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Nyphur	Posted - 2005.06.13 04:51:00 - [31] Where's my prize? :p
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2005.06.13 04:51:00 - [32] Where's my prize? :p Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
lofty29 Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Nyphur WTB: 8 x Vepas' Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel are better --- Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting!
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:05:00 - [34] winner would be a wyvern for sure
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:06:00 - [35] Originally by: U'puauht Edited by: U''puauht on 09/06/2005 01:00:46 Edited by: U''puauht on 09/06/2005 00:55:04 Originally by: Captin Biltmore Yes sir, that is an assumption....but on every ship I can fly and have the fit out for it is calculating the armor resists correctly as displayed in game...stacking penilty and all. Try a Maller; that tool of a tool keeps telling me my base resistances are 92/85/84/87 EM/Kin/Expl/Therm and I'm **** sure they're not... Anyways, using that tool on a Sacriledge (which I can't pilot), I get this: 2x Chelm's Thermic and 1 Chelm's Kin/Expl/EM each --> 97,12 EM --> 97,30 Kinetic --> 98,56 Explosive --> 97,67 Thermal -> 390,65 pts total This is a sustainable 'tank', too, cap should level out at ~75%. You just can't really 'tank', as that usually involves running a repairer. this would mean your chelm's EM gives 92,8% EM resistance so it's incorrect
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:08:00 - [36] How would a Rattler do with a stack of hardeners in the mids plus the damage control in the lows? I am too lazy to test these things myself Fear is the mind-killer.
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:09:00 - [37] Edited by: Pottsey on 14/11/2006 21:09:54 There should be a 100 million fine for necroing old threads without good reason. When this thread was started a lot of modules did not work like they do now. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Takrolimus Actually that is beaten by a Scorp with 8 Luther Theron Omni Hardeners. EM 96.30 KN 97.78 EX 98.52 TH 97.04 TOTAL 389.64 Now THAT can't be beaten :) wtf are luther theron omni hardeners and screw stacking penalty right
Mr Popov Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:13:00 - [39] Edited by: Mr Popov on 14/11/2006 21:15:13 Have you guys forgotten the siege warfare shield harmonizing link. Bring a vulture pilot with a siege warfare mindlink with squadron command level 5 and command ships level 5, along with the Luther ...whatever scorp. EDIT and fit a best damage control in the low slot.
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:13:00 - [40] "and screw stacking penalty right" Deathbarrage things work differently over 1 year ago when those people wrote that stuff. Just like at the cap on the old invul field to now. Back then it was 20cap/s sec or something like that now its 2.5 ish off the top of my head. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Pottsey "and screw stacking penalty right" Deathbarrage things work differently over 1 year ago when those people wrote that stuff. Just like at the cap on the old invul field to now. Back then it was 20cap/s sec or something like that now its 2.5 ish off the top of my head. sorry didn't realize it was a necro thread heh
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:19:00 - [42] Edited by: Crellion on 14/11/2006 21:19:41 **** necros Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Hayward Cyprus Caldari Hunters Agency	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:40:00 - [43] Edited by: Hayward Cyprus on 14/11/2006 21:42:52 ==[ SCORPION ]== (Scorpion) null HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [1654 \| 66] Siege Missile Launcher II 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) - [1654 \| 66] Siege Missile Launcher II 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) - [1654 \| 66] Siege Missile Launcher II 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) - [1654 \| 66] Siege Missile Launcher II 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) 2420 (group 508) (mkt 644) - [2362 \| 57] 425mm Railgun II 3090 (group 74) (mkt 566) 3090 (group 74) (mkt 566) - [2362 \| 57] 425mm Railgun II 3090 (group 74) (mkt 566) 3090 (group 74) (mkt 566) MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Explosion Dampening Field 14759 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14759 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 37] Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field 14767 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14767 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field 14763 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14763 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field 