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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:18:00 -
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As of today, all corporations that have worked together the last few months to create and maintain a Blood Raider front, and those corps that have worked together to create an official ingame alliance, have ceased their activities. Some of these corps that worked together the last few months are Blood Inquisition, Going Limp, Clan Nosferatu, PAK, Venal Rangers, Smegheads Inc, Finite Horizon, Beer and Kebabs, and many, many more.
With the new patch, Cold War Edition, the Blood Raiders are being moved from the Bleak Lands to Delve/Querious, and the Sahtogas and Oyonata systems, former Blood Raider HQ, are being 'conquered' by the Amarr Navy. All the agents are now moved to 0.0 regions, firmly under control by Outer Region alliances and corporations.
This has singlehandedly killed the Blood Raider RP, as we are forced to move to 0.0 regions, with hostile entities about 100 times our size and we aren't exactly able to safely move our equipment, as the sentry guns will shoot us in the former Blood Raider systems after patch. A lot of our members will get trapped in our former homes, and will see all the hard work they have been doing the last few months being destroyed by this move. I've been training the skills to create an IGA for the last 6 weeks, time wasted it seems now.
The new Blood Raider territories are to be found about 60-100 jumps from the Bleak Lands, through both low sec and high sec space. I alone have to move 50+ ships and countless m¦ in blueprints and assets, and I don't even have a bad sec rating. Alot of us have -10 sec rating, and are unable to move their equipment through empire.
Coming with this is another new feature, the inability to increase our sec rating relatively fast, to be able to move out our equipment that will be stranded after the patch. It'll take countless hours to get back to a -1.9 sec rating, which is required to travel through 1.0 systems.
So, now the question is, what should and CAN we do when Cold War hits, when our ability to RP Blood Raider supporters is gone, when our source of income is gone (BR agents), our POS's are going to be taken down due to lack of activity and usefullness, etc...
The Blood Raiders have been in the Bleak Lands for as long as anyone can remember, roleplaying in the Bleak Lands has just reached new heights, people have lived in the area for months, even years and suddenly, we are forced to either start playing a completly different kind of game, or to move to a region that goes under entirely different rules and lies about 60-100 jumps away. Imagen you have to make 50-100 round trips to move your stuff like I'll have to do... And don't talk about Freighters, first of all they'll probably cost heaps of isk, second will be their speed and survivability (both almost non-existant afaik) and third, try getting through a camped chokepoint with a Freighter, especially when your only have a small active playerbase.
And to everyone that has been fighting us the last few months, I ask you kindly to not gloat or talk about a 'victory' for your cause in any way, since this is entirely CCP's doing, and frankly, we prefer constructive comments.
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:31:00 -
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This does suck TBH for you guys nuff said there.
The moving ships problem maybe be helped with alts in haulers now you can carry think upto cruisers in haulers although will take ages, but thats just one small ray of hope in a big **** storm of problems. ----------------------------------------------
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:34:00 -
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As of now PAK's (my) plans are not certain, although after living in the area for 8-10 months I'm very displeased on CCP's decision on the furture of the bloods. _________________________________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu And don't talk about Freighters, first of all they'll probably cost heaps of isk, second will be their speed and survivability (both almost non-existant afaik) and third, try getting through a camped chokepoint with a Freighter, especially when your only have a small active playerbase.
I belive 770 mill is the price and i doubt theyll last very long in 0.0.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:39:00 -
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Just to make one point absolutely clear (constructively of course), Delve is BoB territory so whatever you RP types may be thinking .... don't.
Eve Blacklight Style
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight Just to make one point absolutely clear (constructively of course), Delve is BoB territory so whatever you RP types may be thinking .... don't.
Yea do do, BOB seem pretty weak recent you can take um & best now before loads come back to test the new feature's. _______________________________________
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:48:00 -
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Just petition it and the GM's will move all your **** for u.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:50:00 -
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so does this mean thire will be new stations in delve and querious? or are they going to convert some PCS to NPC stations?
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Myadra
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:52:00 -
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Omir Sarikusa has ordered our retreat.. I will refrain from this discussion untill further details are received.
Although we allready received one resignation...
