:
when they were first introduced it was said that they wouldnt tolerate ppl hoarding the implants and stacking up huge amounts without using them etc.
so just see it as CCP making sure justice is served ;-)
Yeah I saw that, I was pretty sure that I did my research when I invested. Unless It was said on the test server sometime or in some local chat I cannot find record of that anywhere... |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
168
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:21:00 -
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Well form some perspective i agree with op, but buissnes is always riks, why you blame OP, everyone become angry if you become a victim of this kind of supprises.
In my opinion he got right to be mad. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
504
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:26:00 -
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Stop panicking everyone of you.
http://i.imgur.com/YRODt.jpg
that's the historical price data for CA-1s.
The implants were seeded last christmas and could only be traded on contracts until August.
After the introduction on the market prices were very volatile for a while and then settled at 40m slowly sliding towards 35m.
Next, there are some volume spikes and from mid October the prices start rising sharply, doubling until mid-December.
That rise was possible because the amount of CA-1s is limited but it was not due to them becoming more and more scarce. Genolution implants also became scarcer every day in September and October when prices were slowly dropping.
What this graph tells you is that the market for genolution implants is highly susceptible to manipulation and that prices can move very fast if pushed hard enough.
There is no reason to panic now. My prediction is that prices will be back to above 50m within 2 months. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
35
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:28:00 -
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you cant spell "risk" without "isk"
*fingerpistols* |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:29:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Next, there are some volume spikes and from mid October the prices start rising sharply, doubling until mid-December.
That was when Cheese Monkey started buying the implants. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:36:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Stop panicking everyone of you. http://i.imgur.com/YRODt.jpgthat's the historical price data for CA-1s. The implants were seeded last christmas and could only be traded on contracts until August. After the introduction on the market prices were very volatile for a while and then settled at 40m slowly sliding towards 35m. Next, there are some volume spikes and from mid October the prices start rising sharply, doubling until mid-December. That rise was possible because the amount of CA-1s is limited but it was not due to them becoming more and more scarce. Genolution implants also became scarcer every day in September and October when prices were slowly dropping. What this graph tells you is that the market for genolution implants is highly susceptible to manipulation and that prices can move very fast if pushed hard enough. There is no reason to panic now. My prediction is that prices will be back to above 50m within 2 months.
Yes, but my issue here is the non-player produced, massive drop, in what will be the next month on that graph! |

Bobby Hatless
TEAMSTERS
1
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:37:00 -
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Hahahahahahahahahaa hahahaha ha ha ha haaaa ahahahahha hhahaha ah ahah aah ah ahahahhhahah aah ah hha hahah ahah ah ahh ahahhh ah hh hh h ha hah ahah ahah.
Thats prettty funny.
On the plus side you do have lots of implants now - enjoy.
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:38:00 -
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Bobby Hatless wrote:Hahahahahahahahahaa hahahaha ha ha ha haaaa ahahahahha hhahaha ah ahah aah ah ahahahhhahah aah ah hha hahah ahah ah ahh ahahhh ah hh hh h ha hah ahah ahah.
Thats prettty funny.
On the plus side you do have lots of implants now - enjoy.
I don't think you understand. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
25
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:41:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread  If it was something that you invested in you would be equally as pissed don't you think?? I don't disagree there but then there may be merit in this quote from the 1st page. I just don't have the inclination to fact check it ;) Taria Katelo wrote:
when they were first introduced it was said that they wouldnt tolerate ppl hoarding the implants and stacking up huge amounts without using them etc.
so just see it as CCP making sure justice is served ;-)
Yeah I saw that, I was pretty sure that I did my research when I invested. Unless It was said on the test server sometime or in some local chat I cannot find record of that anywhere...
Probably referring to the note in the Dev Blog from the release about farming them.
But, tbh, a gift item is a gift item - we might get them from CCP every year |

Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
15
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:44:00 -
[38] - Quote
Lucky I am that I sold my Genolutions right before the patch lol OP: If you can so easily spend 20b on this, you are not skilled enough. CCP already did something a bit similar in the past, so nothing really surpricing. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:45:00 -
[39] - Quote
You're right, how could I have mis-read this...
"Genolution went one step further to assuage fears however and vowed never to release the implant to open markets, providing only a single-run issue to capsuleers as a demonstration of the technology." |

Illest Insurrectionist
Angelic Insurrection Corp
36
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:45:00 -
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Lovely Dumplings wrote:Gotta be some kinda record, tears this soon after free stuff.
I got a unit of lag. Awesome.
There were actually tears before the free stuff when people didn't see a free remap. |
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Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
325
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:45:00 -
[41] - Quote
It's Ginger Magician allover again... Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything. |

Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:48:00 -
[42] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
Tnx CCP you didnt say we will get another gift on forums .
Bucket of tears YAY !
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Deep Navigation
Spack Force 5
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:48:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'll have lost billions on Genoloutions by DT. No point crying over it. Themza breaks.
Besides, you can make ships do crazy **** with them. My pvp alt will be milking them instead. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:51:00 -
[44] - Quote
After actually logging in, I don't know what OP is whining about. It is a different implant.... |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:51:00 -
[45] - Quote
Ana Fox wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill. Tnx CCP you didnt say we will get another gift on forums . Bucket of tears YAY !
And still people attempt to troll. I collect failed trolls as you seem to enjoy collecting tears, but lets have a big boy converstation please. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
504
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:53:00 -
[46] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote: This is only a risky investment if by that you mean buying ANYTHING off the market is risky because CCP might want to give everyone free units of that item. With that logic everything is a risk because CCP can do whatever they want.
Before switching to handing out skinned catalysts and iterons, CCP had reused a number of items that had been believed to be one-time issues in their promotions over the past 2 years (e.g. Apotheosis as a Power of 2 reward).
If you did truly believe that CCP would have qualms about reusing limited edition assets then you could have known better (by following their promotions around the world and the many angry forum threads about that behavior). I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:55:00 -
[47] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Ana Fox wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill. Tnx CCP you didnt say we will get another gift on forums . Bucket of tears YAY ! And still people attempt to troll. I collect failed trolls as you seem to enjoy collecting tears, but lets have a big boy converstation please.
Maybe I am fail troll ,but you just became fail trader :D.
Oh internet tough guy "boy conversation" ! |

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
35
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:55:00 -
[48] - Quote
since you now have so many implants would you mind sending me one CA1?
i got ca2 and have no use for it  |

Sentamon
389
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:58:00 -
[49] - Quote
Everytime a speculator gets owned, a kitten smiles. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Taria Katelo
South West Trading
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:04:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread  If it was something that you invested in you would be equally as pissed don't you think?? I don't disagree there but then there may be merit in this quote from the 1st page. I just don't have the inclination to fact check it ;) Taria Katelo wrote:
when they were first introduced it was said that they wouldnt tolerate ppl hoarding the implants and stacking up huge amounts without using them etc.
so just see it as CCP making sure justice is served ;-)
Yeah I saw that, I was pretty sure that I did my research when I invested. Unless It was said on the test server sometime or in some local chat I cannot find record of that anywhere...
"As with all item giveaways, we intend these items to be a nice bonus for people actively playing EVE. Therefore, we will be vigilant in monitoring creative attempts to farm these items, and take action on a case to case basis."
source: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3221 |
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:07:00 -
[51] - Quote
"As with all item giveaways, we intend these items to be a nice bonus for people actively playing EVE. Therefore, we will be vigilant in monitoring creative attempts to farm these items, and take action on a case to case basis."
Though many in the augmentation industry initially questioned the agenda behind GenolutionGÇÖs entry into the implantation field, fears eventually subsided as the implant was shown to be one of the safest on record. Genolution went one step further to assuage fears however and vowed never to release the implant to open markets, providing only a single-run issue to capsuleers as a demonstration of the technology.
Yes, it does say they will be 'vigilant', it doesn't say that they are going to do something that is the opposite of the item description! |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
284
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:08:00 -
[52] - Quote
Johnnie Blue wrote:Can you picture the scene in the CCP offices round the globe with devs all gathered around a monitor laughing their a55e5 off at this thread 
Actually I think CCP staff are more likely out wagering money over underground rooster-fights between their daily routine of seal clubbing and bible reading. EvE Forum Bingo |

Taria Katelo
South West Trading
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:You're right, how could I have mis-read this...
"Genolution went one step further to assuage fears however and vowed never to release the implant to open markets, providing only a single-run issue to capsuleers as a demonstration of the technology."
doesnt say that after the "demonstration" they wouldnt give out anymore of those. all it said was that for the demonstration of the technology you would only get 1 of each. which was and still is true. now they just gave you a new one as a present because they made so much money with the other stuff they sell that they wanted to give something back to the actively playing capsuleers.
Genolution also noticed single individuals stacking up huge amounts of the implants and keeping them from the actively using players which was another reason for them to release another batch as gifts. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
Maybe this just means I will have to wait longer to make a profit, but can CCP please tell us if they are planning on seeding more?? or do i now have to sell my t2 bpos and state raven because they might wana seed them at easter?? |

