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Allen Deckard
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Posted - 2005.06.24 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Miri Tirzan Yet another thread of "I want every one to play my way or not play at all!" Why dont you just play your way and leave the rest to play thiers?
This is the bit you just don't get, isn't it? Everything you do in this game effects other players to a greater or lesser degree. Your 'they aren't hurting anyone, leave them alone' viewpoint is blinkered and naive.
I agree with miri myself. Please explain how it effects your game play in .0 when someone does a mission in empire. Does it effect the price of items? Maybe of tech 2 bpo's but not by much effect the population of .0? Not by much most those doing lvl 4's don't want to pvp or not pvp every time they log in. If your going to make a blanket statement explain why you think someone is so wrong. I am currious.
Personally I have never actually seen anyone explain how lvl 4's effect "their" gameplay besides complaining that someone else is making more isk than them.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Allen Deckard Please explain how it effects your game play in .0 when someone does a mission in empire
I am not in 0.0 space.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Derisor
pffft ... spoken like an empire dweller. I have lived in empire and I have lived in 0.0 and I tell you that 0.0 is ooodles harder just to live.
Likewise, lived in both. Funny, isn't it?
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Psym0n
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Derisor Now personally i have a hard time with level 3s but then Im not a battleship driver so that is probably why.
I can do lvl3's solo in an assault frigate......only one i have troulble with is "The Score" because of the webbifyer that warp scrambles me.. _________________________________
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:19:00 -
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Im glad tho to read that populating 0.0 is one of the developers bigest aim with the upcoming patch.
In the end after following ccp's changes to the game over quite some time. I can only say that they have proven to put in the best changes at the best time. And i dont see any reasons for them to not beeing able to do so again.
-- Lady Beeblebrox
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir I like the idea. lvl 2 agents @ 0.5+ lvl 3 agents @ 0.1-0.4 lvl 4 agents @ 0.0
But hey, that'd force people to have a risk while making money, and we all know people don't like risk/reward. Carebears
Shock horror.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:47:00 -
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most obvious problem with this plan: there are NO stations in 0.0 for agents to work out of. Sure, there are a handful of pirate stations, but those already have agents. So, basically, the devs would have to add dozens, or even hundreds of stations to house all the agents, stations which have no RP reason to exist there. Or did you want all the agents to be from pirate factions and have hundreds of agent runners crammed into the same systems to such an extent that Nonni and co. as they are currently populated would then look deserted in comparison?
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir I like the idea. lvl 2 agents @ 0.5+ lvl 3 agents @ 0.1-0.4 lvl 4 agents @ 0.0
But hey, that'd force people to have a risk while making money, and we all know people don't like risk/reward. Carebears
That is the worst idea ever in the history of bad ideas.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress D'Malice I think most people on both sides would be ok if they just made lv4 missions completely NOT soloable. No matter the ship or skills...you need a group of 3-5 people to finish them or something.
As it is now, agent runners in 1.0 space are completely safe and run no risk other thenthe mission itself. For the risk vs. reward ratio...who wouldn't run missions? If it wasnt so damn boring.
They can do this when they split agent rewards between the players. Until then - no!
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Poca Hontas
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Poca Hontas on 25/06/2005 07:49:58
Originally by: Jane Vladmir I like the idea. lvl 2 agents @ 0.5+ lvl 3 agents @ 0.1-0.4 lvl 4 agents @ 0.0
But hey, that'd force people to have a risk while making money, and we all know people don't like risk/reward. Carebears
brilliant idea...not lack of stations in 0.0 almost every part of 0.0 is claimed by some group no sense to put empire agents in pirate stations
but from a kcfos member i expect nothing else than a suggestion that would bring tons of easy targets to gank
ppl like you are the true carebears for whining about it that much and loud
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Gerome Doutrande on 25/06/2005 07:50:39
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: MOOstradamus No. Shut up.
Word, though if possible id like that lvl 4 security agent from the FIO in Ours moved to low sec space 
there is a very decent kill mission agent in uphallant for you, which fortunately also gives something else than small arms as bonuses. 
edit: and no don't move agents to 0.0 space.
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Engelious Angelion
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Posted - 2005.06.25 11:12:00 -
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i can't see why any one has a problem with level 4 missions, removing Level 4 missions to 0.0 is totally the wort idea, with the worst arguments ive ever heard...
but you know what i'll make you a deal!
if the ore types from 0.0 becomes avalible in empire then FINE! you can have level 4 missions, no prob.. i'll just go mine Zyr!....
but as is, alliances and PvP people are the once in 0.0
IM NOT a pvp player, and i Enjoy the game type in empeire, i mine, Trade and do level 4s... and for me that's great fun.
I have no desire having to worry about who's gonna pod me as im returning with my mission loot in a hauler, or whos gonna pod me in my raven wich is down to hull after having to jump out of a mission!
but sure let's do the trade Empeire gets the rare ores, and 0.0 gets level 4's and well soon see who'll be complaining like CARZY becourse they arnt earning enoughf isk... and then the thread will read MOve the ores to 0.0 *lol*

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Avon
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Posted - 2005.06.25 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Engelious Angelion i can't see why any one has a problem with level 4 missions, removing Level 4 missions to 0.0 is totally the wort idea, with the worst arguments ive ever heard...
but you know what i'll make you a deal!
if the ore types from 0.0 becomes avalible in empire then FINE! you can have level 4 missions, no prob.. i'll just go mine Zyr!....
but as is, alliances and PvP people are the once in 0.0
IM NOT a pvp player, and i Enjoy the game type in empeire, i mine, Trade and do level 4s... and for me that's great fun.
I have no desire having to worry about who's gonna pod me as im returning with my mission loot in a hauler, or whos gonna pod me in my raven wich is down to hull after having to jump out of a mission!
but sure let's do the trade Empeire gets the rare ores, and 0.0 gets level 4's and well soon see who'll be complaining like CARZY becourse they arnt earning enoughf isk... and then the thread will read MOve the ores to 0.0 *lol*

Read the info for the next patch - rare ores are comming to Empire space. You going to stick to your word? ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay. |

nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.06.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Engelious Angelion i can't see why any one has a problem with level 4 missions, removing Level 4 missions to 0.0 is totally the wort idea, with the worst arguments ive ever heard...
but you know what i'll make you a deal!
if the ore types from 0.0 becomes avalible in empire then FINE! you can have level 4 missions, no prob.. i'll just go mine Zyr!....
but as is, alliances and PvP people are the once in 0.0
IM NOT a pvp player, and i Enjoy the game type in empeire, i mine, Trade and do level 4s... and for me that's great fun.
I have no desire having to worry about who's gonna pod me as im returning with my mission loot in a hauler, or whos gonna pod me in my raven wich is down to hull after having to jump out of a mission!
but sure let's do the trade Empeire gets the rare ores, and 0.0 gets level 4's and well soon see who'll be complaining like CARZY becourse they arnt earning enoughf isk... and then the thread will read MOve the ores to 0.0 *lol*

Read the info for the next patch - rare ores are comming to Empire space. You going to stick to your word?
Now avon trace amounts are not what he means and you know it...
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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