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kessah
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:27:00 -
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Once u hit a certain lvl of skill points it really comes down to whos got the most level 5's not whos more skillful Especially with Battleships
Axel has maxed out gallente skills he's goin to win becus he can do more damage hows that make u more skillful? Ive flown with the "best" personally ive made it a point to only join corps with a reputation and from what ive learned its really all down to skillpoints and who screams on TS loudest. Tho i dont take kindly to people that care more about winning than having fun not to names *cough*
TWD i remember him carving a rep with the dual mwd bug.
Frigs are quite a skill tho. So imho the most impressed ive been with someone flying a frig is probably.... yep cant think of anybody....
Tho the drunken one has pulled some stunts i thought funny with his claw tho thats about fitting to kill a certain ship so...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Once u hit a certain lvl of skill points it really comes down to whos got the most level 5's not whos more skillful Especially with Battleships
Axel has maxed out gallente skills he's goin to win becus he can do more damage hows that make u more skillful? Ive flown with the "best" personally ive made it a point to only join corps with a reputation and from what ive learned its really all down to skillpoints and who screams on TS loudest. Tho i dont take kindly to people that care more about winning than having fun not to names *cough*
TWD i remember him carving a rep with the dual mwd bug.
Frigs are quite a skill tho. So imho the most impressed ive been with someone flying a frig is probably.... yep cant think of anybody....
Tho the drunken one has pulled some stunts i thought funny with his claw tho thats about fitting to kill a certain ship so...
What about being able to use the scanner to find a good range to warp onto a target and therefore nullifying his "better" skills by landing right in your optimal. the seconds lost changing ammo for the other guy might be fatal.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zarks on 14/07/2005 16:41:55 Fist + Jexter because "wtf, how did they do that?". TWD (when the dual ab maller worked) - used that ship almost perfectly and very aggressive. Tank CEO because he represents the bad ass eve pirate to me. And last but not least my own corporation members because we are the best at what we do.
Probably some pirates in 0.0 that is worth mentioning also such as tundragon and teddybears, cant really understand all the people in here voting for all fleet combat pvpers though. Been there done that is all I¦m gonna say.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Once u hit a certain lvl of skill points it really comes down to whos got the most level 5's not whos more skillful Especially with Battleships
I disagree completely. Anyone who has fought against Devvon Maelstorm will attest to the fact that having a certain lvl of skill points doesn't automatically make you best.
Or perhaps anyone whoever flew with Anede. I remember he used to pull topgun manouvers for fun (you know the one where he gets frigates to chase after him then hits the brakes, watches them shoot by and pwns them with a couple of missiles up the arse).
Funny you should mention TWD actually because it's not the dual mwd bug that makes him a great pvp'er. It's the fact that he can sniff a ship out faster than anyone I know (and I'm pretty damn fast).
I could go on and on but some carebear will complain that it's turning into a BoB post again. Not our fault our hardcore pvp'ers enjoy talking about pvp.
dbp
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zarks cant really understand all the people in here voting for all fleet combat pvpers though. Been there done that is all I¦m gonna say.
agreed.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.07.14 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 14/07/2005 16:54:12
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: Zarks cant really understand all the people in here voting for all fleet combat pvpers though. Been there done that is all I¦m gonna say.
agreed.
awww drunken...as siim isnt here to be ur bum buddy, ill add u to my top pvper list ok?
we dont need siim tbh, we can be together now he is out of the picture..
♥ <<< (thats supposed to be a heart, but it looks ****.)
if i dont get a reply within 5mins ur a rubbish forum *****.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:14:00 -
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pfft..and i thought u had some whoring talent..i was wrong
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:15:00 -
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TWD Nilkarus Frst Ifni DigitalCommunist
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Madam Rage
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:31:00 -
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Not sure how you measure "best PvP'er" but Cyrus the Virus gets my vote for annoyance, sitting 100+ km off a gate in an instalock temptest... I know quite a few people he has seriously ****** off!
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:36:00 -
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<--bestest.
