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Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 09:16:00 - [1] - Quote So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks. I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 312	Posted - 2013.01.30 09:20:00 - [2] - Quote Sleipnir is, without a doubt, the best battlecruiser hull in the game. Literally, what do you want to do in it? Cause it can do everything but armor tank.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 09:52:00 - [3] - Quote solo pvp and small gabg. you got tips/fit
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 312	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:05:00 - [4] - Quote It depends what you're doing. Brawl/kite/passive/active ?
Rajere Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:08:00 - [5] - Quote tip: Join a corp with a clue. consensus is sleipnir is the best battlecruiser hull in eve.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:09:00 - [6] - Quote one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips?
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:15:00 - [7] - Quote generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor
Caitlyn Tufy Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 154	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:25:00 - [8] - Quote Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;)
FerrenoNL Black Nexus Proj3ct 0	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:39:00 - [9] - Quote I used to have this one for ASB fit: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17482182 I love Sleipnirs though dont use them too often. Im not sure how effective this is post-ASB-nerf but I remember it was pretty much maxed out fitting wise. Sleipnir is great for solo work because it has the speed and agility combined with what I think is one of the better shield tanks in the game. You can still get the most out of it by getting a crystal set, set up a boosting alt & use blue pills. Obviously once you get that booster it is no longer solo... Gotta keep a bit of range though, fight in falloff where possible. I dont have any other fits handy but like the rest said you can just about do anything with the hull.
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 192	Posted - 2013.01.30 11:15:00 - [10] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks. Could you please elaborate on this? How was that conclussion reached? Because I bought one just to try, and with tears of joy in my eyes I stopped whatever I was training, and finished Command Ships V and Trajectory Analysis V so I could forever live in Autocannon Sleipnir paradise. It tanks like a beast, it has amazing agility, it reaches more than 50Km with its SHORT range weapon system and Barrage, and loaded with Hail and within 20Km, armor tanks literally melt in its presence. Doomhammar wrote: I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad? Tip: don't listen to those corpmates. The Sleipnir is fearsome. It's wonderful.
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 313	Posted - 2013.01.30 11:44:00 - [11] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips? Sleipnir will take a tier 3 BC when setup properly. It can't out-sniper one, but it will straight up smash one in seconds within point range. Here's a popular setup, if a little cookie cutter: [Sleipnir, Dual XL-ASB] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M [Empty High slot] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 313	Posted - 2013.01.30 11:51:00 - [12] - Quote Caitlyn Tufy wrote: Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;) "BC Hull"
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service 98	Posted - 2013.01.30 12:13:00 - [13] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips? .... I'm pretty sure you're trolling now.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 12:39:00 - [14] - Quote dual asb? isnt faction shield bboster with capacitor booster instead?
FerrenoNL Black Nexus Proj3ct 0	Posted - 2013.01.30 12:42:00 - [15] - Quote The beauty of the ASB's is that you can take on a wider variety of targets, ships that would otherwise neut the crap out of you are now possible to kill and you still come out unscratched.
Danny John-Peter New Eden Renegades Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 185	Posted - 2013.01.30 13:19:00 - [16] - Quote If you have a Tengu booster a faction booster + CB is pretty doable, and your corp is bad, and they should feel bad, the Sleipnir is the most potent BC hull out there, massive DPS, massive tank, good range and speed and a favourable slot layout. [Sleipnir, Sleipnir] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Dread Guristas Warp Scrambler 10MN Microwarpdrive II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II This is pretty standard for a Sleipnir, you can go three gyros but 2x TE lets you kite around a bit and split gangs up while still applying damage. Med Neut for dealing with tackle, faction scram for the extra range and because its fairly cheap, you can obviously spend more, this is probably the minimum I would spend on a CS. You can also do a comedy brawl Claymore; [Claymore, Danny] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 10MN Microwarpdrive II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Valkyrie II x3 Warrior II x2 But the sleip is more Deepsy.
