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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:54:00 -
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The Devs swear they play the game, but what kinds of players are they? They're secretive about it... conspiratorially secretive.
My theories on who the devs are in their alteregos:
1. Mining carebears. In some remote station in high-sec empire is a tech 2 large mining barge with 4 Jovian stripminers. 2. Ganksquads. Battleship fleets suddenly appearing near people who complain too much on the forums. 3. Illusive 0.0 Industrialists. Building an Outpost so far out in 0.0 that no player will ever find them.
Any other theories?
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:55:00 -
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Bloody pirates, the lot of 'em..
[Come to Daddy]
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:55:00 -
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4. Party in jove space
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:57:00 -
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ore thieves
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Capt Tryton
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Capt Tryton on 14/07/2005 18:03:59 Figure out how to make NPC's harder to kill while being less profitable, while nerfing missiles, turning battleships into ice cream trucks, providing ganking spots in empire near the marketing centers in an attempt to force me into PVP, while simultaneously destroying the economy, adding ships that will take 6 months to appear because of their incredible cost which will lend itself to making the rich corp. richer so they can take over the universe.
HowĘs that?
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Macel
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:03:00 -
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First question should be DO they play eve 
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 14/07/2005 18:05:05 Considering how the game is built, patched, etc...
I'd say most are PvP'ers.
Pirates, Alliance folk, etc...
Not too many of them must be miners, cause they only throw miners bones once in a while, while they throw PvP'ers T-Bone stakes with all the fixins every patch, etc... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole. |

Tar' Kahn
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:05:00 -
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i doubt they play much, if you do something for eight hours a day, its probably the last thing you want to do when you get home.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Not too many of them must be miners, cause they only throw miners bones once in a while, while they throw PvP'ers T-Bone stakes with all the fixins every patch, etc...
Miners shouldn't worry about bones, they should work to supply us pvpers with fresh victims and ships!
[Come to Daddy]
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:08:00 -
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Quote: Miners shouldn't worry about bones, they should work to supply us pvpers with fresh victims and ships!
Ah yes, the cannon fodder theorem...
Something the DEV's hold near & dear to their hearts... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole. |

Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tar' Kahn i doubt they play much, if you do something for eight hours a day, its probably the last thing you want to do when you get home.
i would quit my job to play this every day "pure liquid sex" ___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |

Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:13:00 -
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Well, it started out fun... take your flames elsewhere folks. 'Serious' conspiracy theorists only please.
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Caltaro
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:31:00 -
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they're gate campers
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Aramova
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:33:00 -
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They Ore Thief and Grief other players in secure space.
Just look at the current system for mining, the crappy can system, the stupid concord protection of thiefs and grifers, and the lack of ideas on the dev's part to fix any of it.
Now you know. -- "Evil will always triumph, because Concord is dumb..." ---Spaceballs Revised |

ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:47:00 -
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I heard somewhere that a lot of them are pirates, but i forget where :S
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:51:00 -
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come on we all know what the devs all really do when they "play" the game they read the forums ofcourse \o/
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:58:00 -
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I think there was a rumor that tomb was a member of CA. And Oveur calls the industrial ppl carebears all the time .... 
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:06:00 -
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Of course they PvP.
PvP is where all the powergaming content is.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Avalon Beholder Of course they PvP.
PvP is where all the powergaming content is.
Honest question - how do you "power game" in eve?
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:12:00 -
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they pvp of course.
you dont think a dev would actually mine or do research missions do you? of course not.
this is why we are still can mineing people.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:14:00 -
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Id be a pirate too if i could haxxor my own sec status  ------------------
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Samson
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:19:00 -
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They are blowing people up on a regular basis. Looking at the games progression from beta up to the present I have absolutely no doubt about it. Add that to the fact that they created a pvp centric game in the first place, and the answer to that question is obvious.
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Daiken
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Avalon Beholder Of course they PvP.
PvP is where all the powergaming content is.
Honest question - how do you "power game" in eve?
You buy a second Account for PvE... Mining etc.. just so get money... put the money of that Acc on your PvP Account... get him +4 full implant set...
You join a elite PvP Corp... don't wanna call names... *eyes role* lets say... C. Apocalypse.. you play in that corp with your PvP Account about 6 hours every day... and make fun of people that try to make money in ANY way with their PvP Charakter so you log out at the same time then all other people.. to directly log back on with your PvE Account to farm money for the rest of the day. ---------------------
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.07.14 19:30:00 -
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let me put it this way the corps that do the best in Eve pvp and economically have at least 1 to 2 Aurora or content Devs in them. The thing that sucks mondo donkey dong is that if a Dev or Aurora member is found out by another ig player he gets banned and kicked from being a Dev. Plus Devs have to be on a minimum of 8 hours a day.
Undisputed Lord Of The Forums!!! Stavros for Emperor. |

Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard let me put it this way the corps that do the best in Eve pvp and economically have at least 1 to 2 Aurora or content Devs in them. The thing that sucks mondo donkey dong is that if a Dev or Aurora member is found out by another ig player he gets banned and kicked from being a Dev. Plus Devs have to be on a minimum of 8 hours a day.
Having a dev in corp would definately be interesting.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Danae
Having a dev in corp would definately be interesting.
Yeah it would be pretty funny. Player X: Hey guys i just finished building the dreadnought. Player Y: WTF? i didnt know we had the BPO! let alone the components Player X: Errm yeah.......... I bought them off people myself and stuck em in the cooker. Player Y: Doesnt it take 2 weeks to build a dread? Player X: Oops.. errh guess it might be a bug.. ill go send in a bugreport now.
Or CEO looking through the players hangars CEO: Eidolon, polaris frig, GM cheat modules ... where the F**k did he get that? Player X: Oh @#$@#k that was supposed to go to my other acct
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:32:00 -
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Quote: Having a dev in corp would definately be interesting.
Yeah, but would you even know it?
They most certainly keep their identity secret... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole. |

Juniper
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:44:00 -
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I'd lay good money that a dev has already posted to this thread.
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Morat Jernau
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:44:00 -
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If the devs do play the game...
they dont fly Caldari they dont use missiles they dont fly frigates they dont like Mega Pulses they dont use EW they like safe mining
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Icarus Starkiller
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Macel First question should be DO they play eve 
Sometimes I really, really wonder if they do...
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Kait
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:46:00 -
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Very much doubt dev's "cheat" on their player accounts. Sometimes devs such as TomB comes online with his "dev" account and fools around though.
Also, devs dont get fired if they're found out, thats only polaris vols, never heard about a dev getting found out but i'm guessing if they did, they'd just delete the char. |

Daiken
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Danae
Originally by: Lucian Alucard let me put it this way the corps that do the best in Eve pvp and economically have at least 1 to 2 Aurora or content Devs in them. The thing that sucks mondo donkey dong is that if a Dev or Aurora member is found out by another ig player he gets banned and kicked from being a Dev. Plus Devs have to be on a minimum of 8 hours a day.
Having a dev in corp would definately be interesting.
I beg to differ. It's not that this job is like being an Ultima Online, Gamemaster on a freeshard..and you have to have a minimum time "online".... it's their job, they do it fulltime... when they go home they can play eve of course.. they just have to keep those 2 things separated. ---------------------
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infused
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aramova They Ore Thief and Grief other players in secure space.
Just look at the current system for mining, the crappy can system, the stupid concord protection of thiefs and grifers, and the lack of ideas on the dev's part to fix any of it.
Now you know.
Because they don't want to fix it. Jettson your ore? You throw it away, it's anyones ore now.
[World Domination] [Patch 3366-3538: Mirror Here] |

Orb Lati
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:53:00 -
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I think the real question is. If they play...Do they Cheat 
afterall i find it a bit difficult to believe that Ovuer has to get out the old mining APOC and mine soe ore for cash when he gets a bit skint. More likley he will just "gift" himself what ever item he needs 
now the question becomes if a dev is caught cheating in the game can we partition a ban on his/her account 
"We Worship Strength, because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |

