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Lt Hole	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:26:00 - [1] I would be curious to see how many players have been the target of non-consensual PvP and how it has affected their opinion of Eve. Did it sour you on the game? Did you accept it and move on? Did you like the game even more? Etc...
Karazaan	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:32:00 - [2] Originally by: Lt Hole I would be curious to see how many players have been the target of non-consensual PvP and how it has affected their opinion of Eve. Did it sour you on the game? Did you accept it and move on? Did you like the game even more? Etc... That's a philosophycal question, you will have as many answers as there is players in eve (target of pvp or not). If you are yourself recently victim and looking for a mystical answer, there is none. Like in RL, nobody can give you answers to theses questions except religions which have dogmas written from before writting was discovered... I would say, like everything else, get over it... Fear is your enemy, kill it now before it spread to other parts of your life. I'm very very pessimistic in RL, don't even get me started on the end of the world. Karaz
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:34:00 - [3] I once bought a module off the market that was 21% above the regional average. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
ElDiablo	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:36:00 - [4] I dont even use ships, I just fly in my pod only. Its a better way of seeing the solar systems since it has a nice window to see out of....
Clementina	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:37:00 - [5] My answers to these questions are no, yes, and no. I don't get emotional about any particular battle, win or lose. What pleases me more is unfolding of a campaign, and being a part of that. Fortinately, I've had the good fortune of only being ganked by somewhat honorable players, as opposed to the sucicide kestrals on the modern 'pirate'.
O'knar	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:39:00 - [6] Yes, yes, and yes. I've been soured on zerospace, I've accepted the fact that I'll probably die every time I go there (or at least lose my ship), and as a result I plan to be able to roam zerospace freely, killing at will, striking fear into the hearts of all who see me.
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.06.14 21:43:00 - [7] Yes Yes and Yes here. I got killed really early on, left the game angrily, then came crawling back like everyone else who leaves the game and chose to approach it with a more mature attitude than when I left. Now I love it. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:02:00 - [8] I once got ganked in an indy while approaching a gate in empire. It was very upsetting, I cried for days.
Viceroy	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:02:00 - [9] Hi, my name is Viceroy and I'm a victim of non-consentual PVP -
Galk	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:04:00 - [10] Only problem i forsee in the future is where does eve go when all the real pirates go off to play pirates of the burning sea Seriously this poll is rather useless, i was once told people have the freedom to do as they wish.... I didn't exactly concent to a torrent of f's and b's on my screen, nor was there a way to block it either... but atleast i got a reason why.... It's pvp, it's eve, it's a golden ticket to do what you wish.... There are no rules in war.... YArrrrrr ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Hydroponica	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:04:00 - [11] Have I been a target of non-consensual pvp? Yes Did it sour my view on the game? No, was no secrst that Eve had non-consensual PVP when I signed up. Did you accept it and move on? Yes, it's part of the game I wouldn't change for the world. Did you like the game even more? YES!!!!! Non-consensual PvP is a huge part of what makes eve great. Stay in a nub corp, and make sure the number in the upper-left hand corner never goes below .5, and you'll be fine ********************************* Silly Rabbit, **s are for Chicks
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:13:00 - [12] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 14/06/2005 22:16:51 Edited by: Gamer4liff on 14/06/2005 22:15:00 as one of the few people here not in a bloody 0.0 alliance with a massive ego problem, i can say with clarity ive been a target before, but it taught me a valuable lesson. I didnt like it more, It momentairally ***ed me off. i did move on however. (lost a badger mk 2 to some HoW rat gatecamping in a raven) it taught me mostly to travel lowsec by nightfall. (this happened about 1 month after i started)
OffBeaT	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:16:00 - [13] i dont like getting me pod shot, but i dont give a dam about my ships for the most part. i can always afford too lose a ship or two. its them fliping implants that juice me. i just stoped using them, problem over! only ship/gunnry aid implants i use now.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:19:00 - [14] It made me like the game more: i wanted to be an evil sonofa just like the guy that killed me... ended up joining his corp and being an outright pirate ------------------ Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine
Peri Stark	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:26:00 - [15] Got podded twice in 0.0 at gate trying to travel to help mates. Got ganged by pirates at 0.4 gate and podded. Lost cruiser to pirate BS while minding my own business. Had merc groups declare war on my mining and research corp and I was the first to die. All in the first 3 months. The net result = I met a couple nice mercs and I have been training weapons skills ever since. Die and learn. Its part of the game! ================================================ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Claude Leon	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:33:00 - [16] IMHO, once you enter the EVE universe, then you are a target for PvP. You have the tools to avoid it. ===================================================
Scorpyn	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Lt Hole I would be curious to see how many players have been the target of non-consensual PvP and how it has affected their opinion of Eve. Did it sour you on the game? Did you accept it and move on? Did you like the game even more? Etc... If you are not looking for a fight, but you are enjoying the fact that you may be attacked at any time and you feel the adrenaline pumping as you avoid your possible enemies, would that make it consentual or not? A long time ago, before I was a pirate, the corp I was in at the time was attacked by pirates. It was "unconsentual", but at the same time it wasn't really anything we were actually bothered by since we understood and accepted the risks. A while later we joined the dark side
