Don't plug in what you can't afford to lose.

don't want to risk your implants? then you don't get the reward of dicking about in low sec.

simple.

Or just learn how to save your friggen pod in low sec....

always find it funny when someone has a legimate suggestion to get more highseccers into low/null they always get hammered by the same nullbears who dont want any change. But at the same time are whining they arent enough highseccers leaving for low/null.

Seriously guys, make up your mind.

always find it funny when someone has a legimate suggestion to get more highseccers into low/null they always get hammered by the same nullbears who dont want any change. But at the same time are whining they arent enough highseccers leaving for low/null.

Seriously guys, make up your mind.

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.

except it isn't a legitimate suggestion to get more people in to low / null. it's a suggestion that will let him do as he pleases without consequence.

always find it funny when someone has a legimate suggestion to get more highseccers into low/null they always get hammered by the same nullbears who dont want any change. But at the same time are whining they arent enough highseccers leaving for low/null.

Seriously guys, make up your mind.

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

I already enter low sec with little consequences , I clone jump but it's a PITA to do so. I could spam warp on a pod, and get safe. I'm not going to do it with a full set of +5s.

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

Same goes for you as the guy above .. it is not because people find the idea bad that they are low-wsec or null-sec habitants.

You are not forced to plug in implants on all your clones , it is your own choice to do so.With that choice comes consequence.

I already enter low sec with little consequences , I clone jump but it's a PITA to do so. I could spam warp on a pod, and get safe. I'm not going to do it with a full set of +5s.

I already enter low sec with little consequences , I clone jump but it's a PITA to do so. I could spam warp on a pod, and get safe. I'm not going to do it with a full set of +5s.

The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Congratulaions OP, you just failed to grasp the entire point of the game: consequences.

I already enter low sec with little consequences , I clone jump but it's a PITA to do so. I could spam warp on a pod, and get safe. I'm not going to do it with a full set of +5s.

I am ALWAYS against ALL changes, and as soon someone suggests something, let's hammer it down!

This is really a helpful post, don't you think? Just like some others already in this thread.

I'll take the consequences when I see more rewards.


edit: Its official now, low seccers care more about the implant market than actually have more players active in low sec, this is not all about me but all players like me who refuse to lose implants.

I'll take the consequences when I see more rewards.


edit: Its official now, low seccers care more about the implant market than actually have more players active in low sec, this is not all about me but all players like me who refuse to lose implants.

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.

So far i mostly see null and empire people responding so YET AGAIN for the third time in this thread it is not because someone disagrees with your idea that they are habitants of low-sec.

MY GOD , lill stubborn are we or trolltastic ?

always find it funny when someone has a legimate suggestion to get more highseccers into low/null they always get hammered by the same nullbears who dont want any change. But at the same time are whining they arent enough highseccers leaving for low/null.

Seriously guys, make up your mind.

i fail to see the connection between the location of the poster, and the fact that this idea is terrible?

Wich is what i'm saying dave but somehow the ones who support this idea think anyone who is an empire boy MUST be a supporter of the idea.

I wouldn't go into low sec without a jump clone.

OP does speak truth somewhat.

I wouldn't go into low sec without a jump clone.

Truth be told that despite the align and warp to body trick, that there are people who do fly in these fleets that have ships with very fast lock times and do understand how to turn on their point before they start locking and can catch a pod or two.

I think jump clones are the best solution but in order for new players to get involved they should reduce the standings requirement of installing a jump clone somewhere.

You're a bad eve player, suggesting CCP do his.

Learn to make more isk with les effort, or use a clone with cheaper implants.

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

OP does speak truth somewhat.

I wouldn't go into low sec without a jump clone.

Truth be told that despite the align and warp to body trick, that there are people who do fly in these fleets that have ships with very fast lock times and do understand how to turn on their point before they start locking and can catch a pod or two.

I think jump clones are the best solution but in order for new players to get involved they should reduce the standings requirement of installing a jump clone somewhere.

Wow like there's so much rewards in low sec!!

if there are no rewards in low sec, why are you going there? as such, why are you worried about losing your pod?
you make no sense.

because the reason of going to lowsec is only isk. wow youre so hardcore, you want a bananasticker?

if the only reason to go to low sec is for isk, why is he worried about losing implants, he will have the isk to replace them?
i honestly don't understand what he is talking about.

The way to get more pilots into lowsec is for players to relax their sphincters.

The rewards are no where close to risk +5 implants. Anyways if its so easy to get away, what difference would it make to the podders, if i get to keep my implants. Something fishy going on, I see pods kills in low sec all the time on the eve map.

EDIT:Anyways I want to see whats out there from time to time, not for the isk, just to explore and have some fun. Maybe I spend an hour maybe 10mins, not enough reason to Clone jump.

You are a ******* moron.
I will bet my wallet that without killboards.
People still get killed and podded.

Post with your main coward.

People rarely change , games do.

I'm not going to clone jump to poke my head in low sec for 5 mins. Clone jumping is broken cool down period of 24hrs is way too much.

How to beat that and go into low-sec? Get 10 guys together, destroy the gate camp, go into high - sec local and let people know the way into low is open and free of gate campers,

The rewards are no where close to risk +5 implants. Anyways if its so easy to get away, what difference would it make to the podders, if i get to keep my implants. Something fishy going on, I see pods kills in low sec all the time on the eve map.

EDIT:Anyways I want to see whats out there from time to time, not for the isk, just to explore and have some fun. Maybe I spend an hour maybe 10mins, not enough reason to Clone jump.