Taria Katelo
South West Trading
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
and can they please tell me all the changes they plan for the next 5 years so i have less risk when speculating on the market?
just go by what ccp did in the past when it came to christmas presents |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
That's my point, they have never re-seeded something of this value. Snowball launchers until now didn't do anything. These implants are a commodity that is usable and people understand.
Of course i't not asking for a forecast, but they have always given notice before of such changes! This was totally out of the blue and impacted this item by at least 30-50% in the medium term. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1192

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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
A valid question was asked: Will we seed more of the genolution implants?
Potentially. We really like them as a gift as they provide a nice little bonus but not something overwhelming. I don't know if or when we will use them, but I know we are keeping the option on the table. Game Designer | Team True Grit [url]https://twitter.com/RegnerBA[/url] |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:30:00 -
[58] - Quote
dexington wrote:risky investment is risky... no risk no isk... and so on.
you need to HTFU
This. ^^
This is EVE. In EVE, even Santa is a troll.

Santa provides gifts for all.  Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:A valid question was asked: Will we seed more of the genolution implants?
Potentially. We really like them as a gift as they provide a nice little bonus but not something overwhelming. I don't know if or when we will use them, but I know we are keeping the option on the table.
Why was there no warning? Every other market related change has had some warning. Surely you must have known that this would effect people! Was it negligence or incompetence? |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:40:00 -
[60] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:killorbekilled TBE wrote:ungrateful ?
Of course I am ungrateful. Without warning CCP just had un-consensual market sex with me. Something that was totally unpredictable!(empasis added - silens) Working as intended.
You've been playing EVE HOW long? And you're *surprised..?!* The ONLY constant in EVE is "un-consensual [insert activity] sex." It's EVE's defining characteristic! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
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Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
51
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Why was there no warning? Every other market related change has had some warning. Surely you must have known that this would effect people! Was it negligence or incompetence? Or intended? |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:43:00 -
[62] - Quote
Sephira Galamore wrote:Or intended? This. ^^
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
348
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:44:00 -
[63] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Thanks for seeding a bunch of Genolution Implants. Having just spend 20bil buying low so that I can sell for profit in 6 months, you decided to give everyone another set (without warning).
Next time why not just give everyone some t2 bpos... or 1b units of trit... or crash the price of anything you want!
The other Items were funny and great... but thanks for loosing me about 10ish bill.
Teams for a marketeer... :) This just made my day. Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
473
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
Or, you could do something about it yourself, and start podding people (or hire someone to start podding people) to get them to have to buy new implants.  You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:55:00 -
[65] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Or, you could do something about it yourself, and start podding people (or hire someone to start podding people) to get them to have to buy new implants.  Innovative business model is innovative. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:03:00 -
[66] - Quote
Classic CCP, not thinking more than a few hours ahead. |

Xuse Senna
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
554
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
My Tear sense is Tingling :D Seriously I need a Decent Siggy :| |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
112
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:06:00 -
[68] - Quote
Haven't they given these out for the last two Christmases? "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
814
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:06:00 -
[69] - Quote
"I jumped in the ocean without checking for sharks, and I got bit; it's your fault CCP." ~OP |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
Oh wow another guy crying because he attempted to profit from risk-taking and it backfired, as was a possibility inherent in said risk.
Cry some more. |
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:08:00 -
[71] - Quote
Xuse Senna wrote:My Tear sense is Tingling :D
Bring more to the table please.
... and no they have never re-seeded an item like this without warning. Not as far as i'm aware. |

Ivan Paul Freely
Small Balls and Flying Machines
3
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:09:00 -
[72] - Quote
This whole thread is full of win. Thankyou cheesy boy.
Thanks CCP for the great implants, was a very nice suprise.
So far eve has delivered on my first Christmas here. |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
112
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Xuse Senna wrote:My Tear sense is Tingling :D Bring more to the table please. ... and no they have never re-seeded an item like this without warning. Not as far as i'm aware.
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3221
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3269
You invested in the last few year's Christmas item, and were shocked when it was also this year's. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:09:00 -
[74] - Quote
Varius Xeral wrote:Oh wow another guy crying because he attempted to profit from risk-taking and it backfired, as was a possibility inherent in said risk.
Cry some more.
OMG, stop trolling and use you're evolution given brain!
I'm not crying because there was a risk. I'm cross because CCP just decided to do something like this without warning. Something they have never done b4 that affected the 'player' market. |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
112
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:Oh wow another guy crying because he attempted to profit from risk-taking and it backfired, as was a possibility inherent in said risk.
Cry some more. OMG, stop trolling and use you're evolution given brain! I'm not crying because there was a risk. I'm cross because CCP just decided to do something like this without warning. Something they have never done b4 that affected the 'player' market.
See above. They do this every year with this same implant set. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:11:00 -
[76] - Quote
2011??
or was there a particular part of this you wanted to highlight? |

