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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2402
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Posted - 2013.01.23 18:31:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Andski wrote:but seriously if you want game content so much, we can bring both coalitions to Jita with 6000 Tornadoes
that way you hiseccers will also enjoy content that would otherwise be restricted to 0.0 Please do this!
I for one welcome our Nado-spamming nullsec goonstablishment overlards.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1660
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:25:00 -
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Mac Omac wrote: Can you imagine a day where forum beefs/arguments/trolls/flames are no more, and are replaced by loving, kind words expressing our positive emotions?
This one made me laugh. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7343
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:31:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Andski wrote:i also find it hilarious that you're saying that suicide ganking, which is named as such because of a mechanic meant to discourage nonconsensual PvP in hisec, is part of what makes eve a "pvp game" Almost seems like you'd prefer to not go to war to shoot someone else's property in order to preserve the integrity of OTEC or something. Or wait, that's right... "mechanics" of sov make's it "boring". Much more fun NOT pvping unless it's agreed I forgot. Nevermind the fact that other ships wouldn't show up to defend or anything. We don't want to step on the toes of our superbff's or insult anyone! Totally innocent question; have you ever participated in a sov war? Yes.
Your lifetime record of 10 kills and 21 losses, all in T1 sub-BS ships in Empire suggests otherwise. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
252
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:33:00 -
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http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1977/imagep5gx.gif "it put ore down in can or it gets the hose again"
Leeloo Dallas Multipass - "Big bada boom"
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Merelle
Sisters Association
2
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:01:00 -
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Back to the original subject. While most people here seem to have accepted the GSF-spin on the matter, quite a different picture emerge if listening to neutral sources. Apparently, the Mittani has had his eyes on Test for quite some time now. GSF and Test have quite the similar structure and culture which means that Test would be the ideal procurement as GSF could swallow them whole with very little adjustments.
What actually transpired the last few weeks was the advancement of an elaborate scheme to discredit and dispose of Montolio, the leader of Test. If this fails, rumor has it that what been named "case blue" will spring into action.
Pease in our time?
no i dont think so.
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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
176
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:16:00 -
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Just Rvb it for now, Goons are blue, Test is red, everybody in frigs and fight, meet in syndicate, atleast its something for now, blow off some steam, have fun in the process
Edit: just think of it, the biggest frig fight in EvE history. New Player retention is important to our community. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
369
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:23:00 -
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Sandbox is apparently not quite sandy enough for bloated bureaucracies.
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Ryuji Takemiya
Omni Tech Industries Initiative Associates
19
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:33:00 -
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Merelle wrote:Back to the original subject. While most people here seem to have accepted the GSF-spin on the matter, quite a different picture emerge if listening to neutral sources. Apparently, the Mittani has had his eyes on Test for some time now. GSF and Test have rather similar structure and culture which means that Test would be the ideal procurement as GSF could swallow them whole with very little adjustments.
What actually transpired the last few weeks was the advancement of an elaborate scheme to discredit and dispose of Montolio, the leader of Test. If this fails, rumor has it that what been named "case blue" will spring into action.
Peace in our time?
no i dont think so.
That's a bit more tinfoil than I'm comfortable with, but I would say that TEST definately took a hit from all the sabre-rattling. Montolio blew the conch shell and his people didn't show up to back him. That's the perceived view here, making CFC not only look strong; but then throwing in some Red vs Blue action to placate the masses too.
Certainly a meta-gaming masterstroke by Mittani. Congradulations on the maneuver |
Gianna Thirostin
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:36:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:It is actually quite enlightening, now that their actions have proven how risk-adverse the null sec power blocs are. "Oh no's, we can't touch each other's infrastructure, because that would hurt."
But given their propaganda machine, I figure they will have buried this little non-war in about a week.
Nah, they dont want it buried. They timed it so they could point at this "attempt at war" as the reason CCP should "fix sov" this summer when its their content that made null what it is today |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
176
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:39:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Sandbox is apparently not quite sandy enough for bloated bureaucracies.
Are you saying a couple of people are stopping thousands from having fun, nah it can't be New Player retention is important to our community. |
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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:40:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Just Rvb it for now, Goons are blue, Test is red, everybody in frigs and fight, meet in syndicate, atleast its something for now, blow off some steam, have fun in the process Edit: just think of it, the biggest frig fight in EvE history.
So duel issue is problem ,but arranged fights are not? If you want RvB join them.
Anyway consensual pvp will be now cool I guess,even people that spited on that the most are now ok with that since last night .All that cause SOV structure grinding is boring and CCP is to blame cause they will not fight awww.
Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure.
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Dave Stark
1660
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:49:00 -
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Ana Fox wrote:Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure. you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
244
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Andski wrote:i also find it hilarious that you're saying that suicide ganking, which is named as such because of a mechanic meant to discourage nonconsensual PvP in hisec, is part of what makes eve a "pvp game" Almost seems like you'd prefer to not go to war to shoot someone else's property in order to preserve the integrity of OTEC or something. Or wait, that's right... "mechanics" of sov make's it "boring". Much more fun NOT pvping unless it's agreed I forgot. Nevermind the fact that other ships wouldn't show up to defend or anything. We don't want to step on the toes of our superbff's or insult anyone! Totally innocent question; have you ever participated in a sov war? Yes. Your lifetime record of 10 kills and 21 losses, all in T1 sub-BS ships in Empire suggests otherwise.