Or just learn how to save your friggen pod in low sec....

if it's so easy to get away, the difference to the podders is that they're deprived of a nice killmail when you **** up. you also don't get punished for ******* up, and you should be.

make an alt and take a rookie frig if you "just want to see what's there"

if the risk isn't worth it, jump to a different clone or don't go. stop asking the game to be made easier for you because you're risk averse or scared.

Did I ever claim to PvP? I skillfully avoid it. I've never claimed otherwise. However, this post is an excellent illustration of the kind of people that cause people like me to say low isn't worth the trouble what-so-ever.

As I said in my other post. Low is fun until l33t PvP idiots decide to stalk you because they have nothing better to do. Then its tedious and that isn't CCP's fault. The occasional encounter is fine. The occasional cat and mouse is fun. Its the attitude and the play style that comes with it. The station games, the gate camps, the gtfoing every time there is an iota of resistance and the local chat full of lines and lines of the kind of talk this guy displays. Nothing in low is worth that kind of annoyance.

Low is broken because of the people that congregate there. Not because of anything CCP did.

You must be really slow.

"The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards."

This is what i was addressing.
It is wrong. If you are too cowardly to post with your main character why do you post at all?
You are worse than pirates that camp gates. You are a ***** forum warrior.
You probably haven't even undocked with Diamond Bull and likely don't plan to.
You are what needs to go. You and all the alt warriors that claim they know it all.

Why not just make an alt, don't train it at all, and send it to Low Sec every few minutes, where it gets killed?

Well, that would make you happy, but I really don't care about your happiness.

EDIT: Sorry. That may sound un-friendly, but you certainly don't care about any of the parts of the game that I enjoy. And I pay the same fees that you do.

Don't want implant loss? Then either learn how to avoid it, or don't fly with what you cannot afford to lose.

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

I'm leaning more and more towards removing JCs as a means of storing implant sets GÇö one set goes for all clones GÇö and instead give implants a limited ability to be unplugged, probably based on some completely different timer that can then be manipulated and balanced separately from the JC timerGǪ and maybe a nice install cost as well.

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

Dear CCP,


The people in Low actually don't want more people in Low unless those people are hindered by the game in ways that makes them easily exploitable. The people of Low only want more easy ganks to pad their killboards. They do not actually want more people to fight. They want more people to kill. In order to improve the population of Low you must get rid of these people who are interested in only easy high profit/low risk kills. I have no idea how to do this. Maybe by increasing the risk that Pirates must experience in order to set a trap on a gate or a station?

Nah, that wouldn't work.

Moral of the story? Low is only broken because of the asshats that have populated it.


Toodles!

Simple:

Don't go there.

If you still want to move there a couple hours:

Find 10/15 friends with hard hitting stuff, logis, ECM and watch most of those uber elite crowd disappear and kiss safe spots/POS/stations.
Most of them don't want fights, they want to shoot helpless ships or only attack with superior numbers, this is Eve and this is the only valuable pvp form in the game: numbers

In what way is losing implants fun?

In what way does the victim NOT losing their implants deminish the fun for the podder?

In what way does encouraging people to sit in station or high sec to avoid losing implants that:
a: are a must. (some of you plebs forget that)
b: cost as much as a faction bb.

....

What's the point on risking attribute boosters, if they bring no advantage to pvp?

Hard wiring implants are fine, they do provide an advantage, but attribute boosters should be removed from game or pod. They provide bonuses which has nothing directly linked to what you can accomplish in space. At least this way we are all on a level playing field in regards to skill training , either if I decide to go to pvp areas or not.

Put it this way: when fitting a ship you might want to risk expensive mods or rigs to give you that edge that's fine. Attributes won't help you much though.

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.

If you dont want to play on the big tables then take your chips and go to the arcade section. Or I guess in your case just stay there.

This is the attitude that really boggles my mind sometimes, this is not about me, but ideas I think improves the game making it easier for new players and other people that refuse to make 100 or so decisions before they can even be competitive. I have lived in WH and null sec, never seen any reason yet to live in low sec though. So please don't lecture me how easy it is to escape in a pod or to spam warp when on structure

This is the attitude that really boggles my mind sometimes, this is not about me, but ideas I think improves the game making it easier for new players and other people that refuse to make 100 or so decisions before they can even be competitive. I have lived in WH and null sec, never seen any reason yet to live in low sec though. So please don't lecture me how easy it is to escape in a pod or to spam warp when on structure.


Edit: BTW do you realize attribute boosters are just a skill grind in disguise?

Edit: BTW do you realize attribute boosters are just a skill grind in disguise?

The solution, nerf highsec isk fountain falls . Remove jump clones from the game.

Problem solved.

That's just not true. I get attacked on a regular basis while ratting. Solo pilots just out looking for a fight. They run away once they get close enough to understand that my ship is often not a good target, and they seldomly come back with a gang. Just guys out looking for 1v1.

*there are the rat packs and multi boxers with stealth scouts out there. Just have to do a quick google search to spot them though.

Google search while playing a video game? LOL!

that's what the in game browser is for.

Google search while playing a video game? LOL!

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.

Sure it is there, but the concept is pretty funny nevertheless

Remove implant loses from pod kills. I hate to clone jump in a low implant clone just to transport some goods or have a peek at low sec to fool around. I am sure there are many players who would like to enter low sec for a few hours, at lower risks, without the inconvenience to change clones. It would also encourage those who don't have a clone too.

I don't mind losing my ship, I always take what I can afford to lose and usually its just an impulse or spur of the moment thing, and not something I plan a whole day to do.