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Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2005.07.02 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin Edited by: SinBin on 02/07/2005 15:47:45
Originally by: Blacklight Just to make one point absolutely clear (constructively of course), Delve is BoB territory so whatever you RP types may be thinking .... don't.
Yea do do, BOB seem pretty weak recent you can take um & best now before loads come back to test the new feature's.
Sure, come show us how weak we are, I welcome it.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:08:00 -
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That does seem like a really bad move and doesn't reward you for making Eve a richer place due to your role play.
WTS: Male, 37, single, can fly starships, build rockets and dance Salsa. WTB: Female, plays eve, lives near London UK |
John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:14:00 -
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I have not rp'ed in the blood raider area too much but I trained up an alt specifcly to rp this faction. Interesting enophe this is one of the few factions that actually intereted me in rp'ing.
I am sad they they are being moved as well, thers no way i'm going to travel up to the new area.
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As for moving your items you could contract out with a industrial corp to move your items. In fact I have a chacter that should be able to get into the new hauler ship soon after patch and I would offer to help move things very reasonably. Probibly 100k per jump.
John Blackthorn
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:46:00 -
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This has been a twisted little war.....with more out-of-game elements involved than I want to mention here...but in the end it became a real RP struggle that we can be proud of being apart of.
I encourage you to get in touch with me. There have to be options.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:51:00 -
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Why dont you just ask the people in delve and querious if you can do your stuff there? The BoB guys are pretty decent. If you ask nicely I'm sure they wouldn't make a big fuss about it. And if they do agree, you can just petition the GMs to help you move all your crap over there.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two Why dont you just ask the people in delve and querious if you can do your stuff there? The BoB guys are pretty decent. If you ask nicely I'm sure they wouldn't make a big fuss about it. And if they do agree, you can just petition the GMs to help you move all your crap over there.
Read the whole thread, the CEO of BNC, a BoB corp just wrote this:
Originally by: Blacklight Just to make one point absolutely clear (constructively of course), Delve is BoB territory so whatever you RP types may be thinking .... don't.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn ...but in the end it became a real RP struggle that we can be proud of being apart of.
Well said.
I do hope CCP leaves us some options but it may mean the beginning of a new road for some.
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Karazaan
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Karazaan on 02/07/2005 17:12:42
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu With the new patch, Cold War Edition, the Blood Raiders are being moved from the Bleak Lands to Delve/Querious, and the Sahtogas and Oyonata systems, former Blood Raider HQ, are being 'conquered' by the Amarr Navy. All the agents are now moved to 0.0 regions, firmly under control by Outer Region alliances and corporations.
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So, now the question is, what should and CAN we do when Cold War hits, when our ability to RP Blood Raider supporters is gone, when our source of income is gone (BR agents), our POS's are going to be taken down due to lack of activity and usefullness, etc...
Well, after reading your post, I think the best thing to do would be to continue what you like, with the same group. Meaning create your alliance anyway but RP it a little like the Ammatar... You were once near Blood Raider, now you are the Blood Raider Exile or something.
Also, you have a big location problem. Moving everything far away on top of very hostile land is not a good ideas (like you stated). I would suggest you stay right where you are and see what will 'appear' around you (I'm thinking cosmos).
You wrote: "'conquered' by the Amarr Navy" so that make me think the sec rating will go higher (thus the talk about how hard it will be to raise it now). So, if you are 'thrown out of your space' maybe you should see what is the closest system you could go to (the closest 0.0) and move just there, what's the least jump you could go. Then establish yourself there and see what happen? You know the place already so no worry to stay close.
Maybe what I wrote don't apply because I don't know your situation BUT it seem to make best of the situation that fell upon you.
OR, you could also go on a pilgrimage. Meaning, you setup in the closest 0.0. There is nothing there but it's close to move your stuff. Then each weekend, you move 5 systems closer to the new home of the Blood (with ALL your stuff). So if it's 100 jumps away, it will take you 20 weeks or 5 months. You will reach your new home just in time for Kali on Chrismass and claim your own planet!!! LOL...
