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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
221
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Posted - 2013.01.03 17:52:00 -
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joined up, played off and on for 2-3 years: did missioning and nullsec industry, was bored to tears unsubbed saying 'this game sucks and is boring'.
decided to come back and give PVP a try. was hooked after my first engagement. |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
135
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Posted - 2013.01.03 18:35:00 -
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- Started game (didn't even know how to undock) - joined help channel and was told to join a corp - found a totally random corp - not long after was taken into lowsec for pew pew - got annihilated, but our motley crew killed a cruiser before being raped by a hac gang.
And ever since then I loved it :) "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
318
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Posted - 2013.01.03 18:36:00 -
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Chandaris wrote: decided to come back and give PVP a try. was hooked after my first engagement.
Yup.
Scanning down my target, figuring out his vulnerabilities, predicting his actions, setting the ambush... F1! Bomb away! It gives me a very pleasant adrenaline tingle.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2357
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Posted - 2013.01.03 19:41:00 -
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It's possible to be a risk-taker and be a carebear. You find them in nullsec operating alone. I am not referring to some botter safely behind the gank pipelines ratting with a carrier, I refer to the loners wandering about, knowing always they are outgunned and likely outnumbered and yet still manage to survive. They are not uber leet PVPers throwing ships away to camps and blobs daily (how ship loss makes one good at PVP I am not sure) but they certainly are out there taking risks.
It's also possible to be averse to risk and be a PVPer. 4-5 man teams that have run from me because they simultaneously feared "being the one KM" of their group expecting that I could take one with me are a good example. People running from fairly even fights to run back with heinous overkill is another example we see commonly complained about.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
321
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Posted - 2013.01.03 19:49:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: (how ship loss makes one good at PVP I am not sure)
It's not the act of losing the ship. It's what you learn in the process - what mistakes not to make; what tactics were successfully used against you; what a well-run ambush looks like; etc.
Yes, you can learn those from the other side, but nothing teaches so fast as being caught in a mistake.
Otherwise, excellent point. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.01.04 00:55:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Quote: If you want to get into PVP the worst thing you can do is try it solo. There is no such thing like solo PVP. Maybe if you have multiple accounts. Every PVP is multiplayer experience, or two players, but not solo. That is what makes it worth your time. You may opt to be solo. That is no guarantee that those you fight will be.
silens vesica wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: (how ship loss makes one good at PVP I am not sure)
It's not the act of losing the ship. It's what you learn in the process - what mistakes not to make; what tactics were successfully used against you; what a well-run ambush looks like; etc. Yes, you can learn those from the other side, but nothing teaches so fast as being caught in a mistake. Otherwise, excellent point.
That requires being able and willing to both acknowledge that you made a mistake in the first place (as opposed to blaming those damn blobbers/falcon alts/lag/anything but you) and be able and willing to examine what happened and find out what your mistake was.
It's a quality many players and indeed many people actually lack. You may know me better as Corestwo: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/corestwo
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Karrl Tian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2013.01.04 03:49:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:It's possible to be a risk-taker and be a carebear. You find them in nullsec operating alone. I am not referring to some botter safely behind the gank pipelines ratting with a carrier, I refer to the loners wandering about, knowing always they are outgunned and likely outnumbered and yet still manage to survive. They are not uber leet PVPers throwing ships away to camps and blobs daily (how ship loss makes one good at PVP I am not sure) but they certainly are out there taking risks.
Last time I checked, evading someone's attempt to catch you counts as player-versus-player. Sure they'll call you a carebear for not diving into their bubble camp, but that's just frustration talking. |
Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
372
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Posted - 2013.01.04 03:51:00 -
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Oxxe Radak wrote:I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?
What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over.
I made the jump while I was still a carebear. Joined in with the Pinked alliance during their brief stay in Geminate.
Then I returned to highsec and lost my tengu to awoxers shortly after. I Endorse this Product and/or Service EVE Online Battle Recorder When I press F1 I get ISK |
Revman Zim
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
75
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Posted - 2013.01.04 04:03:00 -
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Back in 2009, I was with a hi-sec corp with an indy/WH toon. Lots of mining ops, manufacturing... etc. We would go do a WH every once in a while. I was the ultimate Missioning/Mining/Manufacturing carebear. At the time I had about 17million SP, so I had been playing for over a year.
