Btw. i'm sure Leonidas and his host prayed to their gods alot while they were at Thermopylae.

All i do is cry to my "gods", the devs of EVE, in the very same way: Give me the means to vanquish my enemies!

I'm sure the devs will leave you to die too, just like his gods did ;P

Killed by skillless noob blobbers?

Exactly :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang

12:300!

Things sometimes happen... would it happen in this game too? Well, I dunno... as a super duper n00b, my experience is really limited. But I cannot find any choke points other than station undock position and jump gates. I hope CCP would be interested in adding some space anomalies such as black holes, gas clouds, etc etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang

12:300!

Things sometimes happen... would it happen in this game too? Well, I dunno... as a super duper n00b, my experience is really limited. But I cannot find any choke points other than station undock position and jump gates. I hope CCP would be interested in adding some space anomalies such as black holes, gas clouds, etc etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang

12:300!

Things sometimes happen... would it happen in this game too? Well, I dunno... as a super duper n00b, my experience is really limited. But I cannot find any choke points other than station undock position and jump gates. I hope CCP would be interested in adding some space anomalies such as black holes, gas clouds, etc etc.

This is down to simple game mechanics - how do you make choke points in the endless Cosmos of Space? Answer: You don't.

You have CCP make them for you.

As you noted, undocks (not really), gates (can be tricky) or a jump bridge (if you catch a blob on one of those it's like a surprise gift).

I'm sure the devs will leave you to die too, just like his gods did ;P

And none of you have been able to convince me that your inability to use superior tactics and fleet composition means CCP should add additional mechanics to empower your smaller group over a larger one.

Even Goons reported in to support "smaller is better" (to present their own agenda under that disguise).
A change to SOV and SOV warfare is needed.

"Smaller is better"

In a way you sound a bit like Baghdad Bob you know. "Everything is fine in EVE - it is just some players that are incompetent" - all whilst the state of the game says something else.

Have you not thought about that maybe the current mechanics have benefitted large groups way too much rather than that improving the situation for small groups would be "nerfing big groups"?

Cause that is what I think anyway, specially when it comes to Local (instant information) and the passive activity of null.

I never once said that everything was fine, but I don't think what you're saying is a problem actually is.


In what way? Game mechanics in general tend to benefit large groups over small groups. There's nothing particularly special or sinister about that.


Null does have problems, but they're not going to be fixed by some arbitrary mechanic that gives smaller groups, say, a bonus to ship HP, DPS, and velocity that reduces as the group size increases, or some other mechanic that gives smaller groups an advantage.

Why aren't you actually utilizing the advantages that small fleets actually have? Small fleets are more mobile and they do tend to be easier to manage.

Yes, game mechanics should favour large groups but only in certain situations. Just as small groups should be favoured in certain situations.

As for arbitrary mechanics - I strongly oppose any such suggestions as this would definitely harm EVE on so many levels. Bonus velocity when flying in small groups just because they are in a small group is just silly. Besides, that is what gang assist modules are for already. All stats are solid and should stay solid.

However, I do want to make full use of the stats that EVE already has presented, namely primarily signature radius and use that as a factor when finding ships. There is nothing arbitrary about this. If a small group of players are flying together then they will only emit such amount of signal. If a huge blob is flying however then said signal will be quite significantly bigger.

You cannot really deny that a lot of people avoid taking risks like going to low/null simply because there is a mechanic out there that actively plays against them for no real reason. And most people who oppose these changes are most likely the ones who want to keep taking advantage of these mechanics - even when CCP themselves have said that said mechanic wasn't meant to be used this way in the first place. In fact I strongly suspect that CCP of all people have been perfectly aware of the points that I am trying to make for quite a few years already.

Information should be something that you have to work for. Not something that you get for free, instantly and in extreme detail.

Which "certain situations"?

Well good, I'm glad we're in agreement.


Interesting idea. I think it has some merit.


If you're referring to local, the mechanic actively works for them as well. Not to mention that without local there'd be a lot less people in nullsec to shoot at, unless we had some consistent method of continuously determining the presence of ships, including cloaked ships, within several AU.


Local only shows the names of the pilots in the same system as you. That's the only information you get from it. It doesn't tell you whether they're docked, undocked, in a POS, what ship they're in, what the name of their ship is, their location, what fleets they're in (unless of course they're in your fleet).

The directional scanner will tell you a few more things, but it's a tool that gives you more information the more work you put into it. If you set it to 360 degree scan it will tell you what's out there that's uncloaked, what the ship name is and the ship type, but that's about it. It takes practice before one is able to quickly determine distance and direction to a target using the dscanner. In any case, the dscanner doesn't tell you who's in control of the ship or even that there is someone in control of the ship at all, except for a few cases like they forgot to rename their ship after assembling it or something.

Solo players/small groups of carebearish players aren't going to move into low/null if local was removed, in fact the opposite would happen unless CCP also made massive changes to the risk/reward ratio between hisec and low/null.

Why? Because these "solo/micro groups of the more carebearish nature" already have such a place to go to, it's called "wormholes".

And that is the nature of wormholes and the inconsistent access to normal space.

Seems you forget that it delayed the Persians long enough. Mission accomplished. Leonidas name lived on to our days and might be known till the last humans are gone. I don't really expect the same for me, Miri Amatonur.

@RubyPorto
You demanded examples and you got a ton of them.
You can go on and try to discard every example because they don't fit your course. The readers know why you're doing it.

Even Goons reported in to support "smaller is better" (to present their own agenda under that disguise).
A change to SOV and SOV warfare is needed.

"Smaller is better"

Yes, game mechanics should favour large groups but only in certain situations. Just as small groups should be favoured in certain situations.