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Lacero Callrisian
Minmatar
Solar Storm
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:27:00 -
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You could put a sell order up at the same price?
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Snekadejeh
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Posted - 2006.09.17 09:50:00 -
[122]
 Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Originally by: MeatHelmetz
I have procurement to lvl 3 shouldn't I be able to set a buy order for something 5 jumps away because I can't.
Nope.
Procurement only lets you set a remote purchase order if the item is being sold at that station 5 jumps away.
Like this:
-If you dock at a station, you can set a purchase order, in that station, of ANY item, and set its range to ANY range. No skill required.
-But if you want to set a purchase order for <item> in a station 5 jumps away, the <item> gotta be sold there.
Read the second post of this thread, where it is discussed in detail. And be sure to yell again if it is not clear! 
You can place a remote buy order within the same solar system in any station, if you are undocked. I have no idea how you can place one in another system when it is not sold there. That's quite strange. Actually it should be possible somehow.
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Kua
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.01.16 11:35:00 -
[123]
Fabtabulous guide and a brilliant read. Perfect. Oh but perhaps you could have delved into the 'higher tier' market skills: Tycoon and Wholesaling. But perhaps these came in with Revelations, I have no idea.
Trading really fascinates me I must say. And all those shiny skills make me want to make a new account especially for a trade. You can make a pretty decent trader off the bat though. Perhaps someone who has the main on their account (or one of their accounts) could explain how useful it's been.
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Kua
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.01.16 11:36:00 -
[124]
Fabtabulous guide and a brilliant read. Perfect. Oh but perhaps you could have delved into the 'higher tier' market skills: Tycoon and Wholesaling. But perhaps these came in with Revelations, I have no idea.
Trading really fascinates me I must say. And all those shiny skills make me want to make a new account especially for a trading. You can make a pretty decent trader off the bat though. Perhaps someone who has the main on their account (or one of their accounts) could explain how useful it's been.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2007.01.16 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Herko Kerghans
...You can only set a purchase order for items actually on sale. I mean, if you dock your ship and open the market tab, you can set a purchase order for ANYTHING that exists on the market, even if said item is not currently being sold anywhere in your region. But if you want to put a purchase order of that item in a station 10 jumps away, you will need Procurement lvl3 AND THE ITEM HAS TO BE BEING SOLD AT SAID STATION...
Originally by: Snekadejeh
You can place a remote buy order within the same solar system in any station, if you are undocked. I have no idea how you can place one in another system when it is not sold there. That's quite strange. Actually it should be possible somehow.
Fortunately this has changed (since Revelations? I don't know...). The Procurement skill now has the flexibility everyone expects and it is no more necessary that the item has to be sold at the remote station where you'd like to setup the remote buy order.
How to do this?
1) Open the market browser and select the item you want to setup a remote buy order for. For example simply via search function in the market browser. It doesnt' matter if this item has any sell or buy order in the current region at all.
2) Click on the "Place buy order" button on the right side of the market browser. If you are docked the buy order dialogue shows the current station in the upper area of the window by default.
3) Click on that station name in the buy order window. A small context menue opens with an option "Select station" (or "Change station", I'm not sure). Now you can enter the name of a solar system and a browser window opens with all stations of that system. Select your requested station. Finished.
Of course you need the required level of the Procurement skill for the remote buy order to be accepted (for example level 3 for a station 10 jumps away from your current location).
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.01.16 16:17:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Fortunately this has changed (since Revelations? I don't know...).
It's in the Revelations patch notes.
I had to double check this myself when I first noticed it as I thought it might have been a stealth fix.
Talk about a quiet announcement...
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Safaomae
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.01.16 20:46:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
/votes Sticky.
/votes to approve this vote
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XminaX
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Posted - 2007.01.17 10:16:00 -
[128]
Edited by: XminaX on 17/01/2007 10:15:53
About the Marketing skill...
Does it allow instant sells or only sell orders? Can I choose which station I want to sell to? And, does Procurement allow instant buys?
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Coreena Silver
Caldari
Floor 42 Enterprises
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.17 13:26:00 -
[129]
Originally by: XminaX
Edited by: XminaX on 17/01/2007 10:15:53
About the Marketing skill...
Does it allow instant sells or only sell orders? Can I choose which station I want to sell to? And, does Procurement allow instant buys?
It means if you have stuff in station A.. and you currently are in system/station B which is 3 jumps away then you can stay in that system, open your "assets" and sell the item in station A. (when you have level 2 in marketing)
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Arianna Ivanovna
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Posted - 2007.02.09 00:59:00 -
[130]
Originally by: StarLite
Edited by: StarLite on 08/12/2005 13:05:07
Edited by: StarLite on 08/12/2005 13:04:06
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
To the best of my knowledge, the things you cannot buy/sell throught the market (thus are "unreachable" by trading skills, of course) are:
-"Rare" named modules (gistii, dark blood...)
You actually CAN.
I once bought a succubus via escrow and I right-clicked on the suc and then clicked "Buy this item" and there were actually a few for sale on the market in that system.
Bear in mind that you must already HAVE one of the item you want to buy to be able to use the "buy this item" feature and that hardly anyone would ever use it, but it IS possible :)
To extend this even further, once you have an item you can save it in your market quickbar and as long as it remains there, access the hidden market.
1) Acquire something somewhat rare
2) Check on the but this item to see if there a hidden market
3) Save in market quicckbar
4) Sell item for crazy profit
5) Go to market quick bar and still have access to this market
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2007.02.15 21:14:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Arianna Ivanovna
Originally by: StarLite
Edited by: StarLite on 08/12/2005 13:05:07
Edited by: StarLite on 08/12/2005 13:04:06
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
To the best of my knowledge, the things you cannot buy/sell throught the market (thus are "unreachable" by trading skills, of course) are:
-"Rare" named modules (gistii, dark blood...)