Too bad travel is so instantatneous right now in eve. Seem almost pointless to spend all this time to do such a trip, but it would be a secure trip. Moving slowly assure you don't get any surprise in the front or in the back of your convoy. You just have to have an npc station that allow you to dock each 5 systems.
I'm sure a lot of blood flowing with that patch, all around the universe... Thoses that survive will be stronger and smarter.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:11:00 -
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You may have noticed that FIX isn't keen on you guys either in a RP way. We've said over several times that we're enemies of the Bloods, and if you guys didn't listen and dismissed us (as you did), well, tough.
"Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted." |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell You may have noticed that FIX isn't keen on you guys either in a RP way. We've said over several times that we're enemies of the Bloods, and if you guys didn't listen and dismissed us (as you did), well, tough.
Neither BoB nor BNC has stated any official position towards the Blood Raiders. If and when we do it'll be a CEO doing it.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Maya Rkell You may have noticed that FIX isn't keen on you guys either in a RP way. We've said over several times that we're enemies of the Bloods, and if you guys didn't listen and dismissed us (as you did), well, tough.
Neither BoB nor BNC has stated any official position towards the Blood Raiders. If and when we do it'll be a CEO doing it.
Hey I was right first time around. Just ask Blacklight over here and maybe he will help you folk if you ask nicely.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Maya Rkell You may have noticed that FIX isn't keen on you guys either in a RP way. We've said over several times that we're enemies of the Bloods, and if you guys didn't listen and dismissed us (as you did), well, tough.
Neither BoB nor BNC has stated any official position towards the Blood Raiders. If and when we do it'll be a CEO doing it.
Hey I was right first time around. Just ask Blacklight over here and maybe he will help you folk if you ask nicely.
Did you miss this part?
Originally by: Blacklight Just to make one point absolutely clear (constructively of course), Delve is BoB territory so whatever you RP types may be thinking .... don't.
which he said in the beginning and then it was quoted again eariler... _________________________________________________________
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:45:00 -
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I think that was a warning not to encroach on BoB territory without first approaching them. As far as I can see they still haven't taken an official position on this so there is always hope.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin Edited by: SinBin on 02/07/2005 15:47:45
Yea do do, BOB seem pretty weak recent you can take um & best now before loads come back to test the new feature's.
Come visit us, we can be found mining around Nol
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan I think that was a warning not to encroach on BoB territory without first approaching them. As far as I can see they still haven't taken an official position on this so there is always hope.
Erm Soren thats what I was tryin to say. I think all Blacklight meant was not to try sneak in there qwithout tellin them.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.07.02 17:54:00 -
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Much as I sympathise with the BR RP'ers, isn't a more dynamic NPC environment/storyline something most people have been asking for for months and months? This seems to qualify, much as it may hurt the RP you've set up. Tough situation tbh
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:18:00 -
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This action by CCP is bad news for all RP'ers. Imagine if the Minmatar conquered Domain and the Amarr loyalists were forced to move --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |
corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:22:00 -
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I ofc never really thought of all this, I was not under the impression the bloods were Losing the bleak lands, my Fun with FIX and the Bloodraiders was just so Some of the FIX guys who like RP inclueding myself could have abit of fun. I am sorry for what is going to happen, I can't in good faith say I like the Direction eve is going with this new patch.
I feel its turning into CS in space ( puts flame suit on ) I know people will disagree but everything seems to be geared towards combat combat and more combat, be it agent missions or Cold war. How its Players and Alliances forcing there style of play on others (do this or we crush you) RP aspect is dead, its now Killboards and regions claimed, I personnally give up on eve
" Stay Frosty "
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:24:00 -
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While I hate to seet this great RP come to such a seemingly abrupt end, you had to know it was coming eventually. The Raiders are the only NCP pirates with sovereign systems in empire space. It just doesn't make sense that the largest of all the empires would allow them to stay. That's the disadvantage of joining a numerically far inferior cause. I wish it had lasted a lot longer than it did, but this was inevitable.
As also suggested you guys could stick around and be the Raider supporters within amarr space, but I can see how that would cause a lot of problems. Hopefully you lot can work something out and we'll see you again. _________________
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin This action by CCP is bad news for all RP'ers. Imagine if the Minmatar conquered Domain and the Amarr loyalists were forced to move.
