I want to hurl corpses at dustbunnies. The splat of defrosted corpses hitting the ground is more of a psycological victory than anything.

Because open beta.
I want Dreadnaught shells to be fired at my Dust bunny.

Mizzile trails are too awesome for dust bunnies to experience.....

Given the distance I will not even try to use torps, neither cruise missiles too expensive for rabbits.

I am just curios, why have missiles been omitted from the orbital bombardment ammo? I know guns are more instant but come on every other weapon type is represented.

Lasers
Hybrids
Projectiles

The only one that is being ignored here is missiles and Id like to know why, I mean a missile strike from orbit isn't that insane an idea.

Because open beta.
I want Dreadnaught shells to be fired at my Dust bunny.

I think it's the right time to bring this video back :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

What is it ? Where does it comes from ? Why CCP never talked about it ? It's been posted 6 years ago ! :D

DUST BUNNIES hahahah HAHAHAHHA from now on...

Does this mean orbital bombardment missions will be referred to as 'bunny bombing'?

I like "Bun Runs" but bunny bombing has a nice ring to it as well :P

My biggest question is whether we can Orbital bombard a fight without a dust bunny calling for it. Just get a popup with a map and fire at random.

I want to hurl corpses at dustbunnies. The splat of defrosted corpses hitting the ground is more of a psycological victory than anything.

You want to gank consolekids ,you know that does not end well .

I think it's the right time to bring this video back :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

What is it ? Where does it comes from ? Why CCP never talked about it ? It's been posted 6 years ago ! :D

You defrost them? OK, that's just sick.

My biggest question is whether we can Orbital bombard a fight without a dust bunny calling for it. Just get a popup with a map and fire at random.

This... oooh, please, PLEASE, this. *muwahahahahaaha*

Yes this

In Samuel Jackson voice while bombing random planet's bunnies: "Welcome to Eve Mutha F**Kers"

I vote Orbital Bombardmant Leviathan.

At least it'll be useful for one thing other than Bridging. 'Course, I'm not sure how much fun it'll be for the DUST Bunnies to suddenly be playing on a flat sheet of glass.

I demand the ability to use obscure market items as well as plain ol' ammunition to conduct orbital bombardment. Drop a bunch of livestock on someone, maybe.

I think it's the right time to bring this video back :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

What is it ? Where does it comes from ? Why CCP never talked about it ? It's been posted 6 years ago ! :D

Missile Bombardment mechanics are already in game.

Moon probing could act as the template.

Shot the Missile and wait for a mail 5 or 10 minutes later saying you missed the target but took out an orphanage in a near by town.

I think it's the right time to bring this video back :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

What is it ? Where does it comes from ? Why CCP never talked about it ? It's been posted 6 years ago ! :D

I demand the ability to use obscure market items as well as plain ol' ammunition to conduct orbital bombardment. Drop a bunch of livestock on someone, maybe.

I am just curios, why have missiles been omitted from the orbital bombardment ammo? I know guns are more instant but come on every other weapon type is represented.

Lasers
Hybrids
Projectiles

The only one that is being ignored here is missiles and Id like to know why, I mean a missile strike from orbit isn't that insane an idea.

Probably something to do with Velocity and distance. No point in firing a volley of missiles to bombard a planet well after the battle has ended and everyone has moved on.

They could have a projected missile though. A triple stage idea, where the first round travels out very quickly, then separates and fires a second stage into atmosphere, which then separates and launches a 3rd stage at the target area in the form of 9 gravity assisted projectiles or something.

We don't require some stupid clearance code to engage a player in eve. If there are two parties fighting each other, you can fly up and shoot whoever the hell you want without them giving you permission. Hell you can even shoot both parties. I want that level of freedom with DUST too, as I understand it they can shootback with anti-space weapons. Let's have some good ol orbit-ground wafare instead of just arial assault support.

Please don't give CCP another reason to nerf Titans again. They are already **** as it stands, may as well just chop them from the game.

I also agree on the whole fire at will stance. I want to have the ability to randomly fly up to a planet and bomb the hell out of it without some stupid command codes. Why? Because EVE is a sandbox and in a sandbox you would be able to do pretty much any action. If they think they can take my destroyer out with their planet side doomsday beam...go for it!

