This problem is compounded by the vermin I described in my (now slightly prophetic) previous piece. The plex farmers and plex leechers benefit greatly from a higher tier, however that benefit is diminished if they actually pay into the system to maintain it. Instead they rely on a few workhorse groups within the militia to fight over, take, and pump LP into systems so that they can stay fat and happy. The people who benefit the most are those who provide the least for others. This causes a natural fracture point as those who fight for control are driven towards anger and apathy. In psychology they call this The Diffusion of Responsibility: in a system where anyone can contribute towards success, but no one is accounted for it, very few will step up and bear the weight of the many.

A few individuals have tried rallying the troops to hold T3 but it seems no one really cares. I hope we do not slip into T1 because it will be a major uphill climb and have adverse affects on recruitment drives and attracting new blood.

I'm not here to post anything constructive.
I just wanna talk about Deens new hair do.

Uggh. Looks like a lesbian Princess Nexxalla wannabe.

Am I the only Caldari not banned from the forums?

....

When Caldari were at T1, I didn't see it as a huge deal, and I still don't see it as one if Gallente slip to T1. Personally, I'm quite happy with T1 for a while, it will let the millions of LP I have stored rise in value. T1 still makes ISK, it's not like the penalty we used to have with ISK price increases.

Even if we slip into T1, getting back to T2 is pretty easy when people care to push for it again. The Caldari have an easier time getting large alliance recruits since Caldari is such a popular mission running race (meaning their rebound from T1 isn't something that would happen as easily on the Gallente side), but even at T1 the ISK still flows, you can make enough to pvp.

Personally - I pushed for occupancy, we got all the systems, I was very happy to stop that effort as soon as the 24 hour mark passed.

The "cashout" was the worst. I got extremely tired of donating 500+k to upgrade 5 systems so the farmers could cash out...

Uggh. Looks like a lesbian Princess Nexxalla wannabe.

Markets became too depressed and stockpiles of items grew too large, so farmers are merely rotating fields as is proper if ones aim is to maintain a high steady output.

So basically CCP did a good job in rebalancing FW by creating a pendulum which always swings back and forth.

No, a pendulum system is terrible because it means that no side can really win, so there's literally no reason whatsoever for anyone but the farmers to want one side to get a higher tier level than the other.

I was thinking it was a bit Nexx like too - I was wondering if the poverty of Tier2 means Gallente toons are getting crappier hair cuts to reflect their dive into poverty.

Now I know why all the overpriced crap I put on the market in Eha hasn't sold. Too busy spending all your isk on hair cuts.


X Gal - Plz dude - It's been a few months now and It's time to put ur goggles back on.

Am I the only Caldari not banned from the forums?

On hitting T3 it seems many just went into mission carebearing mode or had plexing fatigue from the effort it took to flip 25+ systems during that time we had the upper hand in the WZ.

No, a pendulum system is terrible because it means that no side can really win, so there's literally no reason whatsoever for anyone but the farmers to want one side to get a higher tier level than the other.

Don't focus too much on higher tiers and "winning". Gallente "won" a few weeks ago and we felt the 'loss' with no WTs around for a few weeks. It got quite boring.

Which is precisely my point. The Gallente militia's "reward" (and I cannot express just how large the airquote hand guesture I'm making at the present time actually is with any words that exist in a human dictionary) for capturing literally every Caldari system in FW was...

Wait for it.

Wait for it.

Are you still waiting for it?

"Yeah, now you get to lose!"

**** that.

Which is precisely my point. The Gallente militia's "reward" (and I cannot express just how large the airquote hand guesture I'm making at the present time actually is with any words that exist in a human dictionary) for capturing literally every Caldari system in FW was...

Wait for it.

Wait for it.

Are you still waiting for it?

"Yeah, now you get to lose!"

**** that.

1) Be a better pew pewer

For the low low price of 5 billion isk (or alternatively, get aerillis to post a video of him doing the gangnam style dance) I will teach you how to fly hookbills properly and not lose them to merlins

How about I give each of you 1B isk to just stop flying hookbills alltogether?

Now that Ev0ke evened the odds, the same Gallente who gloated about blobbing their way to free LP and 'total dominance'(LOL!) are faced with the harsh reality that they aren't getting a free ride anymore and will most likely hit T1. I realise this must be very upsetting for them.

This made me giggle. Despite the "even" odds the squids have killed 1000 less ships then the frogs. Wow, you guys are doing a great job of kicking frogs out of their systems.....

Gallente have lost nearly 50 systems in less than a month and are about to hit T1.

But keep grasping for those straws!

LoL this is a squattingtopoodog alt isn't it? Hahahahaha

Of course it's a Squatdog alt. It has precisely the same writing style (right down to the same consistent grammatical errors), the same petulant, infantile behaviour and it's in the State Protectorate NPC corp because his personality is just too damn terrible to co-exist with a corporation.