You actually CAN.
I once bought a succubus via escrow and I right-clicked on the suc and then clicked "Buy this item" and there were actually a few for sale on the market in that system.
Bear in mind that you must already HAVE one of the item you want to buy to be able to use the "buy this item" feature and that hardly anyone would ever use it, but it IS possible :)
To extend this even further, once you have an item you can save it in your market quickbar and as long as it remains there, access the hidden market.
1) Acquire something somewhat rare
2) Check on the but this item to see if there a hidden market
3) Save in market quicckbar
4) Sell item for crazy profit
5) Go to market quick bar and still have access to this market
What? How does this work exactly? For example: I have a Dark Blood module in my (personal) hangar; if I right-click on the item the context menu doesn't offer me a "buy this type" or "sell this item" menu item (in contrast to "normal" T1, T2 or named items). So where is this "hidden market"?
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Iam Spartacus
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.15 21:49:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Arianna Ivanovna
To extend this even further, once you have an item you can save it in your market quickbar and as long as it remains there, access the hidden market.
1) Acquire something somewhat rare
2) Check on the but this item to see if there a hidden market
3) Save in market quicckbar
4) Sell item for crazy profit
5) Go to market quick bar and still have access to this market
What? How does this work exactly? For example: I have a Dark Blood module in my (personal) hangar; if I right-click on the item the context menu doesn't offer me a "buy this type" or "sell this item" menu item (in contrast to "normal" T1, T2 or named items). So where is this "hidden market"?
It doesn't work any more. This "hidden market" feature was removed in the Revelations patch (build 27912) back in November.
Originally by: Revelations Patch 27912
Items not in a market group can no longer be bought or sold on the market.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2007.02.15 22:26:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Iam Spartacus
It doesn't work any more. This "hidden market" feature was removed in the Revelations patch (build 27912) back in November.
Ahaaa... I suspected something like that. Thanks for the info!
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SheriffFruitfly
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Posted - 2007.08.26 02:44:00 -
[134]
Awesome post/thread!
I'm just starting out - been playing the agent/mission game, but recently became hypnotized by the market and its potential, and simultaneously realized that I had gotten high trade skills from character setup!
I don't totally understand the OP, but I get enough of it to eff myself up a few times en route to proper understanding. :)
More abstractly than simply EVE, it might be helpful to people to find links about basic finance topics, like arbitrage, etc.
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HuGo87
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.04 04:28:00 -
[135]
/me tries to sticky this thread, and remembers he's not a mod
great thrad :)
i'd already figured out most of the skills, but it's still an awsome guide :)
btw, i still don't know how standings reduce broker fees' cost. read two opinions, but could not confirm any
so.. anyone got a cool formula which i can actualy try out ? :D
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Lord Gragert
Minmatar
WolfKnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:42:00 -
[136]
I vote sticky. Good info.
Meow - Dan |
Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:51:00 -
[137]
Originally by: HuGo87
so.. anyone got a cool formula which i can actualy try out ? :D
Here's a proposed formula.
Bear in mind that Broker Relations is applied after this calculation as Shadarle says in his post.
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Chelone
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Posted - 2007.09.05 21:41:00 -
[138]
This topic line makes me shudder.
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Kawoni Star
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:56:00 -
[139]
Great discussion - but I wish I'd found it before I spent 3.15 mil on Marketing and trained it to level 2 only to find it doesn't do what I expected :(
At least I know where to come to confirm what a trading skill does from now on.
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Axel Amarron
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Posted - 2007.11.10 09:09:00 -
[140]
OK, im confused about Marketing skill and Procurement skill. This is how i understand them and i think im wrong.
Marketing skill (level 2):
I am docked at station where i have lots of tritanium. Buying offers for tritanium are very low and i dont want to sell my tritanium at that station.
I open market window and browse tritanium buying offers. I can see good offer 5 jumps away and i can sell my tritanium without flying the 5 jumps.
Right or wrong?
Procurement skill (level 2):
Same thing than marketing, only this time im buying, not selling. If i buy something that is 5 jumps away i get it instantly at my current location.
Right or wrong?
I have been reading all posts regarding this and i cant figure it out. Im from Finland so my english is not at level 5, maybe level 3. =)
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Karanth
Gallente
Crazy 88's
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:31:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Axel Amarron
OK, im confused about Marketing skill and Procurement skill. This is how i understand them and i think im wrong.
Marketing skill (level 2):
I am docked at station where i have lots of tritanium. Buying offers for tritanium are very low and i dont want to sell my tritanium at that station.
I open market window and browse tritanium buying offers. I can see good offer 5 jumps away and i can sell my tritanium without flying the 5 jumps.
Right or wrong?
Procurement skill (level 2):
Same thing than marketing, only this time im buying, not selling. If i buy something that is 5 jumps away i get it instantly at my current location.
Right or wrong?
I have been reading all posts regarding this and i cant figure it out. Im from Finland so my english is not at level 5, maybe level 3. =)
Ok, first one, yes and maybe. It depends if the buy order covers the station you have the Trit at. If so, it will be alright. Otherwise, you will either need to make a sell order, or move the Trit. Either way, you don't have to move, unless the Trit needs moving to fill an order with a narrow range.
Second one is wrong. Trade skills do not teleport goods, just let you buy and sell things at ranges you normally can't without flying all over CCPs creation and back to do it.
All that's left...
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer.
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