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Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 09:16:00 -
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So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks. I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad? |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.01.30 09:20:00 -
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Sleipnir is, without a doubt, the best battlecruiser hull in the game. Literally, what do you want to do in it? Cause it can do everything but armor tank. |
Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 09:52:00 -
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solo pvp and small gabg. you got tips/fit |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:05:00 -
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It depends what you're doing.
Brawl/kite/passive/active ? |
Rajere
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:08:00 -
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tip: Join a corp with a clue. consensus is sleipnir is the best battlecruiser hull in eve. |
Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:09:00 -
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one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips? |
Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:15:00 -
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generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:25:00 -
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Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;) |
FerrenoNL
Black Nexus Proj3ct
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:39:00 -
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I used to have this one for ASB fit:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17482182
I love Sleipnirs though dont use them too often. Im not sure how effective this is post-ASB-nerf but I remember it was pretty much maxed out fitting wise. Sleipnir is great for solo work because it has the speed and agility combined with what I think is one of the better shield tanks in the game.
You can still get the most out of it by getting a crystal set, set up a boosting alt & use blue pills. Obviously once you get that booster it is no longer solo...
Gotta keep a bit of range though, fight in falloff where possible. I dont have any other fits handy but like the rest said you can just about do anything with the hull. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
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Posted - 2013.01.30 11:15:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks.
Could you please elaborate on this? How was that conclussion reached? Because I bought one just to try, and with tears of joy in my eyes I stopped whatever I was training, and finished Command Ships V and Trajectory Analysis V so I could forever live in Autocannon Sleipnir paradise.
It tanks like a beast, it has amazing agility, it reaches more than 50Km with its SHORT range weapon system and Barrage, and loaded with Hail and within 20Km, armor tanks literally melt in its presence.
Doomhammar wrote:I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?
Tip: don't listen to those corpmates. The Sleipnir is fearsome. It's wonderful. |
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Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.01.30 11:44:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips?
Sleipnir will take a tier 3 BC when setup properly. It can't out-sniper one, but it will straight up smash one in seconds within point range. Here's a popular setup, if a little cookie cutter:
[Sleipnir, Dual XL-ASB]
Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M [Empty High slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
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Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.01.30 11:51:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;)
"BC Hull" |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2013.01.30 12:13:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips? .... I'm pretty sure you're trolling now.
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Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 12:39:00 -
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dual asb? isnt faction shield bboster with capacitor booster instead? |
FerrenoNL
Black Nexus Proj3ct
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Posted - 2013.01.30 12:42:00 -
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The beauty of the ASB's is that you can take on a wider variety of targets, ships that would otherwise neut the crap out of you are now possible to kill and you still come out unscratched. |
Danny John-Peter
New Eden Renegades Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2013.01.30 13:19:00 -
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If you have a Tengu booster a faction booster + CB is pretty doable, and your corp is bad, and they should feel bad, the Sleipnir is the most potent BC hull out there, massive DPS, massive tank, good range and speed and a favourable slot layout.
[Sleipnir, Sleipnir] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Dread Guristas Warp Scrambler 10MN Microwarpdrive II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
This is pretty standard for a Sleipnir, you can go three gyros but 2x TE lets you kite around a bit and split gangs up while still applying damage.
Med Neut for dealing with tackle, faction scram for the extra range and because its fairly cheap, you can obviously spend more, this is probably the minimum I would spend on a CS.
You can also do a comedy brawl Claymore;
[Claymore, Danny] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 10MN Microwarpdrive II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Valkyrie II x3 Warrior II x2
But the sleip is more Deepsy. |
Eternal Error
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.30 15:10:00 -
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If this isn't a troll, then you should never listen to the person that told you this again. Additionally, they should be kicked from corp/alliance and strongly encouraged to biomass. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.30 16:41:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks. I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?
How.... what...
Whaa?
