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celebro
Confederate States of Eve
49
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:17:00 -
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What's the point on risking attribute boosters, if they bring no advantage to pvp?
Hard wiring implants are fine, they do provide an advantage, but attribute boosters should be removed from game or pod. They provide bonuses which has nothing directly linked to what you can accomplish in space. At least this way we are all on a level playing field in regards to skill training , either if I decide to go to pvp areas or not.
Put it this way: when fitting a ship you might want to risk expensive mods or rigs to give you that edge that's fine. Attributes won't help you much though. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:31:00 -
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celebro wrote:What's the point on risking attribute boosters, if they bring no advantage to pvp?
Hard wiring implants are fine, they do provide an advantage, but attribute boosters should be removed from game or pod. They provide bonuses which has nothing directly linked to what you can accomplish in space. At least this way we are all on a level playing field in regards to skill training , either if I decide to go to pvp areas or not.
Put it this way: when fitting a ship you might want to risk expensive mods or rigs to give you that edge that's fine. Attributes won't help you much though.
You dont consider having a faster skill que to be an advantage?
Personaly I think that attribute boosters should be removed from the game entirely, they further compound the already significant problem of power creep. I dont want to do this because I feel the playing field is unfair, only because I feel that real pilot skills and experience should trump in game advantages. That is another thread though.
Your idea of altering the game to minimize your own risk exposure, even though it is the same risk that everyone else is exposed to, is sickening to me. And this from a guy that just finished a 5 day thread on making PLEX safe for noobs.
If you dont want to play on the big tables then take your chips and go to the arcade section. Or I guess in your case just stay there.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Jaiimez Skor
I N E X T R E M I S
Fidelas Constans
57
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:38:00 -
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celebro wrote:Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.
I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.
First of all...
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/1313938.jpg
Secondly...
Getting your POD out in lowsec is a piece of cake, no bubbles there is no reason to lose your pod unless someone has a very well timed smartbomb or you're just an idiot.
Stop crying. |
celebro
Confederate States of Eve
49
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:55:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:
If you dont want to play on the big tables then take your chips and go to the arcade section. Or I guess in your case just stay there.
This is the attitude that really boggles my mind sometimes, this is not about me, but ideas I think improves the game making it easier for new players and other people that refuse to make 100 or so decisions before they can even be competitive. I have lived in WH and null sec, never seen any reason yet to live in low sec though. So please don't lecture me how easy it is to escape in a pod or to spam warp when on structure.
Edit: BTW do you realize attribute boosters are just a skill grind in disguise? |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:16:00 -
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celebro wrote:
This is the attitude that really boggles my mind sometimes, this is not about me, but ideas I think improves the game making it easier for new players and other people that refuse to make 100 or so decisions before they can even be competitive. I have lived in WH and null sec, never seen any reason yet to live in low sec though. So please don't lecture me how easy it is to escape in a pod or to spam warp when on structure
New players are not competitive in Eve due to years of multiplicative advantages stacking up on older players. This power creep is an issue on the table at CCP, I don't know what their plan is or if they even have one. However in the rock paper scissors world of PvP there is always the chance for a new player to beat an old one depending on fits and tactics. But the greater experience of older pilots generally keeps them out of such fights, or if they do engage they have better chances to GTFO.
If you want to make suggestions and consider changes then it might be better to ask rather than suggest. You could have opened this post differently. "Hi I am a carebear and I dont go to low to PvP because I fear for my implants. Are there any changes that have been considered to keep non-combat implants safe form destruction, or is there a way I can do that in game now?"
People would then tell you how to minimise risk to your implants. And how to fly in lowsec and learn how to operate there.
The thing that is unpleasant about your thread is that you assume that lowseccers want you there. Lowsec sucks, its dangerous, the ISK is the worst in the game, you spend a lot of time hiding and running. But for those of us that like that sort of play its the only place to be. Your suggestion seeks to "improve the game by making easier" I think is how you put it. If you want easy then stay in highsec and run missions. The rest of Eve is hard. And easy is not what most players here are looking for.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
802
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:19:00 -
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celebro wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:
If you dont want to play on the big tables then take your chips and go to the arcade section. Or I guess in your case just stay there.
