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![Mag's Mag's](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1599956208/portrait?size=64)
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:37:00 -
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Stein Backstabber wrote:Yes, I simply feel one should be able to shoot wise-ass people more easily before concord wades in ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) . War dec them.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
![Lovely Dumplings Lovely Dumplings](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92684484/portrait?size=64)
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
13
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:47:00 -
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I may be wrong on this, but, why not make bumping just generate a limited engagement? Someone bumps my barge, I get on the batphone, call some corpmates over, fleet up, and violence the bumper's spacecanoe. Innocent bumps can be ignored, malicious bumps can be responded to, if you have the resources.
This, of course, assumes fleet members can get involved in limited engagements, like they could before with canbaiting and such. |
![Nevyn Auscent Nevyn Auscent](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91786526/portrait?size=64)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
35
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:50:00 -
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Stein Backstabber wrote:Then we shall have to disagree.
My argument is simply that an overtly hostile act should be treated as such. Tell me why it shouldn't? I think that should change.
I've never 'accidentally' bumped something I had locked, in much the same way I've never had a negligent smartbomb discharge, or accidentally shot a ship...just paying attention I suppose.
Edit: Alternatively, perhaps, why should the mechanic remain? I'm not in favor of removal, I like the 'poor mans point' tactic, it's inventive.
However, I do not like the current status quo. It feels wrong on several levels to me. Personal opinion of course.
Auto Target back. I target you. Newbie has left Auto target back on, targets me. I disable targetting on my end. They stay locked. Now if I bump them. they are the one who has me locked. They get whatever consequences result from a 'hostile' act.
One easy step of abuse. |
![larrios Aurgnet larrios Aurgnet](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92686564/portrait?size=64)
larrios Aurgnet
Metalli-Core
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:02:00 -
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i thought when 2 ships bumped a baby ship was born,guess i was wrong. |
![Alavaria Fera Alavaria Fera](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91492021/portrait?size=64)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2040
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:31:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Stein Backstabber wrote:Yes, I simply feel one should be able to shoot wise-ass people more easily before concord wades in ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) . War dec them. Yes, I too would like to wardec the NPC corps. Please ask CCP to let me do this, so I can follow your advice. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
![Stein Backstabber Stein Backstabber](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90225313/portrait?size=64)
Stein Backstabber
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:45:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Stein Backstabber wrote:Then we shall have to disagree.
My argument is simply that an overtly hostile act should be treated as such. Tell me why it shouldn't? I think that should change.
I've never 'accidentally' bumped something I had locked, in much the same way I've never had a negligent smartbomb discharge, or accidentally shot a ship...just paying attention I suppose.
Edit: Alternatively, perhaps, why should the mechanic remain? I'm not in favor of removal, I like the 'poor mans point' tactic, it's inventive.
However, I do not like the current status quo. It feels wrong on several levels to me. Personal opinion of course. Auto Target back. I target you. Newbie has left Auto target back on, targets me. I disable targetting on my end. They stay locked. Now if I bump them. they are the one who has me locked. They get whatever consequences result from a 'hostile' act. One easy step of abuse.
Setting aside possible impact calculations to determine fault (Potentially/probably too much load?), this is something I had considered, naturally, I don't expect you to believe me: this is the internet after all ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Auto target back can be turned off, and it would be a one-time newbie burn - much like can-flipping of old. Can't wrap everyone up in cotton wool forever now, can we? There's also the consideration of the relative locking time required for the typically 'bumped' boats - they aint no inties after all. |
![Mag's Mag's](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1599956208/portrait?size=64)
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10921
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mag's wrote:Stein Backstabber wrote:Yes, I simply feel one should be able to shoot wise-ass people more easily before concord wades in ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) . War dec them. Yes, I too would like to wardec the NPC corps. Please ask CCP to let me do this, so I can follow your advice. Sarcasm. ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
I didn't actually mention NPC corps. But people there, have a price to pay for Concord protection. One of them is, not being able to war dec those bumping them. ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
I did expect someone to mention NPC corps, but not you tbh. Happy holidays.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
![Princess Gankskank Princess Gankskank](https://images.evetech.net/characters/705149986/portrait?size=64)
Princess Gankskank
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:06:00 -
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Quote:What's wrong with bumping?
Is a pretty old dance bra. U do maybe da Gator next K?
Melee Kaikimakka anywaze. |
![Kainotomiu Ronuken Kainotomiu Ronuken](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92344758/portrait?size=64)
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
344
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Posted - 2012.12.28 16:33:00 -
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Lovely Dumplings wrote:I may be wrong on this, but, why not make bumping just generate a limited engagement? Someone bumps my barge, I get on the batphone, call some corpmates over, fleet up, and violence the bumper's spacecanoe. Innocent bumps can be ignored, malicious bumps can be responded to, if you have the resources.
This, of course, assumes fleet members can get involved in limited engagements, like they could before with canbaiting and such. This would be pretty terrible on the Jita undock.
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![Morrigan LeSante Morrigan LeSante](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1840324763/portrait?size=64)
Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
145
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Posted - 2012.12.28 21:58:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Lovely Dumplings wrote:I may be wrong on this, but, why not make bumping just generate a limited engagement? Someone bumps my barge, I get on the batphone, call some corpmates over, fleet up, and violence the bumper's spacecanoe. Innocent bumps can be ignored, malicious bumps can be responded to, if you have the resources.
This, of course, assumes fleet members can get involved in limited engagements, like they could before with canbaiting and such. This would be pretty terrible hilarious on the Jita undock.
I fixed it, and you know it. |
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