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Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 50	Posted - 2013.01.22 17:00:00 - [1] - Quote I recall seeing a dev post at one point stating that they were looking at the clone costs for higher-end clones. I haven't really seen anything about it since, and clone costs have been the primary reason why I never roam around in cheap, disposable ships anymore. While I may have been around a long time, my income has not markedly improved over my years in EVE, and the cost of my clone has become rather prohibitive.
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.22 17:26:00 - [2] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1658	Posted - 2013.01.22 17:44:00 - [3] - Quote How about we reverse the costs on clones. The lower the clone grade, the MORE expensive it is. New players shell out 150mil for each clone popped, and 10yo bittervets should get free clones. problems solved, eve is left with only bittervets to populate its space. will the last titan out please turn off the servers? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 783	Posted - 2013.01.22 17:55:00 - [4] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: How about we reverse the costs on clones. The lower the clone grade, the MORE expensive it is. New players shell out 150mil for each clone popped, and 10yo bittervets should get free clones. problems solved, eve is left with only bittervets to populate its space. will the last titan out please turn off the servers? In no way was this the subject of discussion. Your post reveals that you lack the gleam of intelligence required to be a forum troll, therefore I assume you lack the education to process the information. As friendly internet traveler I suggest you consider: Reading Comprehension http://www.phx.devry.edu/samplereadingcomprehensionquestions.html DeVry will sort you out, they offer 8 week sessions and the next one is opening in only 6 weeks, so register now! (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 486	Posted - 2013.01.22 18:03:00 - [5] - Quote Demolishar wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well. Dumbest thing ever. -á-á-á-á-á-á / \|__\|-á-á-á This is a tears cup, fill it ! Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++
Sal Landry School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 29	Posted - 2013.01.22 18:09:00 - [6] - Quote Oh the trials and tribulations of having massive amounts of SP... think of the 1%!
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 1966	Posted - 2013.01.22 18:45:00 - [7] - Quote Sal Landry wrote: Oh the trials and tribulations of having massive amounts of SP... think of the 1%! Having a massive amount of SP doesn't make isk grinding much faster than basic skills. At-least not at the exponential rate of clone cost increase. Plus most SP is situational, it allows for more avenues to interact with the game, yet you can only interact via so many methods at once. Once past 54m SP, which happens to be just about the 3 year retention mark. The bang for the buck in t1 frigs and cruisers starts to spiral sharpy as you always have to pay for the next grade higher. Specially if you die quite often due to bubbles or simply CCPs awful latency during the ship transfer in podding. With just leads to even more grinding. Punishing old pvpers who play the longest with more pve time. Or its just a ploy to force long standing hooked customers to plex more often as they think those that have been playing for that long will not leave for any reason. That or it makes them create alternate accounts supported by large SP highsec dwelling ex-mains because that's where the safest money is right? They had more avenues for sinks to lighten the load of clone costs such as bounty concord taxes and activation and claiming of killrights in highsec not lowsec. Yet they didn't go for these obvious small sinks which would add up over time. And leaving new modules as drops only are lost sinks when bpc LP store versions could add to sinks. Dusters should at least help drain some isk yet they have yet to ever revisit their old archaic ratios.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 170	Posted - 2013.01.22 20:19:00 - [8] - Quote The next clone cost adjustment will happen when enough older pvp players stop training their characters due to clone costs. Since apparently most players are lurkers and don't pvp much, or have an empire alt to train instead, that might be awhile. I do find myself weighing clone cost when I decided to use my main pvp char or alt pvp char at times. Maybe that was the intent. Only use what you can afford to lose. Edit: And buy a second account from power of 2 to train a pvp alt when you main gets too much sp.
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 383	Posted - 2013.01.22 20:22:00 - [9] - Quote My sign says it all. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it.
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers R O G U E 173	Posted - 2013.01.23 07:42:00 - [10] - Quote i have to admit, i really dont like shelling out an extra 35 mill after going out in a cheap ship for some fights to pay an extra 35 mill for a new clone, not that i get podded that often of course.
