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TheLegion
No Matter The Cost
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.11 05:55:00 -
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First off, I can't really stand mining, but was wondering why the game never implemented a capital hull sized mining barge. That either used capital sized strip miners, or something to that effect. Is it because belts would be farmed more easily or something else?
Just was bored and figured I'd toss it out there. Personally I think it would be kind of cool to see a massive capital beamin it's way through veldspar, etc. :)
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Veronica Kerrigan
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.01.11 05:58:00 -
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I believe ideas about what kind of ships should be made should be in Features and Ideas subsection. I would be fine with a capital mining barge under the following condition: 10 minute siege cycle that gives no more than 175-200% yield of a hulk, but outside of siege it would be nearabouts useless. |
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:04:00 -
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I always thought it'd be cool to see a cap mining ship that literally "ate" the 'roids. Engulf the 'roid in a massive front bay, "siege" for a time, then bang, you get the whole yield. |
Navarre Blackmoor
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:12:00 -
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Oh god. Enormous mining spaceship. YES.
Afterall. Flying big things is why we play, right? |
GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:14:00 -
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so long as it can cloak, align in under 5 secs, and fits inside a small POS people will use it, otherwise no one ever will.
joking aside, i like the idea of a heavy duty mining platform that can only fly in null. one of the problems of null/low extraction is that yields are as crap as they are in high, the only advantage is having a roq giving bonuses. yet, i think the real reason mining sucks in null is because of refining yields, and the low yield of low ends, and outposts that suck for pretty much everything but spinning your ship.
i can live with the low yields, since we can hit that spodumain rock forever and it wont die. but whats the point of getting mins if anything smaller than a super is better manufactured in high sec? |
W3370Pi4
Comel Technology
99
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:19:00 -
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lol IT will never happen
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Hannah Flex
Elite Market PvP Consortium
83
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:21:00 -
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Because 99% afk/botted strip mining/resource gathering isnt already a thing? |
TheLegion
No Matter The Cost
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:21:00 -
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It might and probably will never happen, but it would make nullsec mining more tempting if they were able to drop their big shiny on it I would imagine.
Maybe it's the little carebear heart inside of me that just simply would love to see it lol. There is capital versions of all types of ships, besides the mining barge. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:24:00 -
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Um. No. And I'm an industrialist.
Adapt or Die |
TheLegion
No Matter The Cost
Nocturnal Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:30:00 -
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but are you an industrialist in nullsec? |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:33:00 -
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TheLegion wrote:but are you an industrialist in nullsec?
The more you minerals you mine the less they are worth. Hence no capital mining lasers. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:TheLegion wrote:but are you an industrialist in nullsec? The more you minerals you mine the less they are worth. Hence no capital mining lasers.
Though, if it were Null only and CCP fixed the Hidden Belt's mineral proportions, it would make Null mining worth more than HS mining again*. (Oh, how the HS Miners would Howl.)
*Null mining would likely not increase much in ISK/hr, ofc. HS Mining (and all Hulk mining) would simply plummet depending on adoption levels.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2371
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:19:00 -
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You just want that ship, from that Star Trek movie, that big one........ OK I was drunk out of my gourd when I saw it. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:20:00 -
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TheLegion wrote:First off, I can't really stand mining, but was wondering why the game never implemented a capital hull sized mining barge. That either used capital sized strip miners, or something to that effect. Is it because belts would be farmed more easily or something else?
Just was bored and figured I'd toss it out there. Personally I think it would be kind of cool to see a massive capital beamin it's way through veldspar, etc. :)
If you get that then industrialists should get a captial ship. basically it would be a floating POS with manu and sci slots.
Or we could put it all together and I can live my world destroyer fantasies by having a super capital mining vessel that you can manufacture off. In goes roids, out goes flotillas of rifters. Bonus points if you can make them pre fitted - ready for pilots to take up and fly into the enemy blob. |
Daimon Kaiera
Get Off My Lawn
144
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:TheLegion wrote:but are you an industrialist in nullsec? The more you minerals you mine the less they are worth. Hence no capital mining lasers.
Unless you horde them all and they become worth the same or more because they're "rarer." (Even though they'll respawn in a day.)
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:24:00 -
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Rorqual |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:24:00 -
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Needs Capital Mining Lasers.
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Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:30:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Needs Capital Mining Lasers.
Most excellent. Veldspar will be eliminated in no time with a concerted effort! |
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:53:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:TheLegion wrote:First off, I can't really stand mining, but was wondering why the game never implemented a capital hull sized mining barge. That either used capital sized strip miners, or something to that effect. Is it because belts would be farmed more easily or something else?
Just was bored and figured I'd toss it out there. Personally I think it would be kind of cool to see a massive capital beamin it's way through veldspar, etc. :)
If you get that then industrialists should get a captial ship. basically it would be a floating POS with manu and sci slots. Or we could put it all together and I can live my world destroyer fantasies by having a super capital mining vessel that you can manufacture off. In goes roids, out goes flotillas of rifters. Bonus points if you can make them pre fitted - ready for pilots to take up and fly into the enemy blob.