14763 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14763 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Ballistic Deflection Field 14751 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14751 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field 14755 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14755 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 42] Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field 14755 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14755 (group 77) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 37] Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field 14767 (group 77) (mkt 9968) 14767 (group 77) (mkt 9968) LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 1 \| 17] Internal Force Field Array I 5839 (group 60) (mkt 615) 5839 (group 60) (mkt 615) - [ 0 \| 16] Ahremen's Modified Power Diagnostic System 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 16] Ahremen's Modified Power Diagnostic System 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) - [ 0 \| 16] Ahremen's Modified Power Diagnostic System 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) 15106 (group 57) (mkt 9968) SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powergrid : 11348.8 / 14419.224 MW CPU : 772.0 / 937.5 tf Capacitor (regen) : 6282.61 Energy (395.61sec) Max Cap Regen : 38.91 per sec (approx.) Max Cap Needed : 23.236 per sec Velocity : 143.75 m/sec Signature : 480.0 m Target Range : 112500.0 m Scan Resolution : 93.75 mm ECCM Gravimetric : 24.0 points Shield HP (regen) : 7688.077 (1149.09sec) Max Shield Regen : 16.73 per sec (approx.) Shield EM : 91.32 % Shield Explo : 94.85 % Shield Kinetic : 92.27 % Shield Thermal : 93.06 % Armor HP : 5468.75 Armor EM : 65.6 % Armor Explo : 22.6 % Armor Kinetic : 35.5 % Armor Thermal : 52.7 % Structure HP : 5468.75 Drone Capacity : 75.0 m3 Capacity : 550.0 only reaches 371.5 but is fully sustainable.... actually the whole thing would make more sence if you made the competition like who can tank the most DPS in his lowest resist sustained.... because that would be a "tanking"-contest like in getting the best tank possible :-). Quite astonished that previous scorpion fitters never put on a damage control (stacking penalty free 10% more resist!)... but oh well, maybe i overread that..... Totally useless fittings... passive tanked ferox tanks more dps than this Hayward Cyprus
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.14 23:08:00 - [44] Congrats on the Necro lofty --- Quote: "Seleene is Primary." "She isn't here." "She's still primary."
goodby4u	Posted - 2006.11.14 23:10:00 - [45] Zealot 2xt2 kinetic hardeners. 2xt2 thermic hardeners. 2xt2em hardeners. 1xt2explosive hardener. Resists:90%91%91%84% 356,i could probably get 90% across the board with officer but im too lazy to look it up
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.11.14 23:32:00 - [46] Edited by: Tasty Burger on 14/11/2006 23:35:01 Vulture with: 3 estamel invulns 2 estamel photons 1 estamel explosion 1 DCU II 93.91 EM 97.35 Thermal 96.02 Kinetic 96.72 Explosive 384 points. Average of 96. Completely useless, but... still. Its the best possible. - It's great being Minmatar, ain't it?
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2006.11.14 23:55:00 - [47] Claymore has 92% EM already. 4 low slots thats 4x Cormaks EANMs. Plus 6 mids to shield tank.
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.11.15 01:17:00 - [48] Well I only quick fitted this out, not sure if these parts are out but I used all passive mods on a ****ation: Low 3x Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3x Chelm's Energized Adaptive Nano Plating EM: 96.08 EX: 93.64 KN: 93.33 TH: 98.04 Total Score: 381.09 This ises no cap but only takes over all of your lows but that leaves faction cap recharge for mids and all lasers on highs. Or using a Vulture I got: Med 1x Estamel's Modified Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 3x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field 2x Large Shield Extender II Low 2x 'Radical' Damage Control I 2x Type-D Power Core Modification: Shield Power Relay Score: EM-95.46 TH-97.61 KN-96.42 EX-95.22 = 384.71 This got me to a shield bank of 9937 and a recharge of 51shield per-sec -(side note 51/0.0478 = 1067 EX DPS tankage at worse and at best 51/.0239 = 2134 TH DPS)- and a perm tank, the maxed out form is: Med 1x Estamel's Modified Explosion Dampening Amplifier 2x Estamel's Modified Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 3x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Low 4x 'Radical' Damage Control I Score: EM-98.12 TH-97.85 KN-96.78 EX-98.37 = 391.12 -(only 15/.0163 = 920 EX dps at best) ------------------------------------------------------ Is this form made to tanking uber damage boarder lineing tanking any titan? 35000x1.25(the skill maxed)x3(can use three DDs befor cap is dead).