The sleipnir is by FAR the best BC hull in the game.. It pretty much violates anything in a brawl. |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.30 17:01:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor
What have you been drinking? |
Sala Kyss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.30 17:21:00 -
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The sleipnir is a point blank to mid range brawler. It can move amazingly fast, pumps out around 650-700 DPS, and has a tank that would make every other BC jealous
Auto's on it with ASB's and you can wreck pretty much everything. Obviously you can't out-snipe them, but put your sleip at point blank range on any of the t3 bc hulls and they're ******. Their tank vs sleip's tank, and their dps vs sleip's dps, the sleip will win every time
ASB's are amazing with the sleip's bonus, use them. |
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Harnath Boloskarl
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.01.30 17:54:00 -
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The sleipnir is a godly ship. I use them for PvE and PvP and I would say it is honestly my favorite ship i can fly. Good damage, excellent active tank, decent mobility. Drop a couple TEs in the lows, and 425 ACs with barrage can hit out to the edge of lock range. Load hail or faction high-damage, and a dual ASB fit can go toe-to-toe with most subcaps. |
Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.30 22:14:00 -
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Okay. good advises, i've came up with nice fit compose of 2 ASB . is that the preferable choice for brawl sleipnir? - also ...i did see a major difference in DPS, about 200 loss. still worth it? |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.01.30 23:21:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:Okay. good advises, i've came up with nice fit compose of 2 ASB . is that the preferable choice for brawl sleipnir? - also ...i did see a major difference in DPS, about 200 loss. still worth it?
200 DPS is significant. But you will be alive much longer, meaning more damage done. DPS only matters in breaking tanks, which isn't all that common in the buffer era... you just need to do enough damage to wipe out their buffer. |
Fasturian Icildentirf
T.N.T ORE Industry The Irukandji
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Posted - 2013.01.30 23:25:00 -
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I haven't tried one in PvP, but in PvE, it was awesome against angels.
In PvE you can even mount a festival launcher for throwing snowballs and fireworks at NPC's and fleet members while still keeping max autocannons. Q: What does IT humor have in common with a classical star schema?A: They are both highly denormalized.-á |
Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.31 05:49:00 -
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How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly? |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
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Posted - 2013.01.31 08:53:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly?
Depends on your skills, the rest of your fit including rigs, etc.
if you are in 1vs1 I would describe is as follows: the other guy will have time to shave, watch a few shows, get bored, reflect on his past life, decide he wastes way too much time playing games, propose to a girl, get married, have a couple of children, give them a nice upbringing and a solid start in life, and one day, before his elder son tells your opponent that he's going to be a grandfather, he'll casually say:
"Oh, and that Sleipnir you've been fighting finally got into armor, dad, finish it off".
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Annunaki soldier
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
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Posted - 2013.01.31 09:25:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote:Doomhammar wrote:How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly? Depends on your skills, the rest of your fit including rigs, etc. if you are in 1vs1 I would describe is as follows: the other guy will have time to shave, watch a few shows, get bored, reflect on his past life, decide he wastes way too much time playing games, propose to a girl, get married, have a couple of children, give them a nice upbringing and a solid start in life, and one day, before his elder son tells your opponent that he's going to be a grandfather, he'll casually say: " Oh, and that Sleipnir you've been fighting finally got into armor, dad, finish it off".
hahahaha
i had something like this on my mind to write . Sadly 1vs1 is not that often to find. Its one of the best ships on game with great agility and gtfo options. As the best .. hmm i personally concider the second best bc at the game . Ride hard, live with passion-á |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
525
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:43:00 -
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FerrenoNL wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17482182
Yep this one is fantastic.
If you know you're going to engage only 1 guy or in gang with at least one logi then the single xl asb is cool enough (bait)
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
525
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:46:00 -
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Doomhammar wrote:How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly?
Pre nerf OH could get about 6K spike active tank (means before you die you ship could tank for about 130K taken real dmg)
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Doomhammar
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:09:00 -
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So, its settled then. Sleipnir is awesome. |
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