The corp was war-decced (I can't remember why, but there was a reason) and everyone just docked up. Myself and the CEO decided to give PvP try since we had the opportunity in hi-sec. I undocked in a T1 frig with a web and a scram and was playing games with a WT on a station. My buddy was one system away in a BS ready to jump in to apply the DPS. When he was ready, I closed range, webbed and scrammed and screamed in chat to warp to me (no... we did not use voice comms). We ended up killing a Navy Slicer before I was into structure.
Afterwards, I was shaking from the adrenalin rush and decided then and there I was changing my game style. I flushed that toon and never looked back.
Unfortunately, it took awhile to get back into the game. RL got in the way, since I was Active Duty Navy and deployed alot, I waited until I retired so I could dedicate the required time to a good PvP Alliance in null. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
393
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Posted - 2013.01.04 05:23:00 -
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I moved to 0.0 7days after I started playing. Just a mindset How the **** do you remove a signature? |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
325
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Posted - 2013.01.04 10:20:00 -
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mynnna wrote: That requires being able and willing to both acknowledge that you made a mistake in the first place (as opposed to blaming those damn blobbers/falcon alts/lag/anything but you) and be able and willing to examine what happened and find out what your mistake was.
It's a quality many players and indeed many people actually lack.
Fair point, but I'm willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group Eternus Imperium Alliance
124
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Posted - 2013.01.04 13:26:00 -
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I worked my way into being a good miner with a hulk i could fit t2 then i got war decced
lost miserably to a better player it forced me to change career paths in the game and concentrate on combat skills ran into a friend that asked me if i wanted to join destiny alliance and try 0.0 i loved 0.0 and the fighting
but i also learned rule number one for a noob in 0.0 never fly what you can't afford to lose
pay attention to your local and intel channels above all and be on the alliance vent or teamspeak etc when un docked
also its not considered paranoia its a healthy awareness of your surroundings
you will lose ships at first but a good crew will train you til it happens less often
and that first kill will make you feel like a GOD but don't get cocky remember you are part of a team and you need to do your part I would recommend you first learn to tackle and fly fast frigs and interceptors to start don't try jumping in a battleship until you are proficient at every class below it and can fit it T2 battleship is OK for ratting but for a pvp noob its a flying coffin
most of all don't get discouraged over losses its all a learning experience and ask those with more experience in your group for help they were all where you are at some point
Good luck |
Amiazia Patrouette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.05 21:10:00 -
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I just wanted to thank everyone in this thread for your inspiration. I've been playing for a tiny 8 days or so. I've done most of the agent missions. I mine to make money and build a little nest egg. I've played many MMO's going back to the original UO but never got into PvP. I started playing EVE because I knew there was no consenting to PvP and that your "life" was in danger as soon as you undock. I liked that feeling. However, living in high-sec is starting to get a little boring. I want the action. If I get podded or killed, so be it. I've been playing with the idea of getting into PvP. I just never knew the "path". To me, EVE is about survival. I've got to learn somehow.
Thank you all. I think I'm about to fit a ship and go see what kind of trouble I can get into. |
Lexmana
834
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Posted - 2013.01.05 22:11:00 -
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Amiazia Patrouette wrote:I just wanted to thank everyone in this thread for your inspiration. I've been playing for a tiny 8 days or so. I've done most of the agent missions. I mine to make money and build a little nest egg. I've played many MMO's going back to the original UO but never got into PvP. I started playing EVE because I knew there was no consenting to PvP and that your "life" was in danger as soon as you undock. I liked that feeling. However, living in high-sec is starting to get a little boring. I want the action. If I get podded or killed, so be it. I've been playing with the idea of getting into PvP. I just never knew the "path". To me, EVE is about survival. I've got to learn somehow. Thank you all. I think I'm about to fit a ship and go see what kind of trouble I can get into. Thats the spirit. I recommend joining the militia and try to get into a fleet ASAP. That will get you into trouble very soon. Good luck and fly unsafe. |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
147
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Posted - 2013.01.05 22:12:00 -
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I was far too old, over a year when i finally started and realized that sp or ISK do not matter.
I started my PvP with Factional Warfare. And back then it was broken but still very funny and worth it. From what i hear they fixed it a lot, so may be it is even more fun now. The only thing that matters is a setup that makes sense and some knowledge of the game mechanics. But you don't need them to start.
Some facts if you want to start PvP:
- You will die a lot - You will make stupid mistakes - You will die a lot
But you will learn with time how to avoid death, how the game mechanics work and what module combination work in a good setup that fits the role you play.
Start with small cheap ships only T1 stuff. They have their roles and in FW there are even complexes where only frigates can enter. So back then we got some good pure frigate fleet fights which is fun like nothing else. Also cheap like hell you don't need to run mission to finance that losses.
