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Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:37:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This thread will run for one week, until 17:00 on Wednesday, December 5th, after which I will close it. I will then gather responses, opinions, questions and feedback from it, before forwarding it on to the Senior GMs for review, who will then provide a response. Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2235632 It's been more than a month since that thread was locked, and we're a week into 2013. Isn't it time we got an update on this? It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 571	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:43:00 - [2] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: This thread will run for one week, until 17:00 on Wednesday, December 5th, after which I will close it. I will then gather responses, opinions, questions and feedback from it, before forwarding it on to the Senior GMs for review, who will then provide a response. Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2235632 It's been more than a month since that thread was locked, and we're a week into 2013. Isn't it time we got an update on this? Edit: Rule 24 Off topic posting is prohibited - ISD Tyrozan
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1172	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:44:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. It's been less than a month since the new year. Have some patience maybe? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 571	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:45:00 - [4] - Quote Also, IBTL. You don't talk about miner bumping on these forums. (hits bong) Yeah, it violates some kind of rule or something. The one that says you don't talk about miner bumping. Edit: Rule 24 Off topic posting is prohibited - ISD Tyrozan
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:46:00 - [5] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. It's been less than a month since the new year. Have some patience maybe? Only 12 months in a year. I can't think of a reason that the GM team should have to take a sixth of a year to decide whether or not you're allowed to bump into mining ships. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1174	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:50:00 - [6] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. It's been less than a month since the new year. Have some patience maybe? Only 12 months in a year. I can't think of a reason that the GM team should have to take a sixth of a year to decide whether or not you're allowed to bump into mining ships. Wait, what? It was clearly stated that "a response may take some time to be issued, and may (keyword there, may) end up arriving just after the New Year." This is not an exact date, no promises were made, so keep your shirt on and have some patience. You're like a dog with ADD that won't let his master at least get his shoes off before jumping all over him and humping his leg. It hasn't taken a sixth of a year, but if that's how long it takes, then that's how long it takes. Deal with it. Okay? Cool. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Tali Ambraelle Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 180	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:53:00 - [7] - Quote This is their attempt to further publicize their organization. Do not reply to the thread, and it will die. Belligerent undesirables have no place in demanding anything from anyone. Learn your place, filth.
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1174	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:54:00 - [8] - Quote Tali Ambraelle wrote: This is their attempt to further publicize their organization. Do not reply to the thread, and it will die. Belligerent undesirables have no place in demanding anything from anyone. Learn your place, filth. I don't think anyone has a place making demands, I tend to find making demands is what makes people belligerent undesirables in the first place. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.01.07 14:57:00 - [9] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Tali Ambraelle wrote: This is their attempt to further publicize their organization. Do not reply to the thread, and it will die. Belligerent undesirables have no place in demanding anything from anyone. Learn your place, filth. I don't think anyone has a place making demands, I tend to find making demands is what makes people belligerent undesirables in the first place. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I was demanding a response from CCP. More like politely requesting an update in the slightly belligerently undesirable fashion that is the norm in this forum when discussing CCP's failings. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1175	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:00:00 - [10] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Tali Ambraelle wrote: This is their attempt to further publicize their organization. Do not reply to the thread, and it will die. Belligerent undesirables have no place in demanding anything from anyone. Learn your place, filth. I don't think anyone has a place making demands, I tend to find making demands is what makes people belligerent undesirables in the first place. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I was demanding a response from CCP. More like politely requesting an update in the slightly belligerently undesirable fashion that is the norm in this forum when discussing CCP's failings. I didn't accuse you of making demands, just correcting a very presumptuous comment, but you certainly weren't as polite as you could have been. "Isn't it time to get an update?" v. "Is it possible to get an update?" - mostly, your wording could have been better if you were aiming for polite. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.

Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:04:00 - [11] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: you certainly weren't as polite as you could have been. "Isn't it time to get an update?" v. "Is it possible to get an update?" - mostly, your wording could have been better if you were aiming for polite. Well, it's obviously pretty subjective, but wouldn't you say that 'When will there be an update?' is almost completely neutral in terms of politeness, and therefore above average for this forum? It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1175	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:09:00 - [12] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: you certainly weren't as polite as you could have been. "Isn't it time to get an update?" v. "Is it possible to get an update?" - mostly, your wording could have been better if you were aiming for polite. Well, it's obviously pretty subjective, but wouldn't you say that 'When will there be an update?' is almost completely neutral in terms of politeness, and therefore above average for this forum? Perhaps. I'm pretty pedantic about language, and I've studied semiotics, so sentence structure and word use are something I, from time to time, read a little too deeply into. I didn't think you were trying to be impolite, but to me, it came across as very impatient. I can't say you rose above the average of these forums at all. In fact, I can't say I'm surprised at all to see a thread like this going up. There are definitely acceptable standards of what can be considered "polite" in any given culture. If we left it entirely up to what individuals thought was polite, I think you'd find that plenty of people would just use "it's all subjective" to excuse being as impolite as possible. If you were aiming for polite, you did miss the mark, but only by a fraction really. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 714	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:10:00 - [13] - Quote there's a 'forum' petition category that probably has a pretty short queue
Estella Osoka Deep Void Merc Syndicate 23	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:10:00 - [14] - Quote There's a miner bumping issue?
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:11:00 - [15] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: If you were aiming for polite, you did miss the mark, but only by a fraction really. Awww, thanks Estella Osoka wrote: There's a miner bumping issue? Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2235632 It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1176	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:17:00 - [16] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: There's a miner bumping issue? The real issue is the shortage of Kleenex for pubbies. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
baltec1 Bat Country 4693	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:22:00 - [17] - Quote Its fine, Its been fire for the last 10 years, it doesn't break the rules, it has never broke the rules, stop whining about every little setback you suffer and look after yourselves.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6272	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:47:00 - [18] - Quote Honestly, it'd be prudent to simply let it die if they decided that miner bumping isn't the problem that it's made out to be on the forums. If they announced "we decided that miner bumping isn't a problem" you'd have a ton of whining, ~New Order~ victory posts and other noise that is just unnecessary. ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 545	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:54:00 - [19] - Quote Andski wrote: Honestly, it'd be prudent to simply let it die if they decided that miner bumping isn't the problem that it's made out to be on the forums. If they announced "we decided that miner bumping isn't a problem" you'd have a ton of whining, ~New Order~ victory posts and other noise that is just unnecessary. I'd hate to see CCP promise an official decision and then back up on that promise, though. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Psychotic Monk The Skunkworks 480	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:54:00 - [20] - Quote I expect that participating in emergent gameplay through bumping will be declared an exploit. Couldn't have someone effecting someone else's game now, could we? Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

TheBlueMonkey Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance 332	Posted - 2013.01.07 15:56:00 - [21] - Quote You people are angry that people are bumping into you now? Jesus
Randolph Rothstein whatever corp. 302	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:02:00 - [22] - Quote posting in locked thread is fun a source with knowledge of this situation told me it will be decided thats its an exploit and everyone will be permabanned retroactively
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2307	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:04:00 - [23] - Quote Psychotic Monk wrote: I expect that participating in emergent gameplay through bumping will be declared an exploit. Couldn't have someone effecting someone else's game now, could we? I can see it now. Park a freighter in front of the Jita Undock or Perimiter gate and get everyone who bumps you banned. Mmmm... the tears. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 3267	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:06:00 - [24] - Quote Honestly, you are fortunate that they are even considering the issue rather than dismissing it out of hand. Any "fix" to this issue is going to be touching on aspects of the physics engine that will involve a huge amount of development time, and potentially cause issues in everything from combat to undocking from Jita. This isn't something to be taken lightly. I don't think anyone would object if the physics of bumping in game were made more realistic, however that has little or nothing to do with people considering the bumping of miners to be a serious issue. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Bing Bangboom Ded End Damage Inc. United Sytems Against Terrorist Opperations 96	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:23:00 - [25] - Quote 1st RULE: You do not talk about MINER BUMPING. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about MINER BUMPING. Highsec is worth fighting for. Bing Bangboom Agent of the New Order of Highsec Belligerent Undesirable
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 362	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:23:00 - [26] - Quote I have nothing against bumping at all, but the mechanic should be modified to account for ship mass, IMO. Frigates trying to bump a freighter should be like throwing raisins at an Oldsmobile.
Lord Leftfield The Society Calyxes 73	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:26:00 - [27] - Quote I woke up hearing something about bumping, so i logged in and started mining.
Kla2 Defiance LLC Fade 2 Black 14	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:30:00 - [28] - Quote A while back my corp needed some minerals and went a-mining. These folks showed up and started bumping us and others .......kinda just made us pay attention. didnt cause us any problems and we just worked around it. The next day we went mining again and the bumper guys didnt show up. really boring. Almost messaged them to see if they would come bump us. How is this a problem, unless you are AFK?
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 571	Posted - 2013.01.07 16:53:00 - [29] - Quote Edit: Rule 7 - Trolling is prohibited. - ISD Tyrozan
Khergit Deserters 615	Posted - 2013.01.07 17:04:00 - [30] - Quote Edit: Never mind, Ranger 1's post #24 said what I was going to say. Posting Before Reading, Class A-- pleading guilty as charged. 'The difference between you and me is, I know I'm crazy.'-á -The late Jack H.-- old Texas guy, professional fish poacher, wise man



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