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Derisor
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:53:00 -
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Which do you think is the best for corporate communication and why?
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infused
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:58:00 -
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TS:
* Easier to use * Better codecs * I just fine it plain better than V
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Armetheus
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:00:00 -
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Personally I prefer Ventrilo's sound quality over that of Teamspeak, and it lags alot less generally. I use both in day-to-day activities, but would take Ventrilo over Teamspeak
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Ryles
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:00:00 -
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Vent. cos it has that robot chat thingy 
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:12:00 -
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Used both so far. Seems like TS can handle more ppl but Ventrilo has the way better Sound quality.
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Kalil d'Maelstromo
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:19:00 -
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Yeah have used both a lot for FPS clans and community's. TS is more hackable, more channels etc but Vent is much clearer. unfortunatley with Vent youneed to pay unless you find a copy of the v.2.1.4 I think it was which was the version before they asked for payment. Last I heard you could download that from the SGN Gaming site. www.teamplayfirst.com www.thanhsa-clan.net |

Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:32:00 -
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Ventrillo for it's better quality sound.
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:38:00 -
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TS 4tw \o/.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:09:00 -
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Teamspeak. Its generally more used, so easier bug fixes, more mods for all kinds of programs/sites, has chatability, easier to use, setup and admin.
Plus side of vent is uhmm... nothing? I think vent is no good.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:15:00 -
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The eternal question. I've heard people claim TS lags them, others claim vent lags them. Quality is a constant arguement. I think it depends on what codecs you use. Most TS servers only have a couple of default codecs on there, you can install loads.
I vote TS because its free for non-profit use. -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com |

Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:24:00 -
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Ventrilo sounds soooooo much better, ive spoke to peoppple on TS i could hardly understand on ts but i could on vent.
Theres 2 problems with vent:
1) can be harssh for modemers 2) You have to pay if theres more than 2 users, even tho it aint that much people dont liek to pay when they can get it for free
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:21:00 -
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I prefer Vent over TS, purely down to the sound quality.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:28:00 -
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lol, the sound quality arguement is moot. It all depends on the codecs, not the program. -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com |

Ctharth
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:42:00 -
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Ventrilo is easier to install, when using a computer without having administrative rights. Furthermore is there a greater probability of ventrilo working when behind company or provider security measures ( firewalls etc.) I use 2 connections, the one at work and one at home. Both is a network behind firewalls(i live at a dorm). Both places I couldnt get TS to work at first (had problems installing at work, but got it to work at home with some software from a friend of mine who is the netadmin there :). Never got it to connect at work.
Ventrilo was easily installed without administrative rights, and did in both cases connect in first try.
I know this probably has something to do with the portsettings on the firewall etc. But nonetheless I had a lot less problems with ventrilo.
I know nada about the capabilities of the 2 programs.
And I know I sohuldnt be on either on work :)
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:50:00 -
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I've always found Vent has better sound quality than TS. On the other hand, it's much easier to get a cheap TS server hosted.
Which codec do people recommend for TS? I've tried a few, but they all seem equally bad so far...
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Tar' Kahn
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:55:00 -
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Teamspeak...because I can host a server on my junky old 400mhz with no problems...
But I keep both, because I use whatever the people i'm talking to use.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:58:00 -
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vent.........cause you get that sexeh stephen hawkings voice announcing your arrival everytime you log in.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:01:00 -
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I make steven say dirty things 
He's naughty, you should hear what he says when he thinks he's alone !!! 
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tar om The eternal question. I've heard people claim TS lags them, others claim vent lags them. Quality is a constant arguement. I think it depends on what codecs you use. Most TS servers only have a couple of default codecs on there, you can install loads.
I vote TS because its free for non-profit use.
ts DOES lag you, but it all depends on your computer/connection and the teamspeak servers settings. For instance me and my mate tried to play bf2 and for me it was unplayable until he changed the server settings. Having said that i still prefer teamspeak because i cant be arsed to dl ventrilo
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:14:00 -
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You can't set up a free Vent server for your corp. You can set up a TS one. TS is easier to admin, and dosn't have the ****** up liscencing requirements of Ventrillo. And TS dosn't have issues with some creative sound cards.
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Altai Saker
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:49:00 -
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TS is a far better program... if your sound quality is bad... up your codec?
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:13:00 -
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Ive use both programs. TS with best codec beats ventrilo in sound quality , TS is also easier to use. _______________________________________________
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Calsak
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:38:00 -
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I've had a lot less problems using Vent and as many others have said it's far better quality. |