Also in FW is in lowsec. That means no bubbles, so your pod will survive many engagements.
There are also fleets up sometimes if not all the time. They always need some tackler frigates. |
Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
89
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:32:00 -
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Now that I think about my transition from the safety of highsec to doing PvP in lowsec, it's more gradual than it has seemed.
In my first days I mined in a probe. Then I realized missioning was more engaging and made a better profit so I did that. Missioning didn't hold my interest for too long either so I got into exploration. All this took about two or three months.
But all this time I was aware of factional warfare and that "militia office" button that called to me every time I docked. So while my friends were running missions in their hurricanes and slowly getting bored of EVE Online, I joined the minmatar militia. I even happened to join at a time when certain people were running fleets that any militia member could join. These were not high-quality fleets but better than nothing.
Through these fleets I met the right people and learned the basics of PvP. At first I lived in highsec and went to lowsec to do PvP with my fellow militia members until eventually I moved into lowsec permanently, only going to highsec for business. I blobbed and took part in fleets for quite a while, got used to PvP and found a place for myself.
As time went by I grew tired of taking orders and having a fleet commander decide when I should warp or shoot. So after disobeying some orders during fleet fights and having my first solo kills amongst the chaos of fleet battles, I started doing solo PvP. Very quickly I found that I got a much more intense rush from solo PvP and I enjoyed the hunt whenever I was tracking down a potential target with my d-scan. Now my problem was that FW could not satisfy my needs. War targets were moving around in fleets that I had to avoid while neutral pilots were ratting in the belts, running missions and looking for fights.
The first time I killed a neutral pod was in Gratesier, next to an island of highsec systems. That kill gave me the most liberating feeling I've experienced during my EVE career because it meant I no longer cared about sec status. I was free.
That's what I'm still doing, only a little better than back then. At least I hope so... |
Amiazia Patrouette
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:38:00 -
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I took the advice and joined FW. Fitted my ship and headed out from my "safe home" a few jumps to take a FW mission. That mission was 20+ jumps, half being in my Faction and the last half going into enemy territory....ending in enemy low-sec. At first I looked at the map and thought, "oh this is not gonna end well". I went for it. Made it to my mission location, completed my mission (that was a pain in the rear end), and headed back. I made it. I made it unharmed. Just the rush alone from traveling in enemy low-sec, 0.2, was awesome. I know it's not null-sec but I get the idea now.
After that, I decided to go for a trip. I adjusted my map to show where the most ships have been killed in the last hour and went for a ride. It is my honest opinion that there are a whole crap load of people that are missing out on the best part of EVE. But it is ok.
Thanks folks. I just had my best EVE experience to date. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:36:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Otrebla Utrigas wrote:What I don't understand is what does people with all the money they make while in carebear mode? ... I jumped the fence when I asked myself "Well, I have a Raven Navy and I can earn 20/25 mill isk per hour killing rats... now what??"
I share your view. However there're people having fun in stockpiling resources and money, so the ISK capital is for them the meter of their game progression. Nothing bad in this, it's a gamestyle legit as any other, and have to be respected (mostly consdering it's the gamestyle of the larger part of playerbase). It's the nature of sandbox games: everyone can decide and set his ingame goals.
It seems several folks have the idea that carebears are rolling in the dough... I've been a carebear for years and while I do have a few shinies, i'm by no means rolling in the dough as I see constantly alluded to in similar posts.
this toon and my other newbie toon will be going into the PvP arena just to see how the other half lives (to coin a phrase) but in all honesty i don't see where these implications of carebears all being quadrillionaires and crap comes from.
:) Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
700
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:28:00 -
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Oxxe Radak wrote: What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump? .
In my case two years, just because i was focused on discovery EvE and things while easy chill mode game style, before i start pvp i was miner,explorer,trader, but while i was focused on pve somtime on occasion i do pvp like kling ore thiefs while i was in pvp fited mining barge just for lulz ;)
I enter (real pvp) after like 2 years, reasons above, hovewer its possible to enter pvp immediately, using some cheap tacle ship, or cruiser with small friend fleet or corporation.
Personaly i dont have a lot kills on this character its not pvp focused but i got around 800 kills on occasion on other my characters during 6 years in EvE.
In general i prefer pve style and pvp on occasion. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
Cannibal Kane
Chosen of New Eden
1197
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:30:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Quote: If you want to get into PVP the worst thing you can do is try it solo. There is no such thing like solo PVP. Maybe if you have multiple accounts. Every PVP is multiplayer experience, or two players, but not solo. That is what makes it worth your time.