That's actually a really cool idea. Big floating assembly line. Siege it out to build, maybe toss in a cloak mount and goovats for clones.... |
GreenSeed
147
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:00:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:baltec1 wrote:TheLegion wrote:but are you an industrialist in nullsec? The more you minerals you mine the less they are worth. Hence no capital mining lasers. Though, if it were Null only and CCP fixed the Hidden Belt's mineral proportions, it would make Null mining worth more than HS mining again*. (Oh, how the HS Miners would Howl.) *Null mining would likely not increase much in ISK/hr, ofc. HS Mining (and all Hulk mining) would simply plummet depending on adoption levels.
this.
who cares if mineral prices crash. if null can bulk mine, it will remain profitable, while HS gets nerfed indirectly. also bulk mining means less mining, not more.
high sec miners wont complain, and in fact they might actually support the idea of a capital miner, until they find trit at 2 - 3isk. by then it will be already too late. |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:10:00 -
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Im all for it
more mins mined = cheapers mins = cheaper ships for explosions
my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:44:00 -
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psycho freak wrote:Im all for it
more mins mined = cheapers mins = cheaper ships for explosions
This.
The easier it is for people to grind for their PvP the more they can get out there. |
MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:05:00 -
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Lovely Dumplings wrote:I always thought it'd be cool to see a cap mining ship that literally "ate" the 'roids. Engulf the 'roid in a massive front bay, "siege" for a time, then bang, you get the whole yield.
This ... i love! Makes me think of a Blue Whale munching through through a field of Krill ... you could even name the ship some derivative of the latin name of the blue whale |
baltec1
Bat Country
4729
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:10:00 -
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I used to champion for better mineral prices for miners. We even went out of our way to force up the prices and remove entire fleets of bots. What did miners do to thank us for the best prices they have ever seen? 8 months of none stop whining about it was unfair that we were killing their untanked ships and a poorly balanced barge update that removed an entire section of gameplay so they could have their risk free afk mode rock munchers. After they started demanding bumping to be nerfed they lost all respect. Dragging them back down to 1 isk a unit for trit sounds like a great idea so sure, give us capital mining lasers. We gave them the good prices so we might as well be the ones to take it off ghem again. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
Brosefs.
100
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:34:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I used to champion for better mineral prices for miners. We even went out of our way to force up the prices and remove entire fleets of bots. What did miners do to thank us for the best prices they have ever seen? 8 months of none stop whining about it was unfair that we were killing their untanked ships and a poorly balanced barge update that removed an entire section of gameplay so they could have their risk free afk mode rock munchers. After they started demanding bumping to be nerfed they lost all respect. Dragging them back down to 1 isk a unit for trit sounds like a great idea so sure, give us capital mining lasers. We gave them the good prices so we might as well be the ones to take it off ghem again.
Griefer Tears over the fact they need two destroyers to gank most barges now, not one. How terrible for them :P
That said, I really have no issue with capital mining ships, they provide a better 'end game' for a miner, which also leads naturally into null.
Yet I'm pretty sure it won't have a significant impact on mineral prices at the same time because of the training time to get into a Capital ship vs a barge, and the number of barges out there mining every day vs the number of cap ships. |
Dave stark
1493
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:47:00 -
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are we talking, freighter/orca style cap ship?
or carrier style cap ship?
aka, can we fly it in high sec?
if we can't fly it in high sec just prepare to see a drop in high ends and no real difference to low ends.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Aaden Dante
Circle Four
10
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:54:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:are we talking, freighter/orca style cap ship?
or carrier style cap ship?
aka, can we fly it in high sec?
if we can't fly it in high sec just prepare to see a drop in high ends and no real difference to low ends.
Give it compression capabilities like the Rorq. Then watch WH Indy's dance for joy. |
Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
1
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:57:00 -
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As a capital asset that corps/alliances could commit in 0.0, it could work to get those huge amounts of low-ends needed.
Without an industry revamp for 0.0 tho, it would just be a waste of time.
And absolutely needs to have a siege cycle, so a support fleet is needed. If not, it's just another bot account waiting to happen. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
32
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:57:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:are we talking, freighter/orca style cap ship?
or carrier style cap ship?
aka, can we fly it in high sec?
if we can't fly it in high sec just prepare to see a drop in high ends and no real difference to low ends.
Super Carrier Style Cap Ship, with capital mining Lasers and Cruiser Sized Mining Drones and Mining Drone enhancement modules to launch at least 10 of those little babies at once.
And it'll only be toped by the Mining Titan and the Mobile Mining POS.
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Dave stark
1494
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:00:00 -
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Fanatic Row wrote:As a capital asset that corps/alliances could commit in 0.0, it could work to get those huge amounts of low-ends needed.
Without an industry revamp for 0.0 tho, it would just be a waste of time.
And absolutely needs to have a siege cycle, so a support fleet is needed. If not, it's just another bot account waiting to happen.
nope, they'll just carry on mining the high end minerals because A) it's easier, and B) it's more economical to mine the lucrative ores, sell what you don't need, and purchase what you do need.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
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