David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:46:00 -
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I prefer Teamspeak.
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: David Corbett on 30/06/2005 13:46:05 Double post - alas.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:48:00 -
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right.
LAG is caused by excess bandwidth useage - especially over a slow connection POOR QUALITY is caused by using a low bandwidth codec LAG WITH POOR QUALITY is caused by your PC and/or your connection sucking donkeys for cash.
You need to find a happy balance between bandwidth usage and quality. TS allows you to do this for free, while supporting a large range of codecs. Ventrilo charges for the privilege. I don't care about the money - I've enough to install whatever I like - but I still use TS because I like the functions it provides.
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Sgt Blade
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:26:00 -
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i use ts as its pretty good and u can have lots of poeple on one channel
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Icarus Starkiller
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Posted - 2005.06.30 20:26:00 -
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Having used both:
Teamspeak seems to have better sound levelling (very seldom is someone too quiet or too loud unless they're getting huge feedback from their speakers).
Vent has good sound quality and less lag, but the sound levelling is the worst I've encountered. People are half the time too quiet to hear, or suddenly so loud the speakers buzz (which is even worse when 4 people try to talk at once and a feedback loop gets going). Vent would be the way to go if: It gave the *listener* the ability to adjust individual incoming sources on their client side, rather than the sender having to adjust for every listener.
Overall I do like Vent's ability to adjust inbound/outbound sound levels as well as the master sound level.
TS has a better 'comment' ability in the bottom pane rather than appended to user name.
Overall, neither is better than the other, IMO.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.06.30 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 30/06/2005 23:25:49 Icarus - well, some people have problems with one, some the other.
In the end it comes down to the fact you can run a TS server for your clan for free, and you can't run a Ventrillo clan for your server for free.
Hence TS>Vent
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LandSharK
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Posted - 2005.06.30 23:40:00 -
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u get what u pay for or not in this case vent is better but both are useable. now name 1 thing that beats mr hawkins intros..... didnt think so. must have taken him ages to read every word in the dictionary :P
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Aalekzander Sevvari
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Posted - 2005.07.01 01:42:00 -
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TeamSpeak, for the following reasons
- Free to host your own server so long as it is non-profit
- Sound quality is identical to Ventrillio. People assume that because TS starts out with a lower quality codec by default (for 56k friendly connections out of the box) that it must be worse. No. Both have huge amounts of codecs to choose from and identical sound quality depending on codecs you use
- Vent breaks almost every programming user-interface rule. Looks like something from the gnome 1.x era and Windows 95 era. Clunky, boring, and not streamlined for the eye. TS has followed UI programming protocols and is thus easer to consume information faster
- I hate the robot voice on vent. Yes, you can turn it off. But what is more annoying then having a robot speak over the rest of the server's conversation, leaving you going "what? what?"
- amazing cross OS support for Linux and Windows. damn near identical preformance and stability
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Nanos
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Posted - 2005.07.03 22:12:00 -
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My limited experience of TS was it has an obscure and as yet unfixed bug in that on some installs of XP, after its been installed and you've rebooted, it refuses to load!
Working solution is hybernation (which doesn't work on all PC's..), but far from ideal.
Now testing out Ventrilo..
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.03 22:30:00 -
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Ventrilo has a better standard codec - but TeamSpeak can sound better than Ventrilo if you set it up right.
Another thing is TeamSpeak is alot better designed if you have a huge amount of people.
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Zalasar
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Posted - 2005.07.03 22:54:00 -
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Ventrilo
- Good sound quality simple as that, And you can host your own server and have up to 32 players on the ventrilo without paying, if you use the older version. And there is hardly any difference between the old and the newer version where you can only be 8 people online. |