Ris Dnalor Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 432	Posted - 2013.01.23 07:52:00 - [11] - Quote Wrayeth wrote: I recall seeing a dev post at one point stating that they were looking at the clone costs for higher-end clones. I haven't really seen anything about it since, and clone costs have been the primary reason why I never roam around in cheap, disposable ships anymore. While I may have been around a long time, my income has not markedly improved over my years in EVE, and the cost of my clone has become rather prohibitive. you get a free clone, every time your pod is destroyed. If you don't want to pay for a clone upgrade that will preserve all your skillpoints, then don't. After your pod gets destroyed a few times your cost for that clone upgrade will become cheaper. Problem solved. No need for CCP to waste yet more manpower considering how best to mollycoddle folks. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961 EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody - Qolde
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition 293	Posted - 2013.01.23 09:29:00 - [12] - Quote Roguelike games from the past simply took X percentage out of your wallet. It was a great incentive to not sit on your money.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 51	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:26:00 - [13] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Roguelike games from the past simply took X percentage out of your wallet. It was a great incentive to not sit on your money. This could be easily gamed just by focusing on having lots of assets and keeping your wallet small. Besides, it's not like my wallet has lots of ISK in it, anyway. In regards to the original question, would a passing dev care to respond, even if it's just "we're still looking at it but don't have anything concrete that we can share"?
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 3460	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:30:00 - [14] - Quote lol, the amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding. "You started playing the game earlier than me, so **** you, deal with the clone costs." Yeah, cause a mechanic that punishes people for staying loyal to the game and discourages PVP is a good mechanic. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Want to enable BBcode on the forums? Here's how.
Dr No Game Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:35:00 - [15] - Quote Just curious - I notice when passing through FW systems that upgraded system offer a discount on medical costs. I'm sure it wouldn't be the most convenient arrangement, but could high-SP characters not take advantage of this to lower their costs? (iirc the discount can be up to 40+% which is significant when you're getting up to the 100's of millions of ISK)
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 51	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:51:00 - [16] - Quote Dr No Game wrote: Just curious - I notice when passing through FW systems that upgraded system offer a discount on medical costs. I'm sure it wouldn't be the most convenient arrangement, but could high-SP characters not take advantage of this to lower their costs? (iirc the discount can be up to 40+% which is significant when you're getting up to the 100's of millions of ISK) The problem with this is that, if the opposing faction takes the system, you lose access to your clone. As such, IIRC, you get shunted somewhere else when you die, losing skillpoints.
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:52:00 - [17] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Demolishar wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well. Dumbest thing ever. Characters are just another commodity. In real life if you owned some sports car and suddenly ran out of money to run it, what would you do? Oh of course, YOU'd scream to the government to reduce fuel prices and refuse to ever drive again until they do. Everyone else with common sense would buy a smaller, more economical car that they can afford to run.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 3461	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:56:00 - [18] - Quote Demolishar wrote: Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Demolishar wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well. Dumbest thing ever. Characters are just another commodity. In real life if you owned some sports car and suddenly ran out of money to run it, what would you do? Oh of course, YOU'd scream to the government to reduce fuel prices and refuse to ever drive again until they do. Everyone else with common sense would sell it (to someone with the cash to buy it and run it), and buy a smaller, more economical car that they can afford to run. What's the point of this analogy? It doesn't apply at all. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Want to enable BBcode on the forums? Here's how.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 51	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:57:00 - [19] - Quote Sorry, no interest in selling my character. My character is my history and reputation within EVE (such as they are). Moreover, after using the character for 9 years, I've kind of grown attached. Finally, I like being able to do all of the many different things this toon is capable of. I just find the exponential ramp-up in clone costs prohibitive, especially since I can only use something like 30% of those skillpoints at any given time.
ElQuirko Protus Correction Facility Inc. 1016	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:29:00 - [20] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: In no way was this the subject of discussion. Your post reveals that you lack the gleam of intelligence required to be a forum troll, therefore I assume you lack the education to process the information. As friendly internet traveler I suggest you consider: Reading Comprehension http://www.phx.devry.edu/samplereadingcomprehensionquestions.html DeVry will sort you out, they offer 8 week sessions and the next one is opening in only 6 weeks, so register now! Biggest piece of sh*tposting I've ever seen. The terrible attempt at sarcastic humour could've ended after "subject of discussion". You, sir, get an award. CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:30:00 - [21] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Demolishar wrote: Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Demolishar wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well. Dumbest thing ever. Characters are just another commodity. In real life if you owned some sports car and suddenly ran out of money to run it, what would you do? Oh of course, YOU'd scream to the government to reduce fuel prices and refuse to ever drive again until they do. Everyone else with common sense would sell it (to someone with the cash to buy it and run it), and buy a smaller, more economical car that they can afford to run. What's the point of this analogy? It doesn't apply at all. Clone cost = running cost/ fuel. Char = car.