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.11.15 02:05:00 - [49] Well, the "maximize resists" approach is perfectly valid in mini-fleets with heavy logistics drone support, for instance. Think, for instance gallente command ships small gang. Or heck, just heavy remote tank, be it shield or armor, doesn't really matter. Personally, I think command ships are the best candidates for insane tanks. Think Vulture for remote shieldtank or whats-its-name Amarr fleet command ship for remote armor tank. Fittings will obviously include officer active hardners and some "omni" resists too. Besides, the "sum it all up to 400" is a BAD, BAD way to measure it. Best way to measure a tank's resilience is to do SUM [ 100 / (100 - resist) ]. ...or sum[1/(1-[%])], same thing So a 0/60/40/20 would be 1 + 2.5 + 1.6(6) + 1.25 = 6.416(6) But a 99/99/99/99 would be 100+100+100+100 = 400 And a 99.9/99.9/99.9/99.9 would be 4000 _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.11.15 02:37:00 - [50] Vulture "fake" base 0/60/70/80 plus 25% from L5 BC, equals "real" base of 25/70/77.5/85 With ONE damage control II (they're already in the game, 12.5% to all shield resists, NON stacking nerfed)... ...you end up at: 34.375/73.75/80.3125/86.875 (and that with a single module fitted so far). 6 midslots, best possible modules would be Estamel's active hardners for 64% to one resist, or Estamel's invul for 50% to each resist. Thos invuls eat up a lot of cap (40 every 12 sec), while the actives only half of that. You could even go with PASSIVE versions and L5 compensation skills, for no cap usage whatsoever and 62% resist (compared to 64%). 6 estamel's invuls (they do eat up a lot of cap tho', doubt you could sustain it) 89.38069132/95.75227653/96.8142074/97.87613826 Sum of resists: 379.82 "hardness" factor: 111.43 (400 would be all-99%-resists) 2 em, 1 each other, 1 invul 92.5070640994.6565919195.9924439397.32829595 sum: 380.4843959 hardness factor: 94.44 1 of each active plus 2 invuls 90.45255396.181021297.135765998.0905106 sum: 381.8598507 hardness factor: 123.94 Full passive setup (with all L5 shield compensations): 2 EM, 2 EXP, 1 Kin and 1 Therm 88.500181395.4000725292.5187595.0125 sum: 371.4315038 hardness factor: 63.85213795 There you go. _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.11.15 05:02:00 - [51] Using an absolution with all amrour compensations at 5. 4x Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 2x Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane 1x Corpum A-Type Energized Magnetic Membrane got the following Kin - 92.53% Exp - 92.77 Em - 90.36 Thm - 92.36 Total 368.02 thats off the top of my head. -
Wiggy69 5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.15 09:38:00 - [52] I got bored so I started playing with Quickfit. D*mnation setup (silly swear filter ) 4 x Corpum A-type Medium Nosferatu Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense 4 x Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger 1 x Corpum/Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer 2 x Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1 x Core X-type Armor EM Hardener 1 x Core X-type Armor Kinetic Hardener 1 x Core X-type Armor Thermic Hardener Resists are 95.5% EM, 93.7% Exp, 95.8% Kin and 92.7% Therm, without taking gang skills into account (assuming Armor Compensation skills at 5). Cap recharge rate is 75.5 seconds, plus nos Anyone know what this would be with Gang bonuses (Armored Warfare Spec and Squadron Command lvl 5)? ----- Wiggy's Bad Spelling and Grammar Complaints Department
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.15 09:45:00 - [53] Originally by: R31D Never heard of that Luther Theron dude. Can't find him on Eve-i.com or anywhere else for that matter. I'm probably just not looking hard enough, but could somebody send me a link to some of his equipment/stats General Luther Veron, but he doesnt drop loot. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:13:00 - [54] i can't use quickfit but imo wyvern should be able to get the highest amount of resists possible, or else it'll be the vulture wyvern: 25% base resists + 8 med slots I'd say something like 2x estamel EM 2x estamel therm 1x estamel kin 1x estamel exp 2x estamel invul 1x DCU II