If you look up my post history, I did mention playing Eve when it first came out while I was playing Everquest. This account is only going on 7 months old, and not based on pvp (which I end up doing anyways). "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |
Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:52:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Ana Fox wrote:Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure. you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option.
Yes ofc ,but you cant say that is main reason like it was all over forum today . |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
381
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:56:00 -
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Gianna Thirostin wrote:Nah, they dont want it buried. They timed it so they could point at this "attempt at war" as the reason CCP should "fix sov" this summer when its their content that made null what it is today From what I gather this little spat has been brewing since June/July of 2012. That is a lot of tinfoil for a long con, to show CCP how bad Dominion sov sucks.
CCP Greyscale wrote:GÇóMaking something tedious will not stop players doing it if it's very clearly the best option. They'll do it, and they'll hate it GùªSee: everything involving starbases, Dominion sov warfare.
Clearly the best option was to NOT go to war, if at all possible, otherwise we would be seeing people blow up structures cause it's "fun" and not an eye gougingly tedious grind. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Dave Stark
1660
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:04:00 -
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Ana Fox wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Ana Fox wrote:Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure. you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option. Yes ofc ,but you cant say that is main reason like it was all over forum today .
sure it is. people want to blow each other up, and sov mechanics are crap. that's why instead of invading each other they're going to turn up to a set location at a set time and then shoot each other rather than "playing the game properly" "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
16
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:33:00 -
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Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.
I got lost, sorry. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
961
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:48:00 -
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Myrissa Kistel wrote:Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.
I got lost, sorry.
The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same. It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.
Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.
Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community. It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.
Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.
The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group. This week's events prove that. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
939
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:52:00 -
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Cute, but you guys in highsec are still the bottom of the barrel. Sorry.[/quote]
That would depend upon which way up the barrel is when one is looking at it. This is not a signature. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
939
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:but seriously if you want game content so much, we can bring both coalitions to Jita with 6000 Tornadoes
that way you hiseccers will also enjoy content that would otherwise be restricted to 0.0
Do. This is not a signature. |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2259
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Posted - 2013.01.23 22:00:00 -
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Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....
Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....
Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....
...now back to the conformal grey goo that is nullsec.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
272
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Posted - 2013.01.23 22:14:00 -
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I guess they can go back to moaning about highsec players unwillingness to engage them in non-consensual PvP.
While carrying on making huge amounts of isk in super-safe null space! |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
441
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Posted - 2013.01.23 22:40:00 -
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Given what happened the last time PL tried to headshot VFK, plus the fact they'd be facing the sov grinding behemoth of DBRB, it was never going to come to a full on sov-war. Suprirsed anyone thought otherwise really.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
754
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Posted - 2013.01.23 22:51:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:please, provide me with a link of a post proving any RMT activity.
Google search for "eve rmt" yields 1,350,000 results. Hmmm let's see...
How about CCP's own devblog where the claim to have banned 6200 RMTers back in 2009?
Nice little article on the magnitude of botting and CCP's campaign against RMT. Be sure to read the first comment.
Or heck, just skip all that and head straight over to Iskbank and get yourself a proper CCP lifetime banning if you really want to test the strength of your denial.
Or... and read fast because CCP will no doubt either erase all of this or lock the thread. Sorry. EvE Forum Bingo |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
366
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:12:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group. This week's events prove that.
It isn't risk aversion, it is boredom aversion.
Sov grinding just isn't fun. It is a lot like mining. Lock on to unmoving object and sit there for hours. Boring.
Montolio wanted a sov grind, and all the parties that would end up having to fleet up to do the grinding (GSF and PL) said "No".
Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1513
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:14:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles.
So, you're both consenting to being attacked?
Iiiiinteresting. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
117
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:16:00 -
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Anyone who honestly believed that Test or Goons would risk what they are sitting on top of, knowing that the golden well will dry up in a few years (Once CCP is bought out by someone who actually fixes the moon goo situation, or some miracle happens and they listen to the advice of market and trend analysts instead of doing what they think will work), knew that there wouldnt be a war.
Cooler heads were sure to prevail, once each side thought about potential isk disruption. Spice must flow, yo. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
366
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:19:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles. So, you're both consenting to being attacked? Iiiiinteresting.
That's the idea. So long as it is shooting spaceships and not structures.
Granted, some alliances in CFC have already been neutral to parts of HBC for months now, so for some it is just business as usual. The only real news is avoiding another long boring sov grind. And that is good, because between the 2 blocs, they have ground 8 some regions over the past year. Grinding structures is not the content we want to be creating right now. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
494
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:19:00 -
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Another terrible thread from another NPC douche...
Ho wait...
No, it's still dam horrible.
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++ |
Dave Stark
1661
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:25:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Dave Stark wrote:please, provide me with a link of a post proving any RMT activity. Google search for "eve rmt" yields 1,350,000 results. Hmmm let's see... How about CCP's own devblog where the claim to have banned 6200 RMTers back in 2009? Nice little article on the magnitude of botting and CCP's campaign against RMT. Be sure to read the first comment. Or heck, just skip all that and head straight over to Iskbank and get yourself a proper CCP lifetime banning if you really want to test the strength of your denial. Or... and read fast because CCP will no doubt either erase all of this or lock the thread. Sorry.
i wasn't denying that RMT happens.
i was mainly asking the person implying the whole "lets not shoot each other" thing was caused by RMT, of which he provided 0 proof (probably because there is none) "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
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