I agree, as I stated, this move singlehandedly killed the Blood Raider RP front. Only a handfull of us are willing to move their stuff 100+ jumps right in the middle of 0.0 and hostile territory to be outblobbed by megacorps and outer Region alliances to travel back 100 jumps to be able to fight RP wars with 3 alliances that outblob us again. And to those that are willing I say: Your absolutely nuts!
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Revanant
As also suggested you guys could stick around and be the Raider supporters within amarr space, but I can see how that would cause a lot of problems. Hopefully you lot can work something out and we'll see you again.
It'll be hard to earn some isk staying in Amarr space; mining while at least 2 alliances are actively searching for you and outnumber you 4-1 (active members wise) isn't exactly efficient, rat hunting in empire, uh, no explanation needed, pirating is out of the question to and that leaves agent missions...
Blood Raider agents are in 0.0 after patch, and doing Amarr missions isn't really good when your a Blood Raider supporter, right? Besides, many of us have such a bad Amarr sec rating that they aren't able to do much missions anyways...
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Maya Rkell You may have noticed that FIX isn't keen on you guys either in a RP way. We've said over several times that we're enemies of the Bloods, and if you guys didn't listen and dismissed us (as you did), well, tough.
Neither BoB nor BNC has stated any official position towards the Blood Raiders. If and when we do it'll be a CEO doing it.
Never said it was an official view. Just that a lot of BoB pilots hunted bloods.
"Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted." |
Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.07.02 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu pirating is out of the question
0_o
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.02 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu pirating is out of the question
0_o
I meant in empire, 0.5+
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.07.02 20:36:00 -
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well eve gets more ****ty every patch,..so bound to happen eventually when they ****** over a sizable part of the ppl paying for the food on their tables.
i guess only options would be to ally urself w/bob(must..resist...negative...comment) or rp say an elite wing of blood raiders assigned to disrupt everyday life in bleak lands(camping ect) and carry out pinpoint operations(wars against corps in the area). the later would actually be pretty cool imo.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.07.02 22:07:00 -
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I appreciate how CCP starts introducing some territorial changes. I expect to see some more changes in future when the major factions start to fight each other. I also like how new NPC stations appear in 0.0 space since this might encourage more non-alliance players to move to that regions. Some 0.0 pvpers will be happy about more fresh targets while they complain at the same moment that they can dock in stations (like in curse, fountain, stain etc).
I admit you really had more than just bad luck. You have my ooc condolence. As a Khanid roleplayer I can only hope there will be never a war with the Amarr Empire. It would be a serious drawback to me if all my stuff in the Khanid region suddenly is no more in friendly but in hostile territory. So far it seems God listened to my prayers.
Roleplaywise you could stay in the Bleak Lands trying to reconquer your old territory. From my point of view service to your faction (missions) is a part of roleplay, too. A Blood Raider roleplayer with positive Amarr Empire standings and not a positive Blood Raider standing is flawed. Correct me if I am wrong but I think your biggest problem are available Blood Raider agents. Maybe CCP introduces some Blood Raider agents in space in the Bleak Lands!?! Maybe some 'hidden' Blood Raider stations survive in the Bleak Lands!?!
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2005.07.02 23:00:00 -
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This is dire news. All the more so since a friend and I were contemplating joining the ranks of the BR supporters. Not that we won't still, but as Astarte stated, I guess there is now a shroud of uncertainty as to what your future will be.
I don't understand CCP's move really. Bleak Lands was a natural low sec zone between Amarr & Minmatar spaces, why remove it? Does this mean that Bleak Lands systems will receive a general sec status boost? Will new BR NPC stations 'magically' appear smack in the middle of Delve/Querious/Period? What about the original storyline concerning the abandoned giga-entertainement complex that became the BR homebase?
It just doesn't make any sense, and pretty much annihilates the efforts of a quite a few dedicated RP'ers. A step in the wrong direction.