We don't require some stupid clearance code to engage a player in eve. If there are two parties fighting each other, you can fly up and shoot whoever the hell you want without them giving you permission. Hell you can even shoot both parties. I want that level of freedom with DUST too, as I understand it they can shootback with anti-space weapons. Let's have some good ol orbit-ground wafare instead of just arial assault support.

Yes lets grief all the dust players out of the game before it even launches, seems like a good plan...

To be honest I want to do strafing runs in my Rifter!

Possibly whilst waving a blast pistol out of the cockpit (ok small convenient hatch in my pod) whilst yelling 'Yeah yeah Get some, c'mon, WOOOOO!!!!!)

To be honest I want to do strafing runs in my Rifter!

Possibly whilst waving a blast pistol out of the cockpit (ok small convenient hatch in my pod) whilst yelling 'Yeah yeah Get some, c'mon, WOOOOO!!!!!)

I predict big problems with the start of DUST.
There are simply too much bored capsuleers that have been waiting for ages to carpet bomb planets into the stoneage and too few dustbunnies.
There will be ten times as much ships bombarding the planets as there will be Dust bunnies, every planet will turn into instant totalhelldeath and every dustbunnie will die instantly when he sets foot on a planet.
Heed my words...

People expecting to be able to just rock up to a planet, shoot a few rounds at it to sterilise a game being played by 30 or 60 DUST players with no way to anticipate or retaliate, and then trololol away into the sunset are going to be tragically disappointed.

The match would be over before the missile hit....

Because open beta.
I want Dreadnaught shells to be fired at my Dust bunny.

People expecting to be able to just rock up to a planet, shoot a few rounds at it to sterilise a game being played by 30 or 60 DUST players with no way to anticipate or retaliate, and then trololol away into the sunset are going to be tragically disappointed.

From what I understand, the Dust bunnies do get stuff to shoot back at the ships bombarding them. And I'm guessing that there's a warmup timer.

So I don't think anyone's asking for what you seem to think we're asking for. We just want the ability to join the fun uninvited.

Ain't happening dude. Malcanis is spot-on

From what I understand, the Dust bunnies do get stuff to shoot back at the ships bombarding them. And I'm guessing that there's a warmup timer.

So I don't think anyone's asking for what you seem to think we're asking for. We just want the ability to join the fun uninvited.

DUST 514: The Arrival of Instances to the EVE Universe.

And anything in a BRAND NEW GAME that does more than skuff up the paint job on those ships in low that will be shooting at them will be a sign of a STUNNINGLY IMBALANCED game co-existence. You think people ragequit (failquit) over the non-sense from last summer, just wait until a dread is killed by some 2-week old DUSTbunny sitting in-atmosphere on a temperate planet.

I rather look on it as it's hard to pin point a target on the ground without coordinates, so there isn't really any point to spraying shots at an entire planet hoping to hit someone.

DUST 514: The Arrival of Instances to the EVE Universe.

And anything in a BRAND NEW GAME that does more than skuff up the paint job on those ships in low that will be shooting at them will be a sign of a STUNNINGLY IMBALANCED game co-existence. You think people ragequit (failquit) over the non-sense from last summer, just wait until a dread is killed by some 2-week old DUSTbunny sitting in-atmosphere on a temperate planet.

I rather look on it as it's hard to pin point a target on the ground without coordinates, so there isn't really any point to spraying shots at an entire planet hoping to hit someone.

And anything in a BRAND NEW GAME that does more than skuff up the paint job on those ships in low that will be shooting at them will be a sign of a STUNNINGLY IMBALANCED game co-existence. You think people ragequit (failquit) over the non-sense from last summer, just wait until a dread is killed by some 2-week old DUSTbunny sitting in-atmosphere on a temperate planet.

You're saying that we can move faster than the speed of light, lock onto beacons light years distant, have homing missiles able to hit ships that are randomly dodging at several kilometers per second, but we can't hit a football field on the surface of a planet from orbit?

By the end of the Apollo missions, the splashdowns were generally within a kilometer of their target, and that's for something intentionally taking more time in the atmosphere (time=deviation) than would be necessary for a shell because of the whole not wanting to kill the astronauts thing.

And you're saying that we can't lock onto a Football field and fire straight down at it from orbit? With Gravity helping us?