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PSYCHO NEWBKILLER
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:55:00 -
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<<<<< by far. I will owner u with my kestral of death.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:12:00 -
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nuuu :*(
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:31:00 -
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With the exception of the Cat, I have to say, there is no desernable top 10. There is however, a desnable percentage. about 5% of eve pvpers are way above average, about 10% are above average, 70 are average, and the nothers are a little bit below average. To be honest, it really does come down to group dicipline. If your willing to follow to the leeter, or if you arent.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar With the exception of the Cat, I have to say, there is no desernable top 10. There is however, a desnable percentage. about 5% of eve pvpers are way above average, about 10% are above average, 70 are average, and the nothers are a little bit below average. To be honest, it really does come down to group dicipline. If your willing to follow to the leeter, or if you arent.
True enough but I basically see these threads as a covert way to tell people which corps you might see gate camping and which corps you see gate camping and you might as well Dock,SS or log,cuz your gonna die. It keeps the noobs informed. Which by looking at the original posters corp history they are either an Alt or a complete n00b soooooooo.....either way they get informed.
Now these threads aren't so bad if people act mature and list people they personally feel are GOOD pvpers. No one has been able to make one of these threads work cuz simply put pvp has sooooo many different aspects that you can excel in one thing but be looked upon as the galaxies largest n00b and carebear in another aspect of pvp.
Example: In a raven I probably am in the top 10 of raven pilots (well at least when I have the isk), but put me in a Scorp and I am an utter n00b.
What I am trying to say is that the criteria for what makes a good pvper must be established befor one can make a Top 10 pvper thread.
Imo what makes a good pvper/FC is simple
-sp -set up creativity -Patience -knowledge of ones ship and its limits -knowledge of tactics and general military Philosophy -knows the importance of communication -has specialised in a said ship or race -knows how to calculate the movements of his enemy so they do what HE wants them to -Prefers to work in teams as opposed to working solo,tho can do solo if needed. -knows how to use his scanner and scan probes -And finally knows how to take a seeming tactical disadvantage and turn it into and overwhelming advantage.
If this sounds more like being a fc then being a pvper then to a point you are right. But in these times to be an effective pvper one needs to work in teams so taking that into account you must think instead about what you do first but what your enemy will do and how you can prod and poke them into doing something stupid. PVP is a staring contest and he who blinks first loses. If your fighting a well organised group you MUST know that when you make the first mistake no matter how small it will cost you your ship.
What made m0o so great was that in its hay day it encompassed alot of these things as did SPVD. And now some of the best FC's and squadron commanders these days are Old School m0o and those that they taught have gone onto be in top positions in many corps and alliances through out Eve.
So in my personal book I rank m0o and those who stood either next to them or successfully went toe to toe with them as being "l33t" because in my mind a true "1337" pvper makes a team and then makes the team excel and the people how should be listed here go off of my criteria,but then again this is just my opinion.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:48:00 -
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Just as there is no best ship or absolute best battle config for a specific ship, there is no best pvp'er. That half of this forum get their knickers in a twist and fall over from exitement when they get to name corpmembers mean very little.
Let's see we have maybe 50 highly subjective criteria to measure by, that in themself are unmeasurable because the situations are never the same... Good luck.
TWD atleast used to be pretty good in the oversized maller, both at killing, tackling and finding hostiles. But he was nerfed over half a year ago now
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 14/07/2005 23:05:52
Originally by: Fred0 TWD atleast used to be pretty good in the oversized maller, both at killing, tackling and finding hostiles. But he was nerfed over half a year ago now
Idd... its better that people underestimate me than overestimate me 0o
(ps stop whring our kb)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:04:00 -
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Being underestimated is a hoot.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:22:00 -
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many people overestimate me because of reputation/forums and i always end up dead cus of it ------------------
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kessah
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: kessah Once u hit a certain lvl of skill points it really comes down to whos got the most level 5's not whos more skillful Especially with Battleships
Axel has maxed out gallente skills he's goin to win becus he can do more damage hows that make u more skillful? Ive flown with the "best" personally ive made it a point to only join corps with a reputation and from what ive learned its really all down to skillpoints and who screams on TS loudest. Tho i dont take kindly to people that care more about winning than having fun not to names *cough*
TWD i remember him carving a rep with the dual mwd bug.