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Deathbarrage i can't use quickfit but imo wyvern should be able to get the highest amount of resists possible, or else it'll be the vulture wyvern: 25% base resists + 8 med slots I'd say something like 2x estamel EM 2x estamel therm 1x estamel kin 1x estamel exp 2x estamel invul 1x DCU II Well Wyvern is T1. It has 2 slots more than the Vulture, but a significant difference in base resistances. I'm pretty sure you can only get near equal to a Vulture in a Wyvern with equally godly modules. P.S. Chimera ftw (Carrier V training, tick, tock) ---
xHalcyonx Amarr CyberDyne Industries Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.15 23:42:00 - [56] I saw this on Eve-files: Zealot and Sacrilege resists
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.11.16 01:45:00 - [57] question, has anyone ever looked at how much danage these set up can tank? any one want to change how much you tank to how much dps you can tank and work for atleast 300sec(5min)
Asmodeos Gallente United Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.16 12:08:00 - [58] On my Dominix i had a tank that could repair ~1100 dps, and an megathron navy issue with about the same number of repair both have resist in the 85% range. both being able to last indefinately, only used them for mission running though. Both calculated with the tanking sheet from www.eve-tanking.com. Greetings Asmodeos
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.11.16 15:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Asmodeos On my Dominix i had a tank that could repair ~1100 dps, and an megathron navy issue with about the same number of repair both have resist in the 85% range. both being able to last indefinately, only used them for mission running though. Both calculated with the tanking sheet from www.eve-tanking.com. Greetings Asmodeos fitting and gear plz
Asmodeos Gallente United Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.17 10:39:00 - [60] Edited by: Asmodeos on 17/11/2006 10:55:13 Okay the fitting would be, ill just do the Dominix: High: 2x Heavy diminishing power drain (NOS) 2x Drone link Augmentor I 1x tech 2 large smartbomb 1x 250mm tech2 railgun with iron charges to get aggro Med: 5x Cap recharger II Low: 2x Centum a-type eanm (i have all mechanic level 5 so gives 35.4% on all resists) 1x Centus x-type explosive (64% active hardener) 1x Centus x-type kinetic (64% active hardener) 1x Centus x-type thermal (64% active hardener) 2x Centus x-type Large armor repper (reps 1260 armor for 450 energy each 11.25 secs) Drone bay: Any number and mixes of texh 2 drones This tank runs indefinately and with resists being: Em: 82.11% Exp: 85.51% Therm: 89.53% Kin: 89.53% According the tanking sheet I now should have a 1680 dps repair, ideal for missions :P. And the navy issue megathron: High: 5x 425mm tech II with Javalin ammo 1x Drone link Augmentor I 2x Malkuth heavy missile launchers Med: 4x Cap recharger II Low: 2x Centum a-type eanma (i have all mechanic level 5 so gives 35.4% on all resists) 1x Centus x-type explosive (64% active hardener) 1x Centus x-type kinetic (64% active hardener) 1x Centus x-type thermal (64% active hardener) 2x Centus x-type Large armor repper (reps 1260 armor for 450 energy each 11.25 secs) 1x Power capacitor relay Drone bay: 4x tech II ogres and 5x techII light drones With tank and resists being the same you should still have 1680 dps repair, except that you can run either all guns/hardeners and 1 armour repper indefinately or the hardeners and the 2 reppers, a little bit more skill required. Greetings Asmodeos

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