Luther Devos	Posted - 2005.06.14 22:57:00 - [18] Did it sour you on the game? No Did you accept it and move on? Yes Did you like the game even more? Definetly!!! -_-
Maxine Stirner	Posted - 2005.06.14 23:07:00 - [19] I went through all 5 stages of grief following one such senseless experience until I finally accepted that I am a different person than my predecessor. Now, with renewed empathy, I pity such assailants for their living suffering and psychological torment. I now seek spiritual enlightenment and my material concerns have shifted though I share many opinions with my predecessor - who was nice enough to leave me a bunch of neat stuff afterall. Life is something valuable, but only in its fullest state. Thus, though I pragmatically support the development of defensive technology, I also advocate technology and politics which encourages communication even more stongly. Locking Times & Evil Asteroids
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2005.06.14 23:13:00 - [20] Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 14/06/2005 23:14:09 Originally by: Lt Hole I would be curious to see how many players have been the target of non-consensual PvP and how it has affected their opinion of Eve. Did it sour you on the game? Did you accept it and move on? Did you like the game even more? Etc... 1. No. It made me want to fight back. Which I did and do. The only thing that "soured" me was m0o's blockade of Curse ages ago (like before the CA formed). That didn't sour me on EVE, but it sure soured me on the bist mining we'd been running out of that system :P 2. Depending on the situation. Sometimes I got together a gang to whack the guy/guys. Sometimes I ran like hell to keep my pod in one piece. I certainly didn't quit the game or anything in frustration. 3. No. I can't see how I'd like the game even more cuz I got attacked when I didn't feel like a fight. I must say though that I enjoy the game more than I used to now that PvP is a larger part of my overall game plan. I must say, though, that as an experienced eve-player, I find it's a lot harder to GET a fight than it is to avoid a fight. All I needed to avoid fights when I needed to was a 2nd account, with a noob alt in a shuttle. Suddenly, I was unkillable :P BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
PAPA	Posted - 2005.06.14 23:20:00 - [21] Edited by: PAPA on 14/06/2005 23:20:26 Well ill ask you this...... how many of you saw the pvp vids of EVE and said i want that game ? none of you saw a mining vid and said lets have it when all the old skool pvpers go, EVE will have lost out.
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.06.14 23:38:00 - [22] Originally by: PAPA Well ill ask you this...... how many of you saw the pvp vids of EVE and said i want that game ? I like the way this guy thinks. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Lt Hole	Posted - 2005.06.14 23:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Viceroy Hi, my name is Viceroy and I'm a victim of non-consentual PVP Good one. *****ed me up. Here's my two cents... I was ganked. I quit for a bit. I came back. I learned to PvP. I had a blast. Looks like that's about normal. Thanks for the feedback all!
Delta23	Posted - 2005.06.15 04:04:00 - [24] I think that PVP is what makes the world turn. personally i would rather kill a PVP,er then a inocent industrial ship Players like wan kur, God, and other confederates as them selfs. I think if they love to kill so much why dont they go after real talent, guys that have been in the game for a few years like them selfs Becuase they are all smoke and no fire!! thats why!! they like to take down easy targets becuase they are to simple to try the big guns! I am glad you can do as we do and blow them off thats what eve is all about.
Lorth	Posted - 2005.06.15 06:16:00 - [25] I have been a victum of two non-consensual PVP encounters in my life. The first was when I was but a wee noob, the other fairly recently. Both were my fault and completly avoidable, just I did some dumb things. Did it sour you on the game? The first one no. Actually I loved it, I think its its still in the top 10 moments I have had in eve to this day. The second one, bothered me a fair bit. Not because of a ship loss, but because I screwed up and let it happen. I saw the situation develop, I knew what was going to happen, and did nothing to avoid it. Did you accept it and move on? First one, yes. It was worth the loss for the ammount of fun I had during the 30 seconds or so of the battle. Said 'grats' in local, and grabbed anouther ship to hunt the guy. The second one I grumbled about for a day, because I was 36 jumps from empire with no insta's, implants, and missed a few good fights. Other then that no, it was a ship loss big deal. Did you like the game even more? Of course, thats why I joined a PVP corp.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.06.15 07:40:00 - [26] Did it sour you on the game? At the time yeah, bearing in mind that new characters work quite hard to save up for the next tier of ship. Did you accept it and move on? Yup, I mean it was my own fault. Sitting in a belt in 0.3, innocently asking two HUFF members to help me destroy a Guristas Transport. But you learn and move on. Did you like the game even more? Well, at the time it ****ed me off no end. But now I've buffed up from that 7st weakling and can now properly defend myself against your average rat in the street. ex P-TMC If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Griefer Sutherland	Posted - 2005.06.15 07:42:00 - [27] You are playing an online multiplayer game, there is no non-consentual PvP in this game. Topic closed.
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.06.15 07:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Griefer Sutherland You are playing an online multiplayer game, there is no non-consentual PvP in this game. Topic closed. You have the best alt name I saw all day. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.06.15 08:19:00 - [29] Originally by: Griefer Sutherland You are playing an online multiplayer game, there is no non-consentual PvP in this game. Topic closed. *incert han solo saying "i didn't sign up for this!"
Fredbob	Posted - 2005.06.15 08:47:00 - [30] Did it sour you on the game? No Did you accept it and move on? Yes Did you like the game even more? Yep Bein shot down in a cruiser by a blasterthron in low sec made me want to get damn good at combat ships, not just mining/ratting but peeveepee . These days I find it hard to go out to rat/mine as I'd rather go out looking for PvP - and that my friend is what being ganked can do for a guy ___________ ~Fredbob~

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