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Ambrocio Hanaya
Belmont Consortium
0
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:26:00 -
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I've seen the rumor of this happening alot even in my local area. I am pretty new but I see how much things cost and know what it would be like for a major war like this to happen. Trillions of ISK lost? Who would really want to risk that?!
Someday though someone will remember that this is a game and not real life, and they will get tired of being bored all the time. Gather 500 like minded people and make a bloody mess all over the place.
The only thing in this universe that can cause alot of damage is bored and dedicated people driven by a purpose and a plan. |
Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:14:00 -
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DIdn't know players were out in Null sec. Last time I heard it was dead. |
Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
72
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:25:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:DIdn't know players were out in Null sec. Last time I heard it was dead.
Nope , that is low sec. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
370
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:37:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:DIdn't know players were out in Null sec. Last time I heard it was dead.
It is.
This is just an agreement to share time molesting the corpse. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1539
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:44:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:You are right. It worked out better than we imagined.
Prices didn't even hiccup, so that killed the fantasy of disrupting anything whatsoever. I think in the end there were more goons on the receiving end of killmails than any other group.
But it was awfully nice for you all to broaden your horizons and enjoy some hisec content. You're welcome back any time. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Mac Omac
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:46:00 -
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Dear Children the new null sec love is happening as we speak
The pretend fight games are underway and love is being spread all around
Why can't the forums follow the new example of the new EVE LOVE
I urge our nullsec overlords to bring the NEW LOVE to the forums, just as sov/moon taking was eradicated, trolls and flames must be dealt with the same way
THE NEW LOVE IS HERE TO STAY! |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
225
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:27:00 -
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This says more about the sov mechanics than anything.
We like shooting spaceships, not structures.
We can still shoot goons as much as we want.
Nobodoy "likes" sov warfare in its current state |
Dave Stark
1702
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:33:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Nobodoy "likes" sov warfare in its current state
inb4 that didn't stop test invading delve, etc. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
804
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:27:00 -
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What changes to sov mechanics will make the null sec alliance leaders fight?
The only changes I hear from them is "farms and fields" which sounds like making null sec more of a carebear grazing land.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
369
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:38:00 -
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Cearain wrote:What changes to sov mechanics will make the null sec alliance leaders fight?
The only changes I hear from them is "farms and fields" which sounds like making null sec more of a carebear grazing land.
There are 2 points to adding to the "carebear grazing land" of nullsec;
(1) To promote bottom up alliance income, so that nullsec groups have to undock and use there space rather than rely on moons while the line members goof off on highsec alts.
(2) To promote undocking and doing stuff in space to an extant that roaming gangs can not only find targets, but that (going back to point 1) doing so will financially hurt a nullsec organization, giving some value to hit and run guerrilla tactics. |
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1539
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:42:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:We like shooting spaceships, not structures.
Then why do you blue everyone instead of shooting their spaceships? No one is forcing you to shoot their structures if you don't want to. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2645
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:49:00 -
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the secret goal of 'farms and fields' is
- get nullsec players doing their pve in null instead of highsec - so that we can raze each others' fields and burn down their farms and wreck their ability to supply themselves and engender real buttmad feelings within rival 0.0 alliances
I disagree with the term 'farms and fields' because the phrase is distinctly non-industrial, and I believe the solution lies within fixing POSs and boosting null industry, not 'farming', but whatever.
some of the highseccer extremists think its all a conspiracy to get them specifically to roll down in their npc corp mining toon around catch so we can all highfive each other on some mackinaw kill. really though, you can stay in highsec - you aren't wanted. your input isn't needed |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1470
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:51:00 -
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Cearain wrote:What changes to sov mechanics will make the null sec alliance leaders fight?
Ones that don't lead to their rank and file members spending every day shooting tens of millions of hitpoints in stationary structures, over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Quote:The only changes I hear from them is "farms and fields" which sounds like making null sec more of a carebear grazing land. And the point of 'farms and fields' is that they, and/or the alliance members using them, become targets for hostiles to catch and kill, which incentivises roaming gangs and defence gangs to counter them. Rather than today, where the only way to weaken or annoy or provoke a response from a hostile power is shooting tens of millions of hitpoints in their stationary structures, over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1539
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:56:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:get nullsec players doing their pve in null instead of highsec
0.0 has already been made more profitable than hisec by several magnitudes when people claimed it would solve every problem, and by scurrying to safety whenever a stranger enters local you're even safer there than hisec. Everyone knows this.
CCP can even check the numbers if they have to, and see how many people are turning their nose up at 0.0 income and instead running L4s on an alt. To think you can fool them again is ridiculous. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6477
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:59:00 -
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what's it like when you speculate blindly on nullsec gameplay without having dipped a toe outside of the safety of highsec ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1539
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:what's it like when you speculate blindly on nullsec gameplay without having dipped a toe outside of the safety of highsec
You put the ass in assume.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
369
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:12:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Andski wrote:what's it like when you speculate blindly on nullsec gameplay without having dipped a toe outside of the safety of highsec You put the ass in assume.
So do you.
There are only a handful of anomalies that are a sure-thing better than highsec PvE income. Most everything else, especially anything that involves getting items that must be sold for isk, adds an annoying layer of nullsec logistics. 23 jumps in a blockade runner to get those OSE's and deadspace mods to Jita kills your isk/hr.