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Tinuviel
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Posted - 2005.07.02 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor I appreciate how CCP starts introducing some territorial changes. I expect to see some more changes in future when the major factions start to fight each other.
moving borders a bit would be a cool move, but whats happening to the blood raiders is sort of silly, they are getting moved to the other side of the galaxy! o_O
losing a few systems here and there could make sense in a way, and would just add to the RP tbh, as things would be happening etc.
but imagine if the amarr empire DID invade khanid space, and actually sucseeded in it as well, and conquered all your space overnight. would it make sense if khanid moved his people to tenal, to settle a new empire up there?
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.02 23:33:00 -
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well khanid does have a titan with a jump drive ......
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2005.07.02 23:45:00 -
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boo hoo
cry more noob
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.07.03 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares boo hoo
cry more noob
thank you for that well thought out reply.
see that very large train over there,plz jump under it.
thanks.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.07.03 02:09:00 -
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Darn and those blood raider agents were so tempting....
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.07.03 02:53:00 -
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I've got to admit, I'm not exactly happy with CCP over this issue. BoB are pretty vocal about it's contempt for NPC stations and it's wish to have the bastard things removed from the game, putting them in our home region is a real kick in the teeth imo :(
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 03:39:00 -
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Since ccp has said they need to be moved, I know a great little place that would be good for the blood raiders.
You know there is this strand of about 12 systems that is just west of immensia. It arcs up and looks like it conects to curse but does not. That area is never in use, and has access in and out of empire space from a few differnt directions.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.03 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tinuviel
Originally by: Ardor I appreciate how CCP starts introducing some territorial changes. I expect to see some more changes in future when the major factions start to fight each other.
moving borders a bit would be a cool move, but whats happening to the blood raiders is sort of silly, they are getting moved to the other side of the galaxy! o_O
losing a few systems here and there could make sense in a way, and would just add to the RP tbh, as things would be happening etc.
but imagine if the amarr empire DID invade khanid space, and actually sucseeded in it as well, and conquered all your space overnight. would it make sense if khanid moved his people to tenal, to settle a new empire up there?
Losing a few systems is all that's happening to the blood raiders. Oyonata, Sahtogas and one other are all they have claim to. If Querious and Delve make no sense for them to move to, where would you suggest? I think providence would be somewhat out of the frying pan and into the fire don't you think? _________________
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.07.03 05:56:00 -
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This move is completely logical for the BR because they are the only ones that don't have their own space in 0.0, and their location is perfect.
Their eventual defeat is logical too, because a simple pirate faction taking on the largest Empire in the game is highly unreasonable, and very impossible to do in terms of game mechanics.
The only thing CCP did do wrong, and its a major one, that really kicks people in the nuts is the complete shafting of those who supported the BR.
The war should have lasted two months easily, was it even two or three weeks? Then the BR's eventual defeat could have been built up by constant and overwhelming victories through events of big battles. I've been to a lot of them, and none of them really made me feel like I was taking part in any significant battle (hunting convoys anyone?).. and even the few of them that I was in, weren't always lost for the BR supporters. So I don't feel like anything conclusive was done in the faction vs faction war.. because how much losses the BR supporters and Amarr supporters take is really irrelevant in this, right? You can wipe out Blood Inquisition entirely and that would have no effect on the Blood Raiders' assets.
The other thing is there was no reward for those helping the BR. None that I can see. Our corp has helped considerably, we have no standings boost, no module/ship gifts, no generous donations of the narcotics we sought from that area of space. Then the offer to relocate the supporters was never made even though it could have been easily roleplayed with the BR helping its supporters retreat.
Teh suck tbh. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.07.03 06:42:00 -
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True, we didn't even get anything for that attack on Mabnen I, which provided ISD/CCP with a lot of RP material and future story possibilities.
Now it seems all our hard work is for nothing, and moving our assets 60-100 jumps into 0.0 to even be able to continue missions is quite frankly unacceptable.
Guess BR RP won't be very active the next few months...
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 08:56:00 -
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I'm kinda sad Omir hasn't made any statements of guidance to his pod-faithful....
I mean, he kinda owes you some favors, eh?
Random Idea: for a while at least, perhaps the Inquisition would turn thier RP towrds finding Bloodraider assets and citizens who retreated and ran from battle, giving them the death thier failure deserves? Discovering and consolidating lost assets, stowing them away in preparation of the inevitable return of Sarikusa.....