I am the exception. I like going after targets on my own. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:03:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:You seem to believe that pvp players can't be carebears ... i think of carebears as those that will only do things that they are sure they'll win at ... that is a good portion of the eve player base.
Most of them really. I could name a few, but all you'd have to do is check my killboards to find them. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
74
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:13:00 -
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Oxxe Radak wrote:I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?
What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over.
Hi there,
Darwinian evolution - competing for foodstuffs - in my case ISK from Radar and Mag sites as an explorer - when there are too many explorers and not enough sites you eventually have to try and kill the competition.
So i hid in my radar site and killed the guy who was also scanning the system to take 'my' stuff . You will punch the air with delight when you get a planned solo kill and then there is no going back.
In my case - a late developer with 20,000,000 SP - BUT most of them irrelevant to the eventual PVP.
Hope that encourages you. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
654
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:19:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Oxxe Radak wrote:I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?
What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over. My first pvp experience was about 3-4 months after I started playing, I took a Harbinger from high sec to low sec and got killed by a frig :D this was long ago... I had been convinced to join a high sec corp that was mission and research... I regret this to this day... as people like that are very risk averse... I now have the most fun ever, flying around in expensive frigs zooming around huge fleets that would kill most people :D, best feeling ever There's an important lesson to be learned from Bubanni - specialize.
Don't just specialize in terms of where you spend your SP but specialize in terms of gameplay: pick one role, one ship class, even one single ship type and use it every. single. day until you are good at it.
Each ship and each role has a learning curve attached to it and most players give up long before they become effective at using it.
If you just put in the time to become really good at one thing then those without the patience to learn will regard you as a miracle worker.
Bubanni in his Stiletto, ShortySVK in his Slasher, Mark Hadden in his bomber, ... look at the top of class waffle grads and you will find many examples of focus & specialization paying off ten-fold (of course your focus doesn't have to be one certain shiptype, it could also be FCing one type of gang, ...). I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
3147
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:20:00 -
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How do you make the jump? You just ******* do it, stop making excuses. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
74
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:22:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Bubanni wrote:Oxxe Radak wrote:I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?
What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over. My first pvp experience was about 3-4 months after I started playing, I took a Harbinger from high sec to low sec and got killed by a frig :D this was long ago... I had been convinced to join a high sec corp that was mission and research... I regret this to this day... as people like that are very risk averse... I now have the most fun ever, flying around in expensive frigs zooming around huge fleets that would kill most people :D, best feeling ever There's an important lesson to be learned from Bubanni - specialize. Don't just specialize in terms of where you spend your SP but specialize in terms of gameplay: pick one role, one ship class, even one single ship type and use it every. single. day until you are good at it. Each ship and each role has a learning curve attached to it and most players give up long before they become effective at using it. If you just put in the time to become really good at one thing then those without the patience to learn will regard you as a miracle worker. Bubanni in his Stiletto, ShortySVK in his Slasher, Mark Hadden in his bomber, ... look at the top of class waffle grads and you will find many examples of focus & specialization paying off ten-fold (of course your focus doesn't have to be one certain shiptype, it could also be FCing one type of gang, ...).
I agree entirely - some may find it boring but I just fly the cloaked Pilgrim ( hoping it doesn't get nerfed of course because then you are in a pickle) The number one benefit of specializing is that you will eventually know exactly what you CAN'T do or what is a waste of time trying to do in your particular role.
Your skill points aren't as important as practise - which gives experience, leading to knowledge and eventually wisdom - but don't look at my loss mails....
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March rabbit
Aliastra
471
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:32:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote: There's an important lesson to be learned from Bubanni - specialize.
Don't just specialize in terms of where you spend your SP but specialize in terms of gameplay: pick one role, one ship class, even one single ship type and use it every. single. day until you are good at it.
Each ship and each role has a learning curve attached to it and most players give up long before they become effective at using it.
If you just put in the time to become really good at one thing then those without the patience to learn will regard you as a miracle worker.
Bubanni in his Stiletto, ShortySVK in his Slasher, Mark Hadden in his bomber, ... look at the top of class waffle grads and you will find many examples of focus & specialization paying off ten-fold (of course your focus doesn't have to be one certain shiptype, it could also be FCing one type of gang, ...).
specialization is for sportsmen. Do you play game or you compete with someone? If so where is criteria of win/lost? How do you compare SB pilot with FC? Who is more succesfull?
