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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.06.24 17:55:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Aoun
Gonna have to ask the question everyones really wanting to ask..
Are they any good at mining!?
XL Miner II's!?
One sec...
*picks up baseball bat*
*walks into Aoun's room*
*closes door*
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.06.24 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aoun
Gonna have to ask the question everyones really wanting to ask..
Are they any good at mining!?
XL Miner II's!?
maybe funny but they seem to have cargo space of a hauler and 3 turret mounts, with 8 low slots expect to see these babies at an asteroid belt afk mining lol.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.06.24 18:01:00 -
[93]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Citizen Angstrom
I hope the skill requirements are placeholder stats.
No, I don't have BS 5, Spaceship Command 5, every-damn-skill 5.
I have been diligently saving up my Isk for one of these monsters, and I doubt I'll be the only ****ed off pod pilot who realises it's going to be months before he can get inside a Dread! 
Why would they be placeholder stats? Every pvper who is even considering getting into a capital ship should have those already. If you don't you're either too newb for a dread, or not a pvper.
Or a small ship pilot :P
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Remedial
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Posted - 2005.06.24 18:51:00 -
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Did nobody get a showinfo on the Gallente Dread?
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Capt Rob
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Posted - 2005.06.24 18:56:00 -
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Well im not sayin the minitar one is any good but i think they failed on the gallente dread, looks like some sort of large bubble mass
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Zhartok
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Posted - 2005.06.24 19:17:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Aitrus
Originally by: Aoun
Gonna have to ask the question everyones really wanting to ask..
Are they any good at mining!?
XL Miner II's!?
One sec...
*picks up baseball bat*
*walks into Aoun's room*
*closes door*
hahahaha, good one Aitrus. 
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Cosmic Dragon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 19:56:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Zhartok
Originally by: Aitrus
Originally by: Aoun
Gonna have to ask the question everyones really wanting to ask..
Are they any good at mining!?
XL Miner II's!?
One sec...
*picks up baseball bat*
*walks into Aoun's room*
*closes door*
hahahaha, good one Aitrus.
Gets some kives and enters Aouns rtoom to finish it
Seriously tho this is an interesting question can dreads with there huge fitting rooom can they fit strip miners now thats an intereesting question tho i still shudder at the image of seeing a dread mining in empire
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.06.24 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Rob
Well im not sayin the minitar one is any good but i think they failed on the gallente dread, looks like some sort of large bubble mass
I think you overlooked the line that says the graphics are screwed up on that ship, but they brought it out anyway.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.06.24 20:39:00 -
[99]
Also, I trust you all spotted this little gem in the killmail.
Quote:
Type: Siege Module I (Fitted - High slot)
Thus we now know why they have an extra high slot, and how going into siege mode will be accomplished. Any guesses on what skills will be required to use a Siege Module?
That's not a moon...
that's my POS |
zincol
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Posted - 2005.06.24 20:59:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Ranger 1
Also, I trust you all spotted this little gem in the killmail.
Quote:
Type: Siege Module I (Fitted - High slot)
Thus we now know why they have an extra high slot, and how going into siege mode will be accomplished. Any guesses on what skills will be required to use a Siege Module?
Thats what that strothium pos crap is for...
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.06.24 21:38:00 -
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I think BS 5 is a bit much but beyond that I like it. I mean its easier to set up and build a pos then it is to take them down or train for the ships to do so.
I see no reason as to why 14-16mil sp pvper who doesn't have bs 5 should be barred from flying one of these things. I have Caldari,Amar and Minmatar bs 5 but i think it blows monkey chunks that POS are just so damn hard to take down and the ships to take them down require so many ******* sp its stupid.
Everyone wants the next "BS" but would hate it being over powered or in high distribution. I feel the same way but from the standpoint of seeing things as they are it will take 5-8 hours off of the time it takes to down a full operational pos right now the fastest time i heard it took to take out a fully operational pos with max defenses was 2 days of constant pounding.
POS are overpowered and everyone knows it. Everyone wants the tools to take them out but they have to make a choice having a ship that deals a butt load of damage that may only 4 people on average in a corp could fly or having a ship that deals more damage then a bs but not as much the aforementioned ship but the ability to have more people flying them.
Inshort get more for your sp (making them an elitist ship) or get less for your sp but spend less sp(making them less elitist but resulting of there being more of them).
Personally I favor the last one cuz whenever a Dreadnaught will be spotted in space it will basically be a case of "Sink the Bismark".
I mean **** TITAN's had been on Chaos/SISI for months before the "Titan Event" but that didn't stop everyone from trying to go kill it eventhough they knew they couldn't.
IMO Titans,Dreads and Freighters have a bigger bulls eye painted on them then a Mk.5 with 27% cargo expanders loaded to the gills with Morphite.
But thats my opinion and if you think its sheet
then thats fine.