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.07.03 09:27:00 -
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I feel for you bloodraider lot right now :( ----------------------------------------------
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.03 09:31:00 -
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Don't you guys have non-corp non-RP alts to haul your stuff?
Not an answer to the true problem but it helps the logistics.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 09:34:00 -
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Might I also remind the BR folks.....
Vice-Admiral Sarum is missing in action after the last event.
There may yet be another chapter to the Blood Wars....keep your ears open.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tinuviel
Originally by: Ardor I appreciate how CCP starts introducing some territorial changes. I expect to see some more changes in future when the major factions start to fight each other.
moving borders a bit would be a cool move, but whats happening to the blood raiders is sort of silly, they are getting moved to the other side of the galaxy! o_O
losing a few systems here and there could make sense in a way, and would just add to the RP tbh, as things would be happening etc.
but imagine if the amarr empire DID invade khanid space, and actually sucseeded in it as well, and conquered all your space overnight. would it make sense if khanid moved his people to tenal, to settle a new empire up there?
temi dead! -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn I'm kinda sad Omir hasn't made any statements of guidance to his pod-faithful....
Oh, he has.
"[ 2005.07.02 15:31:36 ] Omir Sarikusa > There are negotiations to be conducted. I will keep you apprised, my children."
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:17:00 -
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You could hire that hauling corp to move your stuff for you? You could wait a few days until after the patch when repackaged ships become much smaller - and also I expect this corp to be one of the first to have a freighter.
I hear they're reliable. Can't remember the name though. Anyone? ------------
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:18:00 -
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Here is a pic grabbed from the test server.
Blood Raiders
Unless this changes from today until the patch Tranq. you can see it lists 2 Blood Raider stations still in Bleak lands.
As for the Blood Raiders moving into Delve/Querious this is only half true since you notice none of the stations are listed in Querious space but in Delve only.
As for thier move out into our part of space it comes as no suprise. We have been freq. attacked by them in all areas of our space and tho I cant speak for my alliance or my corp I'm guessing anyone that RP's their friends would be just as welcome as the Blood Raiders that fire upon us. (no idea some out this way might be friendly to them I only know ppl that kill blood raiders and not ones that play pattycake with them)
Thi is no way an official post just some info from my pov.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:22:00 -
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What an awesomely logical development
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.07.03 11:34:00 -
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This isnt about BoB.
d solo.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.03 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo This isnt about BoB.
d solo.
Indeed.
We do have more b's though ;)
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.07.03 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo This isnt about BoB.
d solo.
Meerly pointing out that the new "recipients" of the stations aren't happy either, now run along.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.07.04 04:34:00 -
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Edited by: Crzycnck2 on 04/07/2005 04:34:23 You should refrain from coming to Querious. FIX will not let you set up shop here. AFAIK, we will fire upon anyone of you that enters FIX space.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.04 07:01:00 -
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You act like we're purposely invading you. We havn't been given a choice, we've been told to go here. We're none to pleased about it either but have to make the best of it.
Current favourite holoreel: Dr. TomB: How I learnt to stop worrying and love the nerf |
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.07.04 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 04/07/2005 08:27:03 Well seems a bit harsh on the RP lot but, this is EvE I guess, get with it or dont tbh.... -
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.04 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xav Vorbarra You act like we're purposely invading you. We havn't been given a choice, we've been told to go here. We're none to pleased about it either but have to make the best of it.
No I understand that Totally, I hate the fact CCP did this, RP is so small apart of Eve you guys should have been rewarded for staying Faithfull to what you belived and the way you played, maybe its not over yet
I also am abit miffed as I have not really had the chance to get into some RP until the blood stories started, then it was trying to find a angle to bring a 0.0 alliance into it, but sadly we got the opertunity with regards to the bombing of civilians but now it seems all the bloods are next door to us.
A blessing and a curse, time will tell but don't despair yet is all I say.
" Stay Frosty "
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.04 10:44:00 -
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In my opinion it would be fair if Fix gave them a cease fire for a months. Even then they might not need to continue their war and keep that cease fire if it proved to be good. Of course the war against the BRs (npcs) would get carried on "inofficially", from an RPish point of view.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.04 10:49:00 -
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Well it's good that some people realise we're not out to totally dominate your land. We just want to carry on our RP and our wars with our enemies.