Aalekzander Sevvari
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Posted - 2005.07.03 23:35:00 -
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Seriously. Drop the quality argument. It's been tested time and time again that they have near identical quality settings. Stop basing program capability on default options, and learn to look at program preferneces. A 25.6k streaming quality is a 25.6k streaming quality regardless of how the codec is titled. Both transfer as amazing levels of quality speed, bitrate, and transfer cap so long as you set the correct preferences.
-slaps yet another myth around vent-
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.03 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zalasar Ventrilo
- Good sound quality simple as that, And you can host your own server and have up to 32 players on the ventrilo without paying, if you use the older version. And there is hardly any difference between the old and the newer version where you can only be 8 people online.
This is also, incidently, both illegal and useless for people with SB Live sound cards.
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:12:00 -
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Vent, Easyer to use, Sounds great, unlike teamspeak when i cant tell wtf people are saying 50% of the time. never jerky, the chat doesnt cut off throughout the message.
and just seriously, its 100x easyer to understand someone. teamspeak sounds like your talking through a jet engine.
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Kalissa
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:20:00 -
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I'd choose Teamspeak everytime, with good codec's it's got great quality, it's easy to use and easy to admin.
I use Ventrilo sometimes, but only out of necessity, never out of choice.
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Aalekzander Sevvari
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:23:00 -
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Quote: Vent, Easyer to use, Sounds great, unlike teamspeak when i cant tell wtf people are saying 50% of the time. never jerky, the chat doesnt cut off throughout the message.
The interface is outdated and difficult to navigate based on every single coding UI principle known to man. The only time I have someone cut off half way through is if they have their sensitivity set too high. Which, guess what, occurs on both teamspeak and vent.
Quote: and just seriously, its 100x easyer to understand someone. teamspeak sounds like your talking through a jet engine.
Yet again, did you read anything about Teamspeak? Or just OMFGWTF!! didn't read the preferences? Most default TS servers run on 12.6k quality, which is horrible but incredibly friendly to dialup, and thus why they do it. It is easily bumped up to at least 25.9k which results in an amazing audio quality equally on par with the 25.9 highest codec in vent.
If TS sounds bad on a server it's because the admin didn't bump up the quality of his server to allow for broadband users and not worry about dial-up users. Learn to read preferneces and notice tiny things like this from now on.
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra Ventrilo sounds soooooo much better, ive spoke to peoppple on TS i could hardly understand on ts but i could on vent.
Theres 2 problems with vent:
1) can be harssh for modemers 2) You have to pay if theres more than 2 users, even tho it aint that much people dont liek to pay when they can get it for free
This is so so stupid. EVERY SINGLE CODEC you can use with ventrillo, you can download install and use with TS too. TS is better in a million ways.
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:48:00 -
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I prefer TS but it tends to lag a bit more than ventrilo when you get large numbers of people on it. On our alliance ventrilo server my ping is always around 20 even with 60+ people.
BTW ventrilo is free, google "ventrilo_2.1.3.exe" you should find it.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:57:00 -
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Vent is crap, it makes everyone sound like bloody robots and I find it's UI is much less intuitive than TS.
It always amazes me that anyone can claim Vent's quality is superior to TS when you all sound like metal mickey on Vent.
TS 4tw.
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Aalekzander Sevvari
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Posted - 2005.07.04 01:15:00 -
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Quote: BTW ventrilo is free, google "ventrilo_2.1.3.exe" you should find it.
Ventrilo is NOT free. Suggesting others to use an outdated version of vent is illegal and unethical. Don't be a **** to the very same people you want to "show your support". Buy it, or go to TS.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.04 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Aalekzander Sevvari
Quote: BTW ventrilo is free, google "ventrilo_2.1.3.exe" you should find it.
Ventrilo is NOT free. Suggesting others to use an outdated version of vent is illegal and unethical. Don't be a **** to the very same people you want to "show your support". Buy it, or go to TS.
Unfortunately, it's near impossible to liscence. Which means than Teamspeak is a far more viable soloution.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.07.04 13:02:00 -
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Last time I used it Ventrilo had better sound quality and was a lot easier to use. I have been using TS for several months now though. -- (Battle hardened miner)
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.07.04 13:13:00 -
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Ventrilo, easier to use, not purple, doesn't bounce around, user friendlier, not purple.

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prsr
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Posted - 2005.07.04 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Aalekzander Sevvari Ventrilo is NOT free. Suggesting others to use an outdated version of vent is illegal and unethical.
Unethical, Illegal? What are you smoking?
I'm assuming the people behind ventrilio were all of sound mind when they released that specific version. Coming back on that decision is fine, but you can't unrelease a released piece of software. Since when is it a crime to run older software?
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.07.04 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: prsr
Originally by: Aalekzander Sevvari Ventrilo is NOT free. Suggesting others to use an outdated version of vent is illegal and unethical.
Unethical, Illegal? What are you smoking?
I'm assuming the people behind ventrilio were all of sound mind when they released that specific version. Coming back on that decision is fine, but you can't unrelease a released piece of software. Since when is it a crime to run older software?
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