Eternal Error Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 345	Posted - 2013.01.30 15:10:00 - [17] - Quote If this isn't a troll, then you should never listen to the person that told you this again. Additionally, they should be kicked from corp/alliance and strongly encouraged to biomass.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 517	Posted - 2013.01.30 16:41:00 - [18] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks. I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad? How.... what... Whaa? The sleipnir is by FAR the best BC hull in the game.. It pretty much violates anything in a brawl.
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 283	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:01:00 - [19] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor What have you been drinking?
Sala Kyss Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:21:00 - [20] - Quote The sleipnir is a point blank to mid range brawler. It can move amazingly fast, pumps out around 650-700 DPS, and has a tank that would make every other BC jealous Auto's on it with ASB's and you can wreck pretty much everything. Obviously you can't out-snipe them, but put your sleip at point blank range on any of the t3 bc hulls and they're ******. Their tank vs sleip's tank, and their dps vs sleip's dps, the sleip will win every time ASB's are amazing with the sleip's bonus, use them.
Harnath Boloskarl Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire 14	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:54:00 - [21] - Quote The sleipnir is a godly ship. I use them for PvE and PvP and I would say it is honestly my favorite ship i can fly. Good damage, excellent active tank, decent mobility. Drop a couple TEs in the lows, and 425 ACs with barrage can hit out to the edge of lock range. Load hail or faction high-damage, and a dual ASB fit can go toe-to-toe with most subcaps.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:14:00 - [22] - Quote Okay. good advises, i've came up with nice fit compose of 2 ASB . is that the preferable choice for brawl sleipnir? - also ...i did see a major difference in DPS, about 200 loss. still worth it?
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 313	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:21:00 - [23] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: Okay. good advises, i've came up with nice fit compose of 2 ASB . is that the preferable choice for brawl sleipnir? - also ...i did see a major difference in DPS, about 200 loss. still worth it? 200 DPS is significant. But you will be alive much longer, meaning more damage done. DPS only matters in breaking tanks, which isn't all that common in the buffer era... you just need to do enough damage to wipe out their buffer.
Fasturian Icildentirf T.N.T ORE Industry The Irukandji 1	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:25:00 - [24] - Quote I haven't tried one in PvP, but in PvE, it was awesome against angels. In PvE you can even mount a festival launcher for throwing snowballs and fireworks at NPC's and fleet members while still keeping max autocannons. Q: What does IT humor have in common with a classical star schema?A: They are both highly denormalized.-á
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.31 05:49:00 - [25] - Quote How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly?
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 193	Posted - 2013.01.31 08:53:00 - [26] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly? Depends on your skills, the rest of your fit including rigs, etc. if you are in 1vs1 I would describe is as follows: the other guy will have time to shave, watch a few shows, get bored, reflect on his past life, decide he wastes way too much time playing games, propose to a girl, get married, have a couple of children, give them a nice upbringing and a solid start in life, and one day, before his elder son tells your opponent that he's going to be a grandfather, he'll casually say: "Oh, and that Sleipnir you've been fighting finally got into armor, dad, finish it off".
Annunaki soldier Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio 62	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:25:00 - [27] - Quote Darius Brinn wrote: Doomhammar wrote: How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly? Depends on your skills, the rest of your fit including rigs, etc. if you are in 1vs1 I would describe is as follows: the other guy will have time to shave, watch a few shows, get bored, reflect on his past life, decide he wastes way too much time playing games, propose to a girl, get married, have a couple of children, give them a nice upbringing and a solid start in life, and one day, before his elder son tells your opponent that he's going to be a grandfather, he'll casually say: "Oh, and that Sleipnir you've been fighting finally got into armor, dad, finish it off". hahahaha i had something like this on my mind to write . Sadly 1vs1 is not that often to find. Its one of the best ships on game with great agility and gtfo options. As the best .. hmm i personally concider the second best bc at the game . Ride hard, live with passion-á
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 525	Posted - 2013.01.31 11:43:00 - [28] - Quote FerrenoNL wrote: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17482182 Yep this one is fantastic. If you know you're going to engage only 1 guy or in gang with at least one logi then the single xl asb is cool enough (bait) Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 525	Posted - 2013.01.31 11:46:00 - [29] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: How much tank dual-ASB give you exacly? Pre nerf OH could get about 6K spike active tank (means before you die you ship could tank for about 130K taken real dmg) Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:09:00 - [30] - Quote So, its settled then. Sleipnir is awesome.