I understand negotiations are underway with those who are concerned in the matter and that progress is being made.
Current favourite holoreel: Dr. TomB: How I learnt to stop worrying and love the nerf |
Lungorthin
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Posted - 2005.07.04 11:07:00 -
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Well... think about it... that is what usually happens when one faction wins a war and another faction is forced to move out. Their supporters get the short end of the stick too.
It has happened in rl history, it is happening in this game no. It is as realistic as it gets. Ppl are asking for realism in this game! Voila, there you have it.
I see another very realistic option for the blood raider supporters here: Join a BoB corp and continue your agent missions then. If you like PvP then Bob is the place to be anyhow.
If you looking for a Logistics/Industrial/Agent running corp, instead of the traditional PvP Bob Corps, then mail me ingame.
Lungorthin
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.07.04 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lungorthin I see another very realistic option for the blood raider supporters here: Join a BoB corp and continue your agent missions then. If you like PvP then Bob is the place to be anyhow.
If you looking for a Logistics/Industrial/Agent running corp, instead of the traditional PvP Bob Corps, then mail me ingame.
There is more then "0.0 PVP corp" and "Logistics/Industrial/Agent corp" in EVE. Ubiqua Seraph is a RP PVP corp.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.04 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
There is more then "0.0 PVP corp" and "Logistics/Industrial/Agent corp" in EVE. Ubiqua Seraph is a RP PVP corp.
I'm living proof that there's room for RPers in 0.0 pvp corps
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.04 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: theRaptor
There is more then "0.0 PVP corp" and "Logistics/Industrial/Agent corp" in EVE. Ubiqua Seraph is a RP PVP corp.
I'm living proof that there's room for RPers in 0.0 pvp corps
Nope.
If you'd actually log on you'd ahve noticed we stole all your gear and had you demoted to closetcleanerboy while you was away on the forums.
Anyway, I have nothing against RP corps, but there's more to it then alot of people think. Our own RP angles for starters, like Discorp.
Anyways, we'll see what can be thought of. Fact is nothing comes into delve to stay and live without some agreement, if it's smart at least. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.04 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Nope.
If you'd actually log on you'd ahve noticed we stole all your gear and had you demoted to closetcleanerboy while you was away on the forums.
I logged on yesterday and my stash is still secure (not that there's anything in it but ohh well).
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.04 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool In my opinion it would be fair if Fix gave them a cease fire for a months. Even then they might not need to continue their war and keep that cease fire if it proved to be good. Of course the war against the BRs (npcs) would get carried on "inofficially", from an RPish point of view.
I could come to that agreement as regards FIX no problem (( all out of character ofc )) if BOB allowed them to move to the Bloodstations, ofc they would have to behave themselves there and not be sending any annoying ships into FIX space.
But its up to BOB really, I hate to see them out of a home, they played there characters for what they belived in and are really harmless to the big alliances unless they interupt our shipping.
" Stay Frosty "
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.04 20:23:00 -
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Afaik, our operations would be something along the lines of hanging around the BR stations, agent running, destroying anyone we don't know/like who comes near the BR stations and maybe the occasional raid up to Khanid space for RP's sake.
Current favourite holoreel: Dr. TomB: How I learnt to stop worrying and love the nerf |
bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.07.04 22:28:00 -
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Bloods RP'ers
plz come to Delve
i would love to give u special cAKe
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.05 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xav Vorbarra Afaik, our operations would be something along the lines of hanging around the BR stations, agent running, destroying anyone we don't know/like who comes near the BR stations and maybe the occasional raid up to Khanid space for RP's sake.
As I said I can lay of on FIX as regards you guys to let you sort something if a move was to happen, but and I state again FIX has no control over Delve its BOB teritory, contact one of there head guys and plead your case (lots of pleading) just my guess.
" Stay Frosty "
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.05 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 05/07/2005 03:58:47
Current favourite holoreel: Dr. TomB: How I learnt to stop worrying and love the nerf |
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