Or you are being a woman or a suicide-risk carebear or GǪ

But the crux of the matter is that between the legal risk to CCP and the personal accountability and personal risk to the identified CSM candidate, CCP prefers to cover their arses rather than yours.

Issler had a stalker, but what are the chances that she would have ended up with a stalker regardless of CCP revealing real names up front? How many women play this game and have to put up with stackers despite never having communicated their personal details outside their social circles? I would be interested to know.

There are real world laws to protect people against real world interference such as stalking, nuisance calls, death threats, and so forth.

If you, dear reader, want to be on CSM and are not prepared to have your real identity discovered, perhaps you could arrange to field a sock puppet candidate?

If it is truly your position that a candidates RL experience and qualifications are irrelevant to the question of whether or not they will be an effective CSM, then I fear you will have great difficulty convincing CCP Xhagen of the merits of your case.

I'm glad you mentioned the resume thing: I actually peeked back at the candidacy threads of all y'all that were elected. A whopping 4 of 14 of you made any reference at all to your RL selves, and only yourself and Seleene went into any detail (Two Step just briefly mentioned his name and occupation, and Meissa just made a not-detailed mention of past jobs he's had as a developer). Even among those of you who released RL information, only Seleene's was any significant part of what they ran on (understandable given he was a former CCP dev). I don't think this whole "verifying RL credentials" thing is anywhere near as important as you're making it out to be.

Not only does it deter people who are worried about their RL names being linked to their online behavior but it also deters people who would use that information to harass CSM candidates and members - both have potential RL consequences.

I don't care what you call yourself in the mirror, if I meet you in person then I am going to call you Noah or Greg or Robert or Alex or Josh or whatever your actual name is. If you're going to represent a real community about a real video game that has real problems, you should probably expect that the company will want you to use your real name too. v0v

There's a big difference between being prepared to have your real identity discovered and making it widely available and authoritatively linked to your EVE personality.

Once upon a time my main reason for not running for CSM was that difference (nowadays everyone knows it anyway and I have no time). But -- I still know of few other high profile EVE FCs/leaders from other major alliance who have not ran either due to this pointless part of the process.

It seems utterly stupid to publish the RL names of CSM candidates and it's about time stupid was hammered out of the process.

Also Poetic we already ruled earlier in the thread, that trolls shouldn't be running for CSM.

How many current CSM actually included their real-life qualifications when running? I'm pretty sure nobody knows what Noah does for a job. I'm pretty sure writing a video game 30 years ago, back when all the man-power required was one or two people, is not a qualification. And what does Xhagen care what a CSMer does in real-life? He has no control over who is voted in or not.

I've made my RL qualifications pretty clear. I think I've even provided links to my current resume and even my patents in the 3D game space. I know for a fact if someone googled my RL name they would learn a heck of a lot about me.

As for the others, I think I've seen similar disclosures.

Issler

It's still a minority and not required. I believe someone else stated they looked into the candidacy posts of the 14 elected CSM and found only four using real-life experience as part of their platform.

The point is that real-life qualifications are not necessary. And it's certainly not something Xhagen would be concerned about, since he has no control (or does he *tinfoil*) over the elections.

Oh, and software patents are bad. They do not encourage innovation, they restrict it.

CCP should also develop some kind of pipe like network that connects all their computers, and allow data and other game type tech things to be sent to other computers, even though they are different rooms. Also they should upgrade to walkie talkies, that way they can still communicate even though, not in same room as well. Plus add finger print identification to their trash cans, so bums can't throw their trash away there so easily.

I read a tech magazine cover once, and used a TI-85 calculator in algrebra, eve-mail me for more tips.

How many current CSM actually included their real-life qualifications when running? I'm pretty sure nobody knows what Noah does for a job. I'm pretty sure writing a video game 30 years ago, back when all the man-power required was one or two people, is not a qualification. And what does Xhagen care what a CSMer does in real-life? He has no control over who is voted in or not.

To be fair, while I didn't mention it as much *this time*, I did bring it up when I was running for CSM6.

Having RL experience in programming/design can be very helpful for a CSM rep. It helps you to understand the scope of some changes, and to see why doing something like "fix corp roles" is actually a pretty damn hard problem. It certainly isn't required, though having at least one or two programmers on the CSM helps things, especially when we are talking about the API/CREST.

If I have been informed correctly

If I have been informed correctly you wrote code for a text based MUD, EVE Online is certainly more complicated than a text based game. I mean you as a programmer and CCPs programmers are night and day. It would be like taking a kid who plays paintball and having him tell "war stories" to an actual soldier fresh from 3 tours in Iraq or Afghanistan. Its just not the same and down right misleading.

To be fair, while I didn't mention it as much *this time*, I did bring it up when I was running for CSM6.

Having RL experience in programming/design can be very helpful for a CSM rep. It helps you to understand the scope of some changes, and to see why doing something like "fix corp roles" is actually a pretty damn hard problem. It certainly isn't required, though having at least one or two programmers on the CSM helps things, especially when we are talking about the API/CREST.

Part of me is really hoping that you're running for CSM8.

I'm not letting this go off the front page till CCP changes its policy. If this was such a cut and dry issue it wouldn't have required most of CSM and CCP Xhagen coming in here to defend an unethical and unpractical policy.