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 283	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:22:00 - [31] - Quote Them are good at being bad.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.02.01 07:10:00 - [32] - Quote well. i've really optimized my fit for brawler-sleipnir. question is - hwo siginifecent is the tracking between 220 to 425. i mean what i can hit with 220 that i can't hit with 425? or i simply put more DPS since i can track faster or ..what?
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 196	Posted - 2013.02.01 11:34:00 - [33] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: well. i've really optimized my fit for brawler-sleipnir. question is - hwo siginifecent is the tracking between 220 to 425. i mean what i can hit with 220 that i can't hit with 425? or i simply put more DPS since i can track faster or ..what? Honestly, bigger guns means more range, which capitalizes on the Sleip's own set of bonus. I think most people prioritizes the tank they feel comfortable with, then fit the biggest rack of guns they can fit. I like my 425mm's, so I fit the guns first and make do with a single X-ASB fit + resistances. The good thing about the Sleipnir is that while the price tag might make it seem like a nice candidate for primary calling, in any Cruiser/BC gang it will be probably left for dessert and other ships will be killed before it. Things with comparable DPS but squishier :P
Mister Tuggles Prime Numbers 23	Posted - 2013.02.01 17:20:00 - [34] - Quote I have been a bigger fan of active tanking the Sleip. No booster of course: XL-Shield boost + HG Crystals = 1786 dps tank. Add blue pill for even more all 5's 220's + barrage = 766dps. No implants, no drones, and cold all 5's
Glathull Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death 85	Posted - 2013.02.01 20:42:00 - [35] - Quote You know, I don't think I've ever seen this many people agree on anything in these forums. Just curious, if the Sleipnir is as awesome as all of you are saying, why doesn't everyone a) fly them constantly, and b) ***** about how overpowered they are? To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie
Rajere Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 11	Posted - 2013.02.02 05:26:00 - [36] - Quote what do you mean, people don't fly them constantly? 7th most popular ship for us. People don't complain about them being overpowered because they aren't. They are both expensive and skill intensive to fly well. cost wise the hulls are comparable to T3 cruisers, which are much easier to train for and thus more popular. Sleipnirs are the most popular command ship, which is itself not a very popular ship class, for the above reasons.
goldiiee Tax and War Haven 176	Posted - 2013.02.02 06:16:00 - [37] - Quote I usually fly with a couple friends, they tend to bring the point and I provide links to augment that, Tanks acording to HQF; 1738 DPS Damage output by HQF; 938 DPS Speed W/MWD: 1,222 m/s 9 minutes till the cap is dry. [Sleipnir, Mercun] 7x 425mm AutoCannon II (Hail M) Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II 2x Large Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 150) Gistum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Republic Fleet 10MN Microwarpdrive Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Damage Control II 3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator II Cant imagine fighting in anything else, :) well almost anything else. Oh almost forgot ASB tip always overheat, tank with heat is 2,537 DPS Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..)
