Last time here was some big rumor about 2500+ people during fleet batte, people were exited about this, personaly i dont like large fights hoverwer i think they are cool and people love them, would be cool if battle like in Asakai become normal in EvE or at last happens more often like 2-3 time per month not like frist time since years, and only because of titan pilot mistake.

This whole battle was ignited by mistake, and happens only because of goon mistake, in normal cases large battles with 1000+ involed happens few time per year only in case when some alliance decide to atack other.

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

Get yourself a titan and you, too, can initiate battles that involve over 2800 people at one time.

Let us know when you're there.

I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.

I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles)

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

Oh yeah...we needed another 'Nerf the big blue blob" thread. I wont even bother to count what number this might be.

Have you ever FC'd a fleet? 10 man gang? 20 man gang? 50? 150? 255?

Ok, try managing 3-4 subcapital fleets and their movements, a capital fleet, the active/ongoing battle and ushering reinforcements to the fight all at the same time?

Who are these people? Who can manage such things? Have you ever heard of FC burnout? 0.0 has A LOT of things wrong with it including but not limited to sovereignty mechanics but you are never gonna have commonplace megabrawls because human beings are not equipped to deal with that much ****

If someone makes a 50 million isk donation to my corp I'll declare war on the OP and he can make threads about how Wardecs are unfair and need to be removed from the game instead of ones about whatever the crap he thinks is going on in nullsec.

So you blame me for this situation, and suggest that im responsible for this, fosus on theme not at me, or stop positng, trols and people like you post bullshit and next they whine because somone personal atack

No, the point is this: If this is something you want to see happen then work towards making it happen instead of making posts on the forum.

This is EVE. In EVE all it takes is some motivation to make things happen.

If you're upset about really large Alliances and don't think they are doing enough then, hey, instead of writing a forum post moaning why not start doing something about it in game?

You can initiate stuff in the game just like anyone else can. But, instead of doing that, you come to the forums and complain.

I'd rather see players in EVE actively pursue their dreams instead of forum warrioring.

No, the point is this: If this is something you want to see happen then work towards making it happen instead of making posts on the forum.

This is EVE. In EVE all it takes is some motivation to make things happen.

If you're upset about really large Alliances and don't think they are doing enough then, hey, instead of writing a forum post moaning why not start doing something about it in game?

You can initiate stuff in the game just like anyone else can. But, instead of doing that, you come to the forums and complain.

I'd rather see players in EVE actively pursue their dreams instead of forum warrioring.

In fact more pvp is done in whs than in null.
Think about that.

We're in your nullsec, controlling your game.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dggMmf2G15Y/UB853kxsYtI/AAAAAAAACTg/ZZjBBqtZ09U/s1600/Pop-vs-Kills-Jan-2012.jpg

percentage of kills per year

nullsec: 52.38%
wormholes: 5.88%

think about that

Not everyone plays EVE for fun. Even if you were a member of a major alliance and did play for fun, you have a responsibility to those of your comrades who are rock-hard for things like territory control and ever-expanding wallets. That's part of sharing the sandbox.

ok my mistake then.
Of course that proves that null is just fine on the pvp front then

Haven't read the whole thread, but this line caught my eye. WTF, why would someone continute playing if it wasn't fun for them? Responsibilities? In a video game? Wow, to get to that stage where playing is more of a chore than it is fun, means you need to get your head sorted and your priorities straight.

Not talking about YOU specifically, but people who don't find it 'fun' to play and carry on as if they head a gun to their head forcing them to do something they don't enjoy.

Unfortunatly this is what Eve has become and I would say for the large majority of players in particular null secers. Its not uncommon for a Null Sec alliance to require their players to set alarm clocks, skip work to run ops and require people to play marathon waiting sessions as nothing happens. People try to blame the Sov mechanics, and perhaps they are to blame for much of this type of gameplay, but I think these days its far more the leadership of the circle jerk alliances who refuse to fight each other that's the problem. Way too much diplomacy, negotiation and bloc building going on and that has nothing to do with mechanics and everything to do with people effectively allowing their gameplay to be controlled by a bunch of douchbags like Mittani.. I mean christ the CEO of the largest alliance in the game doesn't even actually play Eve and hasn't for a few years now. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with a leader of an alliance who has no interest in the game other than to manipulate politics from outside of the game.

Its gotten really stupid these days. Its why Null Sec is effectively dying in terms of anyone actually giving a crap about it. Most of these alliance blocs will eventually fall apart not because of wars but out of sheer boredom.

no opertunities for oppertunistic corporation like yours lol? you do not focus on any particular element of the game, but rather exploit every opertunity and seek out various experiance of Eve's gameplay. Be prepared to do it all?

Unfortunatly this is what Eve has become and I would say for the large majority of players in particular null secers. Its not uncommon for a Null Sec alliance to require their players to set alarm clocks, skip work to run ops and require people to play marathon waiting sessions as nothing happens. People try to blame the Sov mechanics, and perhaps they are to blame for much of this type of gameplay, but I think these days its far more the leadership of the circle jerk alliances who refuse to fight each other that's the problem. Way too much diplomacy, negotiation and bloc building going on and that has nothing to do with mechanics and everything to do with people effectively allowing their gameplay to be controlled by a bunch of douchbags like Mittani.. I mean christ the CEO of the largest alliance in the game doesn't even actually play Eve and hasn't for a few years now. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with a leader of an alliance who has no interest in the game other than to manipulate politics from outside of the game.

2. It has nothing to do with the leaders, it has everything to do with the fact that 1+1>1.

Nullsec has a lot of PvP. The basic mechanics of PVP in Null are fun (unlimited escalation, no game mechanical punishment for aggression, bubbles, etc.), and nobody who lives in null is really complaining about them (well, there are the AFK cloak whines, but ).

The 2 biggest problems with Null are Sov Mechanics and Carrying Capacity (i.e. livability), along with the broader (i.e. not strictly limited to null) issue of Alliance income sourcing. Fixing the first two would almost certainly increase the absolute number of ships destroyed in Null (better Sov Mechanics = More fights over Sov instead of "Blue or Fight to the Death," better carrying capacity = more targets ratters actually living in the space they own).

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

tl;dr we like shooting things that move and shoot back

Of course it has to do with the leaders. Why haven't all of the leaders backstabbed each other and put personal glory ahead of some silly alliance? Why hasn't every blob of blues torn itself apart over greed/petty grudges/etc? Where is the ambition to LEAD and not simply follow someone else and keep the safe easy profits coming in? This is EVE, not Polite and Profitable Commerce Online.

I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.

Don't get mad that we play on a higher level than you do.

blue everyone any whine about no fights?

blue everyone any whine about no fights?

This post confirms that the huge fight in lowsec didn't happen. It's all a Glenn Beck conspiracy.

With neverending capabilities, people still laugh at you, if they see your killmail in local.
I don't feel affected by large Alliances in any kind in highsec.

Agree with you, i dont care how big alliances affect hi sek, also i dont care about thier kill mails or thier or mine alts kill boards... I mention only that null space if filed with powerblocks who siting years long is same area and do nothing months long, exept battles initiated by mistakes or when somone force them to fight like enemy or much wose thier directors...