how about... jump out to a safe system? Stop logging off with hostiles in system?

As my esteemed brother says.. I see no downside.

That's just dumb.

Realistically, once inside the POS bubble, my character wouldn't go "DRRRRR, I WARP OUTSIDE NOW LOLOL11" the minute I log off.

Your character doesn't do this anyway.

It's been 2 years (if not longer) since your ship warped out of a POS when you log off. You log off in place.

What I'm trying to say is:

"lol ur dum"

Steady now. It sounds like you're expecting a supercap pilot to know how to play as well as grind up/buy the ISK for their ship.

Now that's hardly reasonable is it?

You do warp off, you just don't see it, and aren't scannable. Why do you think you warp back after logging back in? You don't just pop up at the POS again.

Now do you trust these changes not to **** that up?

You. Log. Off. In. Place.

You disappear inside the POS, and then warp back in, exactly where you logged off (bubbles are ineffective).

You disappear in place. Don't assume you aren't warped off invisibly. You wouldn't need to warp back to your POS after log in if you hadn't been warped off in the first place.

Now what happens when you battle -> go to POS -> log off in under 15 mins in the new system? Is your ship just gonna disappear or is it gonna do something stupid? I can almost guarantee it'll do something stupid, there will be multiple bug reports on Sisi, and it'll deploy unfixed.

No guys, a mechanic that has nothing to do with the nerfs will end up screwed up because forum poster Jada Maroo said so.

Haven't read the blog yet but by the sounds of peoples comments.

THe large alliances will continue to use SC's and Blob with them and the small alliances will put them in storage.

Yup winter is going to be interesting.

Indeed. Now you're getting it. * Pats on head *

Oh boy. My face sure is red.

I don't know whether to be delighted or horrified that there is this many supercapital pilots in the game with such a poor grasp on strategy and tactics. Seriously, the fear-mongering here is redonkulous.

Thank you everyone, for confirming once again that numbers and sizes have very little do to with increased amounts of thought put into battling it out, and that the make up of any fleet above 50 is about 90% terrified pilots who are completely dependent on the FC to wipe their asses for them. Seriously, I really dont care how big your 3p33n is or how many sp you have, if you're under the impression that supercarriers are now worthless than you deserve to either have it collect dust for eternity, or you deserve for it to die in a horrible fire.

Thank you CCP, for taking care of this. The scared supercap pilots who trained straight for the big stuff without every learning to, you know, PvP, deserve to be weeded out swiftly and severely when they dont put any thought into their drops, those pilots with a few brain cells and some balls o steel will be out scouting, planning, setting up cynos, primarying HIC's, and tactically handling these changes like champs.

To those nullsec jocks complaining that "if we lose subcap battle, we lose supercap battle" my advice is this - learn to fly smaller ships. You know, the ones that the other 95% of Eve players fly. Learn to fly them, and win. Yes, it is more difficult than jumping in a super, launching drones indefinitely, laughing at other players, than logging when things go south. Yes, its more difficult than hopping in an Abaddon and going down an alphabetical primary list and feeling like you're a badass cause you're with 500 others. But if you guys learn to actually PvP, and make independent decisions in a fleet situation, you might be able to instruct the subcap fleet that you'll need to defend yourself in how to do their job. And if your subcap buddies can't take out some HIC's or bubblers in time, well, thats your fault.

I think we're going to need a Tech 2 Noctis with tech 2 liquid extractors to gather all these tears come winter. I'm thrilled super pilots will actually have to pause for a bit and think before deploying their 'I WIN" buttons.

Everyone should be celebrating the triumph of tactics over resources. Eve is a great big sandbox and all, but just like all you people who said no "gold ammo" advantages, there likewise shouldn't be tactical advantages strictly because your Alliance owns more supers than the next. There should ALWAYS be a way for the clever smaller guy to get ahead, even against caps.

The scared supercap pilots who trained straight for the big stuff without every learning to, you know, PvP, deserve to be weeded out swiftly and severely when they dont put any thought into their drops, those pilots with a few brain cells and some balls o steel will be out scouting, planning, setting up cynos, primarying HIC's, and tactically handling these changes like champs

Thank you CCP, for taking care of this. The scared supercap pilots who trained straight for the big stuff without every learning to, you know, PvP, deserve to be weeded out swiftly and severely when they dont put any thought into their drops, those pilots with a few brain cells and some balls o steel will be out scouting, planning, setting up cynos, primarying HIC's, and tactically handling these changes like champs.

So with this nerf, supers can no longer defend themselves from subcaps, so now supers are committed for 23 hours once they cyno in if they lose the subcap battle.

[Citation Needed]

(Was this in the nerf announcement, or are you just too lazy to carry a second load of fuel and a cyno out?)

so 0.0 people are now complaining that they have to use tactics now?


Here lets break down tactics for the 0.0 people shall we?

Titan bridges in support fleet of recons and battleships to start jamming the enemy fleet.

Carriers and dreads jump in and start pounding the crap out of the enemy capitals.

Finally moms and titans jump in to make quick work of all those pesky triage carriers and the supers take down other supers.

The nerf is just going to make super cap pilots rely on their alliance for help now rather than wheee i have 25 fighter bombers and can kill anything.


Now if you all excuse me i have to go refit a moros and thanatos for battle with target painters.