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 198	Posted - 2013.02.02 09:41:00 - [38] - Quote Glathull wrote: You know, I don't think I've ever seen this many people agree on anything in these forums. Just curious, if the Sleipnir is as awesome as all of you are saying, why doesn't everyone a) fly them constantly, and b) ***** about how overpowered they are? People DO fly it constantly...compared to other Command Ships. You see them all the time. However, you have to take two things into consideration: 1) It's not a newbie ship, as it is pretty skill intensive. 2) Price tag of hull and popular modules similar to fitted Faction Battleship. Not cheap. 3) It's just a super-Cyclone with a damage and a falloff bonus (25% and 50%). Most of the time, a Cyclone will be enough and losing one doesn't matter nearly as much.
goldiiee Tax and War Haven 176	Posted - 2013.02.02 10:22:00 - [39] - Quote Darius Brinn wrote: Glathull wrote: You know, I don't think I've ever seen this many people agree on anything in these forums. Just curious, if the Sleipnir is as awesome as all of you are saying, why doesn't everyone a) fly them constantly, and b) ***** about how overpowered they are? People DO fly it constantly...compared to other Command Ships. You see them all the time. However, you have to take two things into consideration: 1) It's not a newbie ship, as it is pretty skill intensive. 2) Price tag of hull and popular modules similar to fitted Faction Battleship. Not cheap. 3) It's just a super-Cyclone with a damage and a falloff bonus (25% and 50%). Most of the time, a Cyclone will be enough and losing one doesn't matter nearly as much. For example a new toon to sitting in it, 200 days give or take to max command ships, medium guns shield skills and evasive manuvering will probally be another 90 to 100 days. makes for a rather focus training plan. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..)
Freyja Asynjur Folkvangr Unknown Phenomena 15	Posted - 2013.02.02 11:24:00 - [40] - Quote Glathull wrote: You know, I don't think I've ever seen this many people agree on anything in these forums. Just curious, if the Sleipnir is as awesome as all of you are saying, why doesn't everyone a) fly them constantly, and b) *** about how overpowered they are? Sleipnir is not OP, it's a CS, and CS are at the very top of the food chain in the subcap land (ie, above BS) A Sleipnir can hold the field against any other subcap in a 1vs1 brawl fight, bar maybe a Vindicator. And it can** hold the field against a dozen ships. Its awesomeness is legendary It's a very demanding ship: lots of skills just to fly it, and imho, to reduce cap leakage (cap being its main weakness) , and it really only shine with a crystal implant set and booster. To recap, great niche ship with a very high price tag. Talking about CS, Absolution and Claymore are equal to the Sleipnir performance-wise, but with traits that make them less suitable in some situations (Abso can't switch damage type, but is way cheaper to bring to shiny levels; Claymore has less DPS (raw and range), but has even more tank than the Sleipnir, and/or fits a web) https://twitter.com/folkvangrcorp GÇö Freyja's space log.
Leetha Layne 70	Posted - 2013.02.03 00:49:00 - [41] - Quote Sure hope they don't do to it what they are planning with the Cyclone!
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 322	Posted - 2013.02.03 01:57:00 - [42] - Quote Leetha Layne wrote: Sure hope they don't do to it what they are planning with the Cyclone! I'm not sure i'd really care. As long as the give it a double 5% damage bonus and missile velocity bonus (and more CPU to reflect it being a shield tanking missile boat) we can basically use it like we use it now, except we wont loose dps to tracking at close range. In regards to a few questions: 1) If its awesome, why does no one fly it? a) They do fly it, but it's not a nano-ship, nor is it viable to use a 100mn AB on (agility sucks or speed sucks or DPS suck or tank sucks and sig is huge) so it is for all intents and purposes a brawler. Brawling is situational and means you are committed to a fight. If a blob lands on the other side of the gate, then you are committed to being killed. 2) Faction versus dual-ASB. a) Sorry, dual ASB always wins. You have to run a cap booster constantly to sustain a LSB tank, and with an X-LSB you can't run it permanently... so like it or not, you are still burst tanking, and even with the best module management in the world, you are still cap reliant. With my skills on the fit i posted + Blue pill + LG Crystals (which are cheap atm), i tank 1850 DPS with 1 ASB overheated (which is normal) and 2000dps with the LSE II overheated. If i turn on the other booster thats 4000 DPS burst tank. i couold drop a few hundred DPS tank and get another gyrostab on it, but it's preference. I've 1v1'd a vindicator with it and tanked him til i ran out of cap boosters. Remote rep was the only thing stopping him dieing, which was quickly realized and allowed me to de-agress. Sleipnir costs less than a pirate cruiser and has such amazing fitting that you don't NEED to faction fit it... so realistically it's a T2/Meta4 fit ship that can tank and kill faction fit pirate ships through a combination of strengths without any massive weakness (admittedly with no best-in-class traits either). If minmatar are going to be the 'jack of all trades' then this ship is the template on how to achieve it. Rifter/Stabber are NOT.