This is the attitude that really boggles my mind sometimes, this is not about me, but ideas I think improves the game making it easier for new players and other people that refuse to make 100 or so decisions before they can even be competitive. I have lived in WH and null sec, never seen any reason yet to live in low sec though. So please don't lecture me how easy it is to escape in a pod or to spam warp when on structure. Edit: BTW do you realize attribute boosters are just a skill grind in disguise?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:24:00 -
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celebro wrote:
Edit: BTW do you realize attribute boosters are just a skill grind in disguise?
Yes. I wear them when they drop, but I dont really care about skilling up faster than the other guy. To me they are fun loot not something that I must have. There's some players I can beat and some I can run away from. Seems fair to me.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Eternal Error
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
336
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:27:00 -
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Getting podded in lowsec is uncommon if you don't suck.
Also, implants are a luxury, not a necessity. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:25:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:The solution, nerf highsec isk fountain falls . Remove jump clones from the game.
Problem solved.
But if Jump clones are removed how are Black legion going to get home? |
Captain Death1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2013.01.27 21:04:00 -
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just don't go to null are low sec  now its fixed see how easy life can be |
Aza Ebanu
Crunchy Crunchy
Peregrine Nation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.28 07:28:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Simple:
Don't go there.
If you still want to move there a couple hours:
Find 10/15 friends with hard hitting stuff, logis, ECM and watch most of those uber elite crowd disappear and kiss safe spots/POS/stations.
Most of them don't want fights, they want to shoot helpless ships or only attack with superior numbers, this is Eve and this is the only valuable pvp form in the game: numbers
That's just not true. I get attacked on a regular basis while ratting. Solo pilots just out looking for a fight. They run away once they get close enough to understand that my ship is often not a good target, and they seldomly come back with a gang. Just guys out looking for 1v1. *there are the rat packs and multi boxers with stealth scouts out there. Just have to do a quick google search to spot them though.
Google search while playing a video game? LOL! |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 11:32:00 -
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If you keep your wits about you, there is absolutely nothing to be afraid of in low sec.
If you can't be arsed to stay alert, however, you will be fair game. This is how it should be.
If you can't handle the suspense, you will never experience the rush of a narrow escape or a the joy of landing a tackle at the very end of an overheated point.
It's only the beginning that is a little tricky because you are inexperienced, but if you're not up to the challenge, by all means, stay in high sec. |
Dave Stark
1747
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Posted - 2013.01.28 11:36:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Simple:
Don't go there.
If you still want to move there a couple hours:
Find 10/15 friends with hard hitting stuff, logis, ECM and watch most of those uber elite crowd disappear and kiss safe spots/POS/stations.
Most of them don't want fights, they want to shoot helpless ships or only attack with superior numbers, this is Eve and this is the only valuable pvp form in the game: numbers
That's just not true. I get attacked on a regular basis while ratting. Solo pilots just out looking for a fight. They run away once they get close enough to understand that my ship is often not a good target, and they seldomly come back with a gang. Just guys out looking for 1v1. *there are the rat packs and multi boxers with stealth scouts out there. Just have to do a quick google search to spot them though. Google search while playing a video game? LOL!
that's what the in game browser is for.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
402
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Posted - 2013.01.28 11:59:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:that's what the in game browser is for.
Sure it is there, but the concept is pretty funny nevertheless  |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
74
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:14:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:
Google search while playing a video game? LOL!
Dr. Azbel is something of a hero to me.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
542
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:23:00 -
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celebro wrote:Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.
I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.
This is so stupid...I can barely believe that you actually are serious...and WHO DAFUQ changes into low implant clones in low sec? Thats the only place where everyone has a use for HQ slaves not using a cap...
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Dave Stark
1748
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:33:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Dave Stark wrote:that's what the in game browser is for. Sure it is there, but the concept is pretty funny nevertheless
guessing you're only used to playing CoD not games with real game mechanics?
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Irya Boone
The Scope
159
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:43:00 -
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due to recent events ..
one solution to get more people in lowsec ..... bring a lonely poor titan ...
Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Call Rollard
Grim Determination Academy
Nulli Tertius
24
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:39:00 -
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celebro wrote:Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.
I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.
I believe you will really hate to live in 0.0. |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
70
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Posted - 2013.01.29 00:44:00 -
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Flying in lowsec either for PVP or Indie is simple you just need a half a brain cell to do it right. Lowsec does not need a nerf or a buff. just pilots who are willing to risk their stuff. I know of many INDIE players and corps that live in lowsec. it is.... not.... that.... hard  |
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