If general nullsec income were so great, you wouldn't see so many complaints over true-sec, the anomaly nerf, bad industrial services, and massive moongoo wealth in the hands of the few. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1541
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:18:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:There are only a handful of anomalies that are a sure-thing better than highsec PvE income.
The much higher payouts you can get in 0.0 tends to balance that out.
But maybe try mining. Better isk/hour gathering ABC ore than there is doing L4s.
Always hearing about how hisec L4s are so very easy and boring, from 0.0 players, so mining should be no different. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2645
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:25:00 -
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Oh boy someone needs to sit Necran down and explain to him what 'opportunity cost' is |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3289
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:21:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Oh boy someone needs to sit Necran down and explain to him what 'opportunity cost' is It's something that's high enough I wouldn't bother spending the time to try such a feat. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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Steph Wing
Applied Agoraphobia
79
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:58:00 -
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The Mittani has secured peace for our time!
http://onebit.us/x/i/6xZeuuPG3j.png |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3291
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:15:00 -
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This will end well... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
311
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:17:00 -
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Ah business as usual. Should take more rl examples go turn over a 3rd world country for sport or **** off your own people and crush rebellions. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6478
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Posted - 2013.01.26 04:41:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:But maybe try mining. Better isk/hour gathering ABC ore than there is doing L4s.
mining arkanor is less than 60M/hour
and that's with a hulk with rorqual bonuses, after probing down a grav site and it assumes you're mining arkanor continuously
meanwhile, mining crokite and bistot is less profitable than mining scordite in 0.9, and a lot more effort ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3292
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Posted - 2013.01.26 04:49:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Nobodoy "likes" sov warfare in its current state inb4 that didn't stop test invading delve, etc. Honestly, I think that was sort of "our" fault because once Soco escalated to -A-'s "help" (haha), then HBC escalted to CFC help and suddenly all there was to shoot were structures.
And we all know what happens then, Boat goes on a freeding frenzy, so so speak and the rest is history as tons of sov got bulldozed before someone said "ok enough, we don't like shooting structures even if you do" Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
814
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:17:00 -
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My vision of a better sov system is to move away from structure bashing and more to small-large scale pve/pvp.
The first thing i would do is make sov based on a slide not on an absolute number.
The second thing i would do is rework annoms into group pve with enhanced AI like incursions.
To gain Sov you as a corp or alliance will have to complete various annoms and clear them of rats to maintain sov...
The annoms would have restrictions on amount of ships and size restrictions that would scale from 5 cruisers on the small level all the way to unlimited when you get to the largest annom which has the tcu in it but you dont shoot the tcu you have to kill the npc (who are in capital ships now) and fight the defending fleet...
As an added bonus on the higher tier annoms there would be a chance based system that would drop a tech II BPC of a meta 2-4 mod.
Note. Tech II meta 2-4 mods can only be made in 0.0 and only in a pos or outpost that is in a owned system.
pretty much this would take sov away from structure grind to all levels of pvp/pve that is group based and dynamic.
i would also add more ihub upgrades to make 0.0 industry worth the effort and risk.
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2646
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:37:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:My vision of a better sov system is to move away from structure bashing and more to small-large scale pve/pvp.
The first thing i would do is make sov based on a slide not on an absolute number.
The second thing i would do is rework annoms into group pve with enhanced AI like incursions.
To gain Sov you as a corp or alliance will have to complete various annoms and clear them of rats to maintain sov...
The annoms would have restrictions on amount of ships and size restrictions that would scale from 5 cruisers on the small level all the way to unlimited when you get to the largest annom which has the tcu in it but you dont shoot the tcu you have to kill the npc (who are in capital ships now) and fight the defending fleet... the goal is 'make sov warfare more fun' somehow you aimed for that and ended up at 'tons of ratting-based sov' |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2646
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:38:00 -
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'CFC defeated by The Jagged Allliance, experts credit warmaster rmfhorus for brilliant sov defense' |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
373
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:43:00 -
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Andski wrote:Bane Necran wrote:But maybe try mining. Better isk/hour gathering ABC ore than there is doing L4s. mining arkanor is less than 60M/hour and that's with a hulk with rorqual bonuses, after probing down a grav site and it assumes you're mining arkanor continuously meanwhile, mining crokite and bistot is less profitable than mining scordite in 0.9, and a lot more effort pretty sure L4s pay more than that
Yah, I love how people throw around "ABC ores" like they are magic. Oh, and they never factor in the time and cost of getting this stuff to a market.
And the A part of that is the _only_ one that is worth more isk/hr than commonly available highsec ores.
And unlike missions, you can't just dock up and get an NPC agent to just hand you a bookmark to the next site.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3293
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:51:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Andski wrote:Bane Necran wrote:But maybe try mining. Better isk/hour gathering ABC ore than there is doing L4s. mining arkanor is less than 60M/hour and that's with a hulk with rorqual bonuses, after probing down a grav site and it assumes you're mining arkanor continuously meanwhile, mining crokite and bistot is less profitable than mining scordite in 0.9, and a lot more effort pretty sure L4s pay more than that Yah, I love how people throw around "ABC ores" like they are magic. Oh, and they never factor in the time and cost of getting this stuff to a market. And the A part of that is the _only_ one that is worth more isk/hr than commonly available highsec ores. And unlike missions, you can't just dock up and get an NPC agent to just hand you a bookmark to the next site. SURPRISE, you should be in highsec!!!!! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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