Daiken
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Orb Lati I think the real question is. If they play...Do they Cheat 
afterall i find it a bit difficult to believe that Ovuer has to get out the old mining APOC and mine soe ore for cash when he gets a bit skint. More likley he will just "gift" himself what ever item he needs 
now the question becomes if a dev is caught cheating in the game can we partition a ban on his/her account 
Lets put it this way... would you risc losing your Job for a PC Game? ---------------------
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/07/2005 20:58:28 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/07/2005 20:56:43 Devs probably play different types of play just like everyone in the game does.
I do expect there'll be more in PVP and alliances then there are empire missions runners or miners. If you create an intricate piece of gamery I'd expect you to want to experience it to the full extent of what you intended it to be. And, as valid as the mission and mining professions are, that full extent is not found in safe and simple empire gameplay (not saying it all is like that in empire, cause it's not)
But, all in all, I think you'd be surprised what the CCP devs like and learn from that. So far, even the changes I've been most sceptical about eventually have turned out alot better then I'd have said upfront, indicating more comprehension of their own game then you would sometimes say from the looks of some things.
Anyway, don't expect any of them to be major corp ceo's tho. They would never have the time for that kind of play. they'd probably be on an hour or what more or less daily and keep themselves a bit on the background.
Oh, and the coomunity did discover one of them at a time (NOT in my corp btw). I think he's simply changed character appearance and wiped his corp history now, having gone off to a corp on the other side of Eve probably... _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passŚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Senator Sibawl
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Posted - 2005.07.14 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Danae The Devs swear they play the game, but what kinds of players are they? They're secretive about it... conspiratorially secretive.
My theories on who the devs are in their alteregos:
1. Mining carebears. In some remote station in high-sec empire is a tech 2 large mining barge with 4 Jovian stripminers. 2. Ganksquads. Battleship fleets suddenly appearing near people who complain too much on the forums. 3. Illusive 0.0 Industrialists. Building an Outpost so far out in 0.0 that no player will ever find them.
Any other theories?
#2...yaaaa, thats CCP devs, gankers extreme...
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.14 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Daiken
Lets put it this way... would you risc losing your Job for a PC Game?
*cough* GM during the GNW *cough* for those that require a reminder *cough* mines *cough*
(goes to get some water dammn must be something itching my throat)
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.07.14 21:26:00 -
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One of my friends was a BH when he wasnt on the test server he was on TQ killing pirates in his raven, but the strangest thing was is that he never joined a corp, im not sure if this is a policy or what but he was happy in his noob corp.
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Styrmir
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Posted - 2005.07.14 22:36:00 -
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I was once thought to be a CCP staff member by my old corp! I am from Iceland and was always defending CCP so they assumed 
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Genevieve Blue
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:00:00 -
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When the Devs log in, they like to look around and pretend they don't see any of the blindingly obvious bugs that we've been putting up with for so long. 
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:34:00 -
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I would think that they do play, as well as GM's, and that if they did become known we would probably be extremely supprised who they were or what corp they were in etc....
Do they cheat?
Yes in 1 way at least, they know whats comming, with the best will in the world, if you know whats about to happen it would influence youre actions. For example when the price of bs bpo's was dropped, would a dev have bought 1 at the old price the day b4 the patch?
Do they cheat to the extreme of spawning themselves ships, mods etc? I doubt it, if you could give urself everything and kill every1, what would be the point in playing?
If i were a dev id keep it quiet as well, could you ever enjoy the game as a "normal player" if every1 in youre corp knew you were a dev? Imagene the constant questions, requests and favours you would be asked for............
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Uther Agnoius
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Uther Agnoius on 15/07/2005 00:00:18 .
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Uther Agnoius
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:00:00 -
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Everyone in BoB is a bloody dev but me :(.
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