Ever heard of this game called DUST 514?

Newsflash: EVE PVP isn't for the console generation.

... which compounds the EvE stigma keeping away many competitive PvPers.

Whatever PvP MMO I play, I tend to ask the peeps I meet if they ever played EvE, DAoC, WH, DFO and others games.

Your one liners quote seem to show you as being one of such generation.

NPCs, bad at camping gates.

lol what do they compete at, who can be the last active account on the server?

All Guristas ever manage to kill is RZR

*cough*

hook me up with one of these games with 25k+ players on a single sharded world

lmao

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eve has more players online during peak hours, all in the same world, then DAoC for example has active accounts

but I gotta sit here and listen to this dude extol the virtues of these failed games noone plays anymore

like seriously?

Numbers aren't everything.
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The problems with null has nothing to do with raw numbers.

In EvE you have a linear scaling so you are just better add more and more bodies so the blob is not just "supported" but the obvious choice to go.

You want to change conquerable nullsec? Sure, make it preferable to build, mine and rat there compared to hisec, make the sov mechanics suck less (...)

Want to make other changes? Want to make it so ever increasing gang sizes yield diminishing returns, go right ahead, as long as you do it in a non-******** manner.

Coming up with ideas which are trying to make it so f.ex a 50 man gang should automatically bitchslap a 255 man gang just because "they're fewer", however, is bad. In fact, it's one of those ideas I like to categorize as "make your face meet a frying pan" ideas, they're usually that bad and dumb.

Last I checked, a smaller, but much better prepared and skilled gang already does wipe the floor with a bigger gang of less skilled and worse fit fleets.

The example of Rooks&Kings was made. But do you really expect a newcommer to SOV Null to have all skills, tactics and so on ready? I think not. They need to learn, aye. But they need to have a chance else they will try it and leave it.

Ah yes, numbers always win? That isn't true. Persian Wars, Battle of Agincourt and so on
Superior numbers can be circumvented in the real world. In EVE that is extremly hard to impossible, especially with SOV warfare.

Basic common sense? Is EVE a real world simulation with all physical, economical, social and so on laws? No it isn't.
It's a sandbox game with certain rules, which were made by CCP. It was CCP who created these mechanics. It's common sense to modify these game mechanics so CCP can make more profit.

Since you belong to such a leviathan coporation/alliance/coalition in null numbers aren't your problem. But if you look from the opposite direction numbers are a problem within SOV.

The possibilities for mining, industry, ratting and everything else should scale in the right way with highsec. There is nothing wrong to earn more in Null since you'll more likely to lose a ship or other expensive hardware. Null needs every aspect of EVE playable and workable.

It shouldn't be that way (no i win buttons). Thought once smaller entities are able to get and hold SOV independently they also need a way defend it with alot of effort even against larger numbers.

The example of Rooks&Kings was made. But do you really expect a newcommer to SOV Null to have all skills, tactics and so on ready? I think not. They need to learn, aye. But they need to have a chance else they will try it and leave it.

... said by someone playing a game whose full online playerbase outside top prime time is 25,000...

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Bolded the important part for you. You are not Gerard Butler and your little highsec corp are not spartans, no matter how much you want to be.
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Firstly its a metaphor you moron, secondly what you've done is just quoted a real life example and then said real life examples don't work. In the same post. :Facepalm:. Finally why should ccp make mechanics for you to win? Did Leonidus cry to the great devs in the sky to 'nurf dem persians they're blobbing me!!!!1!!' and stay in his palace because 'didn't want that Greece anyway?' or did he go and just fight them?

Yes and making them a bit less important wouldn't hurt alot and would open alot of possibilities.

Since you belong to such a leviathan coporation/alliance/coalition in null numbers aren't your problem. But if you look from the opposite direction numbers are a problem within SOV.

It shouldn't be that way (no i win buttons). Thought once smaller entities are able to get and hold SOV independently they also need a way defend it with alot of effort even against larger numbers.

The example of Rooks&Kings was made. But do you really expect a newcommer to SOV Null to have all skills, tactics and so on ready? I think not. They need to learn, aye. But they need to have a chance else they will try it and leave it.

Sir you made me laugh.

The Persian Wars are more than the battle at thermopylae. Thought the outnumbered Greek city states repelled the invasions of the far more powerful Persians.

Btw. i'm sure Leonidas and his host prayed to their gods alot while they were at Thermopylae.

All i do is cry to my "gods", the devs of EVE, in the very same way: Give me the means to vanquish my enemies!

The rest of that. As you may have noticed or not i had a discussion in 2 different spheres. The one were the real world the other the simiplified, contrieved world of EVE.

All i do is cry to my "gods", the devs of EVE, in the very same way: Give me the means to vanquish my enemies!

The only thing you should be crying to your "gods" about, then, would be the sov system, since that's the main mechanical hurdle inherent in the system.

Make evil goonies unable to hold sov.

yeah cool, space that 9-11 thousand people can't be bothered to hold sounds real appealing for smaller alliances to move into

how many hundreds of millions per month should it cost to hold a system with -0.01 truesec, 1 station with gimped manufacturing, refining and no missions before the newbies come running into take it for themselves, in your opinion?

no cloaky camping keeps the BLOB ALLIANCES in check and BALANCED

newbie alliances have supercap fleets and hundreds of disposable alts, right?

yeah cool, space that 9-11 thousand people can't be bothered to hold sounds real appealing for smaller alliances to move into

how many hundreds of millions per month + billions in infrastructure investment should it cost to hold a system with -0.01 truesec, 2 belts, 1 station with gimped manufacturing, refining and no missions before the newbies come running into take it for themselves, in your opinion? I mean in between costs incurred by defending their space against the 30k+ alliance because hey just because they don't want the space means they're going to let you live there either, right?

It seems to work OK for CVA and the rest of ProviBlock.

Quick, someone put a ring technetium in an envelope in the space shire.