Alexander Sinclair Space Exploitation Inc Get Off My Lawn 0	Posted - 2013.02.03 02:17:00 - [43] - Quote Leetha Layne wrote: Sure hope they don't do to it what they are planning with the Cyclone! Tech 2 Ships (I just checked the Caldari CS's in comparison to the Ferox) don't always have same tech 1 bonus as there tech 1 ship.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.02.03 14:11:00 - [44] - Quote TY for everyone contributing to the discussion, that gave me 2 kills as of this moment with a sleipnir, hopefully that result will improve dramatically. one thing i'm not yet closed on is this - 425's or 220? warp distruptor or warp scram? DPS certainly rocks in 425 and so is range. and i'm incline to remain in that due to the sleipnir setup(bought it with tech2 ancilliary router, waste to let that go).
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 322	Posted - 2013.02.03 14:41:00 - [45] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: TY for everyone contributing to the discussion, that gave me 2 kills as of this moment with a sleipnir, hopefully that result will improve dramatically. one thing i'm not yet closed on is this - 425's or 220? warp distruptor or warp scram? DPS certainly rocks in 425 and so is range. and i'm incline to remain in that due to the sleipnir setup(bought it with tech2 ancilliary router, waste to let that go). Without a web you really should think about a scram. a 24km point isn't going to help if something is faster than you - it's best to have the option of shutting of an MWD if you get close. 24km points are for people who kite generally, a scram will server you better imo.
Doomhammar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement 10	Posted - 2013.02.03 15:52:00 - [46] - Quote But can i stick with 425, or its preferable to downgrade to 220?
Maeltstome Mentally Assured Destruction 322	Posted - 2013.02.03 16:28:00 - [47] - Quote Doomhammar wrote: But can i stick with 425, or its preferable to downgrade to 220? There is no right answer. Although generally i think i'd prefer 220's and a medium neut to get pesky AB frigates if i get caught off-gate/station. That doesnt mean i wouldnt take 425's and a neut if i could manage it.
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 198	Posted - 2013.02.04 09:08:00 - [48] - Quote Maeltstome wrote: Doomhammar wrote: But can i stick with 425, or its preferable to downgrade to 220? There is no right answer. Although generally i think i'd prefer 220's and a medium neut to get pesky AB frigates if i get caught off-gate/station. That doesnt mean i wouldnt take 425's and a neut if i could manage it. I fit 425mm's and a medium neut. But, as I said, I go for single X-ASB and double invul + anti-kinetic rig. I don't fly this thing solo, so I don't "overbrick" it and use its reputation as a sort of tank, too Never gets primaried.
Xpaulusx Naari LLC 188	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:50:00 - [49] - Quote Sala Kyss wrote: The sleipnir is a point blank to mid range brawler. It can move amazingly fast, pumps out around 650-700 DPS, and has a tank that would make every other BC jealous Auto's on it with ASB's and you can wreck pretty much everything. Obviously you can't out-snipe them, but put your sleip at point blank range on any of the t3 bc hulls and they're ******. Their tank vs sleip's tank, and their dps vs sleip's dps, the sleip will win every time ASB's are amazing with the sleip's bonus, use them. ^^ This, and why am i not surprised this assinine statement that sleips are bad came from a GA member, seriously leave your corp/alliance and join people that can be of help rather than a hinderance. -áVote for Malcanis for CSM8

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