I guess it's a lot better to just have fun of game you paid for. You like to mine? Ok. Do it until you bored. You like to missions? Great. Do it until you bored. You like to fly SB? Maybe FCing gangs? Great! But after some time you will get bored (unless Eve Online is some kind of job for you). And why don't try something new?
You moved from perfect SB to slasher and got stupid funny lossmails? Nice! You have something to show to your friends when you are bored to get some good laughs. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:14:00 -
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Amiazia Patrouette wrote:Thank you all. I think I'm about to fit a ship and go see what kind of trouble I can get into. EVE. You're doing it right.
EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
83
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:26:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:there was a time.... EvE was a different world years ago (back when we walked to school 8 miles in the snow etc ) I had done the trial and gotten blown up in a reaper in a 0.4. I tried hauling and got ganked by Tiller trying to slowboat the 15km to a gate in low. Then i moved to derelik. I stumbled upon someone mining which seemed like a good way to make some cash, got talking to him, joined his corp. At the time you could realisticaly get away with mining in low sec and we struck an agreement with local pirates in a 0.3 not far from Doril to let us mine in peace. Some pilots were outside the local sphere of influence however. I forget the guys name but he was in a corp called Ascendo Tuum with 2 other pilots one of whom was called 'Helen'. This guy would occasionally show up and blow someone up. At this point in (well certainly in my) EvE history a battleship was an expensive bit of kit. I got sick of this dude and engaged him during a mining operation. We had 2 mining fit battleships and a mining fit battlecruiser. It went the way you would expect. so I decided: if you cant beat em join em. I pestered my way into Ascendo Tuum but they folded days later as its plots moved on to bigger things. I returned to my birth system and one jump over I found miners. I flipped their cans. A pilot from a corp called 'suicide girls' engaged me and I blew it up. The buzz was unreal. I then solo roamed low sec in various crap fit caracals and Feroxes picking fights. The multispec ECM was a massive help in this as you could take on maybe 3 pilots solo and cycle your ECM to escape or limit damage, break webs and scrams. I won a fair few fights. During all this time EvE was changing. Fights in low sec invariably ended in 5 or 6 ships arriving to take on my 1 Eventually I stumbled into Bosboger and started a fight with a local pirate from a corp called Vale Heavy Industries. The name was misleading as Vale were pirates. He won the engagement but asked me to join his corp which I did. I spent many happy years with Vale. We formed one of the first pirate alliances - the Molotov Coalition. Steadily targets in low sec dried up. Vale moved into mercenary work and also did a stinit in TDE as part of a null alliance. Eventually i sent a emo message to Vale along the 'thanks for all the fish' lines. That was an epic corp. Ever since then I have largely operated solo trying to recreate my hayday in EvE. I find it ard to see the point of doing anything except player vs player combat in EvE but my niche disappeared a long time ago. There was a time.
Reading posts like this make me wish I had gotten into Eve much earlier than I had. I've heard stories of the glory days where pirates honored ransoms and (more importantly) did it for the ransom instead of the fucktards we have today who are all killboard obsessed asshats. It is a shame that honorable ransoms have gone the way of the dodo (at least in my experience they have). The stories I have heard/read about the early days of Eve make me think that it was a lot more fun than the Eve we have today (this isn't to say that the Eve we have today isn't fun, it just isn't as fun as I imagine the early days were, granted I wasn't there though) I agree with the following assessment of the Mining Barge Buff and as a reformed "Greed-fit", High-sec AFK miner, I think that is saying something. -áMining Barge buff: CCP has acknowledged that miners in general are too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:28:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Most don't go from "carebear" to "pvp'er" and then only PvP the rest of their careers.
Most mix the two at varying degrees thoughout their careers.
This. I like to explore low/null and have not pvp'd on tranq for some time now but doesnt mean I wont in a second Oderint Dum Metuant |
Garreth Vlox
Shield and Shovel Mining Corp
116
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:01:00 -
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Oxxe Radak wrote:I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?
What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over.
I started out mish running in empire, then decided I liked the isk opportunities in null sec better and moved out there at about 4 months into this char for the plexing and mining and in the process flew in a few pvp fleets and realized how much more fun/exciting/tense that was and started doing it more often, I will probly never be a pvper only, but plexs and missions will never compare to pvp.
As far as you not having a chance in pvp, your mostly right in a one on one dog fight against a vet you will lose, but you can still tackle his ship while your corpies kill him. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11122542 <- im the frig The LULZ Boat. |
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