You aren't trying to hit a football field, your target is considerably smaller than that and is often within spitting distance of friendly forces.

More to the point, game play issue trump real life. You know this.

It's almost like randomly nuking the planet would kill millions if not billions of civilians who live on that planet.
I mean, these are TEMPERATE planets.... i.e. New Earths.
It's not that we 'couldn't' technically fire at the planet. It's that the game is not set up to even consider automating mass murder on a planetary scale, so it's prohibited in the base capsule code.
It's only now there are Dusties with tactical beacons allowing for pinpoint accuracy that the capsule code has been relaxed allowing us to fire at a beacon.

If you wanted to balance the drive by effect of having players fly up, bombard, and skip merrily into the sunset without dust bunnies having a chance to defend themselves, you could always apply a timer drawback to the bombardment ammo so that if fired your ship is unable to warp for say 2 minutes? I don't know its an idea. I mean if you commit to nosing your way into a fight, it stands to reason your ship cant leave orbit for set amount of time to allow them a chance to retaliate.

If you wanted to balance the drive by effect of having players fly up, bombard, and skip merrily into the sunset without dust bunnies having a chance to defend themselves, you could always apply a timer drawback to the bombardment ammo so that if fired your ship is unable to warp for say 2 minutes? I don't know its an idea. I mean if you commit to nosing your way into a fight, it stands to reason your ship cant leave orbit for set amount of time to allow them a chance to retaliate.

I'm asking to be able to throw darts at the dartboard that happens to be directly beneath me. (And have the dartboard fire some nice big darts right back at me.)

But you are throwing the dart over a distance of some 300km, with winds blowing all the way, with thermic problems due to friction, and last but not least with the dartboard below you just spinning out .. since the world is turning ... wtf .. just google 'Coriolis'.

Ballistic Missiles are accurate to the meter or so, and those go through that turbulent atmosphere twice.
The Apollo missions reentry was aimed from orbit around the Moon, and generally got within a kilometer (and they hung around in that turbulent atmosphere for a heck of a lot longer than an artillery shell would need to).

You're literally saying that hitting the ground at the bottom of the gravity well you are in is difficult.

EVE != Real life

ThereGÇÖs a number of reasons for missiles being an inappropriate delivery mechanism of tactical orbit-to-ground munitions. For one missiles are easily countered by Planetary Defence Systems. On the other hand, the maximum velocity of a ballistic missile descending from orbit without tearing itself apart is relatively so low that it would take minutes for it to reach the ground. This could be solved by manufacturing missiles with a built-in micro-warp drive, but that would cause the manufacturing price of the missile to sky-rocket, and besides, utilizing a warp drive so close to a planet surface is at best an interesting experiment and at worst catastrophic.

Such a sad day for missiles :( they truly are become a dead weapon. What with recent nerfs and now omission from orbital bombardment? Looks like the favoritism for guns just keeps growing. Guess I'll go change my skills over now before missiles become nothing more than glorified fireworks.

As for indiscriminate carpet bombing of planets, well not without the dust guys having the opportunity to defend themselves.

As for indiscriminate carpet bombing of planets, well not without the dust guys having the opportunity to defend themselves.

I am just curios, why have missiles been omitted from the orbital bombardment ammo? I know guns are more instant but come on every other weapon type is represented.

Lasers
Hybrids
Projectiles

The only one that is being ignored here is missiles and Id like to know why, I mean a missile strike from orbit isn't that insane an idea.

Nobody's asking for the ability to shoot someone who's game mechanically barred from shooting back (though, from my understanding, that's what Orbital bombardment is). We just want you to hurry up and give prepared Dusties the ability to shoot back really effectively and give us the ability to take potshots at battles in progress (with big guns aka make the Leviathan useful again).

Missiles aren't used for bombardment, you yourself say guns.

Maybe the ragnarok?

Chillax guys and gals. Sit back, watch what eveolves. There will be more functionality incoming. It could be fun

The tactical strike is the first of the orbital bombardment types. We plan on adding missiles, larger weapon systems and variation to the mechanic. We will also be extending it beyond faction warfare when those battles in Dust become available.

As for indiscriminate carpet bombing of planets, well not without the dust guys having the opportunity to defend themselves.