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Drommy
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:50:00 -
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i agree cos i dont have bs lvl 5 and i want one
 will sell soul for a gellente dread
<bs lvl 4 50 days for lvl 5ing bs is not my idea of fun btw
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:50:00 -
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these things seem beefy enough to last in a fleet battle long enough that if it was primary target to take out 1 or 2 ships and get to warp. this whole the the other 40 BS that aren't taking fire are popping BSs left and right. I see dreads as the flagship to a fleet say 1 for every 30-40 BS
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Kain Raksha
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:54:00 -
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cant u just see a dread, going into high sec space... aligning to warp/jump or w/e... killing EVERYONE, while tanking concord and jumping out... it could at least take on sentries in lower sec space... if not concord ships themselves. 
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard
i think it blows monkey chunks that POS are just so damn hard to take down and the ships to take them down require so many ******* sp its stupid.
I believe POS were made uber so that people can set them up, learn about them and make some isk. I'm pretty sure they are going to nerf POS defenses when they bring Dreadnoughts as they would probably still own a Dread the way they are now.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:21:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
i think it blows monkey chunks that POS are just so damn hard to take down and the ships to take them down require so many ******* sp its stupid.
I believe POS were made uber so that people can set them up, learn about them and make some isk. I'm pretty sure they are going to nerf POS defenses when they bring Dreadnoughts as they would probably still own a Dread the way they are now.
I think the Siege Module I that TomB had fitted in a high slot was there for countering the extrme ranges POS defence can fire at...
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:24:00 -
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By the way, anyone want to take bets on how long it'll take Winterblink to make a WDA on the Gallente Dread picture?
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:25:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Drommy
<bs lvl 4 50 days for lvl 5ing bs is not my idea of fun btw
If you can afford a dread then you can afford +5 implants 
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Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:11:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Maxine Stirner on 25/06/2005 01:11:31
Well, a dread really shouldn't be something a person own, but what a corporation owns. And when a corp operates one, they hire a specialist to fly it, which means a dedicated Amarr, Caldari or etc. pilot.
At least, that is the logic unless cruisers and frigs are more or less impervious to all but xl smartbombs. Then I wouldn't mind seeing Dreads in high circulation if I knew they generally had a specific purpose in mind. Disposability on the part of Starbases I wouldn't mind, provided they were developed to be disposable. Currently, they don't serve as much of a base of operations, nor will the new constructed stations unless they have some nice perimeter defense.
Locking Times & Evil Asteroids |
EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:19:00 -
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lvl 5 BS is too high :(
just bring that to lvl 4 plsss
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Mephisteus
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:36:00 -
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To keep them rare, quite simple :)
Only have them as an agent special deal (this would be the best solution in my opinion).
Or have them limited on a corp basis. 1 per 60 members or something. Though favouring my first solution.
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:58:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Mephisteus
To keep them rare, quite simple :)
Only have them as an agent special deal (this would be the best solution in my opinion).
Or have them limited on a corp basis. 1 per 60 members or something. Though favouring my first solution.
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eve does not need more agient only content!
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Aralis
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Posted - 2005.06.25 02:21:00 -
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Absolutely! Agents are way too profitable. The biggest problem with gameplay now is how agents encourage everyone off to effectively solo play.
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.06.25 02:45:00 -
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not wanting to depress all of the ppl whining about BS 5 being a pre req but if u look at screenies of the required skills it lists advanced spaceship command 5 as well. from what i can see thats a rank 10 skill and will therefore take 20% longer than BS5.
have a nice day
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Kelhund
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:08:00 -
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As for it being agent only: HELL F*CKING NO! It's already enough of a pain in the butt to get anything off of them, not to mention the innumerable number of bugs that have plagued them since before I came into the game a couple of months before Exodus comes out. As for BS 5....cant really complain, but thats just cause my Army unit will be in the field for a month or so in August anyway, so that'll be time put to good use with BS 5....I also halfway expected it to happen anyway, and I personally think a mining Apoc or Large Barge is bad enough, much less a Dread raping every belt in a .4 system for the zyd....
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lkanhfkljha
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Posted - 2005.06.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: mimik
not wanting to depress all of the ppl whining about BS 5 being a pre req but if u look at screenies of the required skills it lists advanced spaceship command 5 as well. from what i can see thats a rank 10 skill and will therefore take 20% longer than BS5.
have a nice day
Pretty sure its Rank 5 bud, its a shorter train :)
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Mental Oriental
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Posted - 2005.06.25 06:36:00 -
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yeah its rank 5 from what i saw on sisi
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.06.25 06:42:00 -
[118]
Make these only slightly less rare than a CN Raven and I'll be happy.
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:12:00 -
[119]
my mistake - looked at screenie from freighters and it was caldari freighter skill shown on same screenie that had the 10X multiplier
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Aldanor
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:23:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
True, at least from my point of view. I was in a Raven with a T2 AB, orbiting the Naglfar (Minnie Dread) at 7.5km and the citadel torpedos hit me for next to nothing (I took 3 hits -- 0 hp, 12 hp, 13 hp).
Doubt the turrets will hit any bs under 100km that have over 50m/s transverse either....
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