Elvis Fett Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 188	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:37:00 - [22] - Quote Demolishar wrote: Clone cost = running cost/ fuel. Char = car. What kind of sports car do you know that takes fuel that costs 1000x more than regular fuel? OP it is a dumb mechanic. Although I am relatively low SP and my clones are cheap, I feel for you. High SP doesn't mean you have a lot of isk, I know plenty of rich low SP characters and broke high SP characters. So hopefully CCP will fix it, but in the meantime come play in FW. Not only are there more fights here then anywhere else, we're low sec so you shouldn't be losing any pods. The only problem with little pod loss comes lots of people running very expensive pods, so yeah you got to fight those.
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote Demolishar wrote: High SP doesn't mean you have a lot of isk Yes, it does. It's simply tied up in a certain asset, which you can easily sell.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 51	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:08:00 - [24] - Quote Demolishar wrote: Demolishar wrote: High SP doesn't mean you have a lot of isk Yes, it does. It's simply tied up in a certain asset, which you can easily sell. If you're talking about the character as an asset, I don't view the character as such. As I've said before, my character is my history and reputation within EVE. In a sense, my character is me. I'm not going to sell myself. In short, not everyone is an alt-aholic. Not everyone wants to use a different character. This is the character I started with, and I'm going to hold on to it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My character is not an "asset."
Stegas Tyrano GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy 150	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:17:00 - [25] - Quote Give players the ability to produce their own clones. Add it as a POS module. [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:23:00 - [26] - Quote Wrayeth wrote: Demolishar wrote: Demolishar wrote: High SP doesn't mean you have a lot of isk Yes, it does. It's simply tied up in a certain asset, which you can easily sell. If you're talking about the character as an asset, I don't view the character as such. As I've said before, my character is my history and reputation within EVE. In a sense, my character is me. I'm not going to sell myself. In short, not everyone is an alt-aholic. Not everyone wants to use a different character. This is the character I started with, and I'm going to hold on to it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My character is not an "asset." I have a unit of tritanium. I've had it for a long time. I care about it. I love it. I take it everywhere with me. I'm going to hold onto it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My unit of tritanium is not an "asset."
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution 51	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:30:00 - [27] - Quote Demolishar wrote: [quote=Wrayeth][quote=Demolishar] I have a unit of tritanium. I've had it for a long time. I care about it. I love it. I take it everywhere with me. I'm going to hold onto it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My unit of tritanium is not an "asset." While that's your prerogative, I would point out that that unit of tritanium does not represent your entire existence in EVE. It has not been the means through which you interact with the cluster. It is not the face your friends and enemies know you by. It is not something you've been progressively customizing over a decade. In short, that unit of tritanium is not "you".
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc 362	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:44:00 - [28] - Quote Demolishar wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=277 Sell your char, buy a lower SP char, get lower clone costs AND a nice lump sum left over as well. Cant tell if you are serious or trolling. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Demolishar United Aggression 742	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:51:00 - [29] - Quote Wrayeth wrote: Demolishar wrote: [quote=Wrayeth][quote=Demolishar] I have a unit of tritanium. I've had it for a long time. I care about it. I love it. I take it everywhere with me. I'm going to hold onto it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My unit of tritanium is not an "asset." While that's your prerogative, I would point out that that unit of tritanium does not represent your entire existence in EVE. It has not been the means through which you interact with the cluster. It is not the face your friends and enemies know you by. It is not something you've been progressively customizing over a decade. In short, that unit of tritanium is not "you". Most people I know don't even own their original character any more.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 3471	Posted - 2013.01.23 19:38:00 - [30] - Quote Demolishar wrote: Wrayeth wrote: Demolishar wrote: [quote=Wrayeth][quote=Demolishar] I have a unit of tritanium. I've had it for a long time. I care about it. I love it. I take it everywhere with me. I'm going to hold onto it until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. My unit of tritanium is not an "asset." While that's your prerogative, I would point out that that unit of tritanium does not represent your entire existence in EVE. It has not been the means through which you interact with the cluster. It is not the face your friends and enemies know you by. It is not something you've been progressively customizing over a decade. In short, that unit of tritanium is not "you". Most people I know don't even own their original character any more. Thread over, your anecdotal experience trumps everything, clearly. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm

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