Frigs are quite a skill tho. So imho the most impressed ive been with someone flying a frig is probably.... yep cant think of anybody....
Tho the drunken one has pulled some stunts i thought funny with his claw tho thats about fitting to kill a certain ship so...
What about being able to use the scanner to find a good range to warp onto a target and therefore nullifying his "better" skills by landing right in your optimal. the seconds lost changing ammo for the other guy might be fatal.
Agreed theres a slight nack to the scanner but its a given, theres no way ur good enuf to know what range a person is using it tho, not unless there afk.
ammo change etc is slight if ur fighting someone with maxed dmg skills and i mean maxed like axel lvl 5 heavy drones etc then it makes barly any difference. His drones alone could take down my geddon.
Dont get me wrong its not a completly skiless game, but its all about team work and skillpoints - solo killers are imho up agaisnt the elements the most, i enjoy solo work myself got pretty good at it- and i never once used a lame Alt spy to check certain systems,
made my heart jump everytime i jumped in2 PF-346 blind going only by the map - been killed a number of times doin that.
Im personally a massive fan of frigates i was never a good bs pilot, then again i dont have the right lvl 5's to be as "good" as some of the players mentioned here.
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Petite Pierre
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Posted - 2005.07.15 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN many people overestimate me because of reputation/forums and i always end up dead cus of it
Proof there is a god :)
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.07.15 01:28:00 -
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Lucian it wasn't 4 seconds, it was 8 seconds.
Leave me alone :( ------
Thread Locked cause I feel like it
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.07.15 01:36:00 -
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Darko1107
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Zenst
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Posted - 2005.07.15 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Petite Pierre
Originally by: ParMizaN many people overestimate me because of reputation/forums and i always end up dead cus of it
Proof there is a god :)
ROFLMAO and yet very very true, same happens to those that smacktalk in local. Karma prevails eventualy.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.07.15 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN many people overestimate me because of reputation/forums and i always end up dead cus of it
True, many people do not know who I am but if they did they would worship me as their leader! ----------------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.07.15 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Example: In a raven I probably am in the top 10 of raven pilots (well at least when I have the isk), but put me in a Scorp and I am an utter n00b.
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Crewmen Redshirt
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Posted - 2005.07.15 03:38:00 -
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Almost all but Zeal Dragon run unless odds are in there favor Whens is this self ball licking going to end?
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riker
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Posted - 2005.07.15 07:45:00 -
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i think lucan was right this thread was started by an alt to see who Thinks he has the Biggest ******* ... i dont think u can even put ppl in a top ten.. 1 .. put a uber raven pilot vs a apoc geddon mega.. and raven might win.. Put that same raven pilot against a uber scorp pilot and humm iam sry to say scorp wins.( yes i said scorp wins.. i have seen it many of times.) wht iam trying to say here is that as soon as u know what your enemy is flying /shooting, he is no more uber than a t1 frig. 2. this game is sooo changable that yea u may be uber l33t in your ship, BUt remember that there is ALLWAYS SOMEONE BIGGER FASTER AND STRONGER THAN U .. this is a life lesson that is true. and of course the whole first page is bob.. ** me thinks nemesisa is part of bob. *** learn like you are going to live forever, live like you are going to die tomorrow. Go ahead an hit me, AND my 20 hard hitting pipe carring pep's will hit back. |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.07.15 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN many people overestimate me because of reputation/forums and i always end up dead cus of it
Tis why i enjoy being unknown, rarely get called in fleet and most people ignore you in local
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.15 10:31:00 -
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eyeshadow killed meh prototype vengeance :(
parm wasnt pleased ------------------
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.07.15 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN eyeshadow killed meh prototype vengeance :(
parm wasnt pleased
hehe i still remember that kill. was one of my few kills in a rax and just jumped into my home system to log when there u was at the gate
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