Xuse Senna
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
554
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Rubbish Implant anyway :) Seriously I need a Decent Siggy :| |

TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:11:00 -
[78] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Get real.
This is balls. Will CCP randomly seed more t2 bpos? they have never done this b4.... there needs to be warning before they fuq with the markets. On every patch notes so far that have effected the markets or players they have given ample warning!!
Actually there was this thing called invention that resulted in various T2 prices to fall down heavily once people were no longer tied to T2 bpo's. You can ask how hulk BPO owners felt like when they no longer could sell their stuff for 500 mil/each and had to settle for 200 mil/each which then went down to 100 mil for while.
Face facts, CCP is bound to do shenigans that affect value of goods, prepare accordingly when planning long term business. |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:12:00 -
[79] - Quote
They do not do this every year.
They did It once (as usual) nicely introduced. Then did it this year without warning, smashing the market value. |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
112
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:12:00 -
[80] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:2011?? or was there a particular part of this you wanted to highlight?
Maybe it was only last year, hold on I thought it was 2010 too but I could be wrong.
Regardless, investing in holiday rarities is always stupid risky. There's always the potential for popular ones to return. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |
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Brorr Liason
Carbon Circle Intrepid Crossing
27
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Classic CCP, not thinking more than a few hours ahead.
At least they're thinking. It's apparent you didn't and now you can't cope with your 'loss'. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:14:00 -
[82] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:OMG, stop trolling and use you're evolution given brain!
I'm not crying because there was a risk. I'm cross because CCP just decided to do something like this without warning. Something they have never done b4 that affected the 'player' market.
The risk inherent in dealing with seeded items is that they may again be...wait for it...seeded.
Poaned.
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cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:15:00 -
[83] - Quote
TR4D3R4LT wrote:cheese monkey wrote:Get real.
This is balls. Will CCP randomly seed more t2 bpos? they have never done this b4.... there needs to be warning before they fuq with the markets. On every patch notes so far that have effected the markets or players they have given ample warning!! Actually there was this thing called invention that resulted in various T2 prices to fall down heavily once people were no longer tied to T2 bpo's. You can ask how hulk BPO owners felt like when they no longer could sell their stuff for 500 mil/each and had to settle for 200 mil/each which then went down to 100 mil for while. Face facts, CCP is bound to do shenigans that affect value of goods, prepare accordingly when planning long term business.
LOL, how much time did they give people to react? Months? I think that is slightly different. Its like them re-releasing Zephyrs in another gift, when in the item description it says it will only happen once. |

Xuse Senna
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
554
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
Awesome thread.
Needed a Laugh. Seriously I need a Decent Siggy :| |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:18:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP 2011 = Merry Xmas, we are going to give you a brilliant implant in 2 weeks, just this once (see item description)
Me = 2011 sounds like something to invest in as prices will only rise!
CCP 2012(on the day) = Have some more.
Me = FFS  |

Xuse Senna
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
554
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:20:00 -
[86] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:CCP 2011 = Merry Xmas, we are going to give you a brilliant implant in 2 weeks, just this once (see item description) Me = 2011 sounds like something to invest in as prices will only rise! CCP 2012(on the day) = Have some more. Me = FFS  <-------- Tears 
Seriously I need a Decent Siggy :| |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
114
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:21:00 -
[87] - Quote
I'm just baffled you're still playing the victim here.
It's just like the Festival Launchers, they seeded the first set years ago and said there wouldn't be more, which drove the prices up. Had I bought and horded tons of them then they just released the new ones, it'd be entirely my fault, not theirs.
Hell for an IRL example, its like buying a bunch of Coca-Cola Christmas memorabilia and hoarding it because its worth money, then they rerelease the same thing next year.
Its just bad trading, period. Its not CCP's fault, its yours. Calling everyone who points this out to you a troll doesn't make you any less wrong in this situation. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |

Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
7
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:22:00 -
[88] - Quote
Dude..you invested in the equivalent of Elvis commemorative dinner plates, with predictable result.
I mean, if some ambiguously worded flavor text on an item is good enough to get you to sink ISK into something, then I've got an amazing business venture you got to hear about... |

cheese monkey
Universal Engineering and Salvage Industries
58
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:23:00 -
[89] - Quote
Darenthul wrote:I'm just baffled you're still playing the victim here.
It's just like the Festival Launchers, they seeded the first set years ago, which drove the prices up. Had I bought and horded tons of them then they just released the new ones, it'd be entirely my fault, not theirs.
Hell for an IRL example, its like buying a bunch of Coca-Cola Christmas memorabilia and hoarding it because its worth money, then they rerelease the same thing next year.
Its just bad trading, period. Its not CCP's fault, its yours. Calling everyone who points this out to you a troll doesn't make you any less wrong in this situation.
Well, I obviously disagree. |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
114
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:24:00 -
[90] - Quote
cheese monkey wrote:Darenthul wrote:I'm just baffled you're still playing the victim here.
It's just like the Festival Launchers, they seeded the first set years ago, which drove the prices up. Had I bought and horded tons of them then they just released the new ones, it'd be entirely my fault, not theirs.
Hell for an IRL example, its like buying a bunch of Coca-Cola Christmas memorabilia and hoarding it because its worth money, then they rerelease the same thing next year.
Its just bad trading, period. Its not CCP's fault, its yours. Calling everyone who points this out to you a troll doesn't make you any less wrong in this situation. Well, I obviously disagree.
Then continue your poo-flinging escapades, I enjoy watching them. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |
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Xuse Senna
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
554
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:26:00 -
[91] - Quote
I love the all CAPS title ^^
Also your not the only one OP, you have a few 'Likes' Assuming they did the same thing :P Seriously I need a Decent Siggy :| |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:41:00 -
[92] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:After actually logging in, I don't know what OP is whining about. It is a different implant....
The original was a Perception/PG implant, the one given today is INT/CPU Actually, I got a Perception/PG implant on my Alt. So it's a mix, I suspect. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
115
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:46:00 -
[93] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:After actually logging in, I don't know what OP is whining about. It is a different implant....
The original was a Perception/PG implant, the one given today is INT/CPU Actually, I got a Perception/PG implant on my Alt. So it's a mix, I suspect.
Yep, you can get either of them. "I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:51:00 -
[94] - Quote
At CCP HQ, Reykjavik.....
Option One - As OP Would Have It:
CCP Soundwave sits at desk with phone taped to his head: "hello, yes, is this um....cheesus monkey?"
"oh, cheese, yes, sorry about that, you players sure have some names..."
"Well this is CCP Soundwave, making our round of christmas calls to let everyone know that we plan on gifting the CA- set of implants this year. Is it true you have invested significant ingame currency into this item?"
"....yes, I hear you, and that's why I'm calling, to make sure you have opportunity to recoup your investment. We take our InterStellarKurrency very seriously here at CCP, and would never make any change that could potentially cause a player loss. If you are unable to recoup the value of the implants before we gift them, I will personally credit your wallet with the isk difference."
OR
Option Two - As CCP Would Have It:
CCP ________ sits at computer, logged into EVE: ((to self)) "Hrm, players really loved those implants we gave out, I think I'll try out one of these neat fits that wouldn't be possible otherwise"
((gets attention of other nearby employee and points to screen)) "Look at this, you remember those implants we gifted?"
Other CCP _______ approaches: "Yeah, I do, you have to check out (insert awesome rifter fit here), that implant set makes it possible, and newbies...."
First CCP _______ interrupts: "But, look at this, some cheese guy has singlehandedly manipulated the market on them, making them nearly inaccessible to the newbies who could really use them, and trying to pull huge profits from our generosity."
Both CCP in unison: CHRISTMAS GIFT!!! |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
267
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:53:00 -
[95] - Quote
lock it...please
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
134
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:57:00 -
[96] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:A valid question was asked: Will we seed more of the genolution implants?
Potentially. We really like them as a gift as they provide a nice little bonus but not something overwhelming. I don't know if or when we will use them, but I know we are keeping the option on the table. So there I was last night, thinking: "I've been getting a lot of ships blown up frivolously, let's sell off some assets that have been gathering dust. Hmm... I got these Genolution things for free and I'm not using them, let me put them on the market and make someone else happy with them!"
Sold just before downtime.
And what did I get for Christmas? Replacement Genolutions and a bucket of tears!
Keep doing what you do <3 "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1441

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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:59:00 -
[97] - Quote
Quote: Ranting is prohibited
A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.
Understand that a gift is a gift, and you are still getting a free item. Market fluctuations happen all the time and your investment was risky. Also, ranting about it on the forums isn't going to help your case. Danke.
Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1071

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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:03:00 -
[98] - Quote
I am locking this topic for being a rant.
We do not announce what Christmas gifts we are giving away beforehand, as that ruins the spirit of them. We reserve the right to rerelease any old content at any time. While we never intend to crash any market for an item, we do acknowledge that this will happen at times and we apologize to anyone who is negatively affected by it. Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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