Hell, it even has the same ugly goggles.

Oh look, it's a Squatdog alt.

http://fondl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16257005

Hey now, you guys got enough people together to undock. Apathy hasn't killed you yet.

Oh look, it's the same two terrible Gallente failbads attempting to make up for their lack of ability in PVP by endlessly spamming the forum with gibberish.

Don't you have a highsec station to camp with neutral Guardian alts?

Oh look, it's the same two terrible Gallente failbads attempting to make up for their lack of ability in PVP by endlessly spamming the forum with gibberish.

Don't you have a highsec station to camp with neutral Guardian alts?

Oh man, I wish I had one neutral Guardian alt, let alone two. I think you're projecting brosef.

Check my killstats bro. More kills and less losses this month than you - I guess that makes you the failbad.

Post with your main. Oh wait.....

You honestly can say nothing that will upset me, because at the end of the day, this is just a game to me. While you sit in your mother's basement thinking up your next troll, fapping to your next delusion, or standing over your Damar shrine, I'll be making the 5 minute walk to the beach down the road. I hear vitamin D is good for dementia, I am not sure how the weather is their in the UK, but if you ever make it to Maui Ill buy you a round.

The simple fact is, if you read the first and last part of the decree to take all systems it was because farmers were out of control, everyone was in an uproar, and the sides were unbalanced. (First part) then it described how they were going to show CCP, by taking all systems. (Middle part) then it describes the end goal, for CCP to fix FW and make it not PVE orientated. (Last part)

You are only focusing on the middle part and using it to feed your pride and asinine way of thinking, Get. Over. Yourself. The goal was to help faction warfare by showing CCP the imbalances that you guys screamed about the whole time.

Now that you have taken systems back you want to gloat? You just proved the system that you were screaming about being unfair, is actually extremely fair and has balanced itself out, so all that complaining you were doing over the last couple months were for nothing. So his whole time you've been whining about a fair system AND now the system is balancing itself out.

Seriously take a few moments to actually pause up and think long and hard about your behavior and how it represents the squids and you yourself. You are the top of the evolutionary pile, freaking act like it.

You got a hilariously bad record of 60 kills and 16 losses last month, which is roughly half of what I managed on my alt.

Now go make another tear-drenched thread crying about how bad you are at PVP.



LOL@the tears and denial...

Other people have lives outside Eve and don't use it as an excuse for being terrible at PVP.

You got a hilariously bad record of 60 kills and 16 losses last month, which is roughly half of what I managed on my alt.

Now go make another tear-drenched thread crying about how bad you are at PVP.

And yet I'm clearly having more fun in EVE than you are, since you're spending an inordinately higher amount of your time shitposting on the forums. Given how much you shitpost, for that matter, I'm guessing you're worried about your own talent in PvP, because 60 kills to 13 losses isn't bad considering that I only started PvPing halfway through the month. Also, your alt managed to lose a lot more money than me for the same number of losses.

You must have some serious insecurities. Given what the rest of the Caldari militia say about you behind your back, I don't blame you.

I contributed to this thread with a clear, concise post about the current state of Faction Warfare, before you (and your tag-team partner) derailed it by endlessly spamming the thread with troll posts.

It sounds like someone needs a time-out.

Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased. (Reasoning)
With that in mind, we decided to put everyone out of their misery and accelerate the ongoing process of collapse that Faction Warfare is experiencing. Over the next months we intend to take all caldari systems, followed by helping minmatar to take all amarr systems. (Method) Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.

And when there are no more Caldari or Amarr systems left, maybe a new FW can be built, one more in tone with the rest of Eve, without emphasis on PVE and instanced PVP.
(Goal)

before you (and your tag-team partner) derailed it by endlessly spamming the thread with troll posts.

A thread staring with LoL/trolling is not a clear, concise, post. You are the troll, who's main is forum banned is proof of that. Every post you make is spattered with trash talk, so expect to receive it in return. Most threads are actually civil before you and your kind come in and muck up the place.

As I said before, and you ignored blantently, the intent of taking all systems was to force CCP to fix a system that at the time all militias were unhappy with. It says it at the beginning and the end of post, you have even recently quoted it just bolding the middle part so you can troll.

Ill make it easy for you.


This thread wasn't even focused to the Caldari, but to CCP and FW, it wasn't till later on in the thread after trashing talking on both sides did the direct assault trolling start.

It's also amusing how these two Gallente accounts continually spam threads within seconds of eachother.

Don't you know that account-sharing is a bannable offence?

It's amusing how upset and angry Gallente suddenly are over soveriegnty mechanics now that they're on the losing side and not riding the CCP gravy train.

It's also amusing how these two Gallente accounts continually spam threads within seconds of eachother.

Don't you know that account-sharing is a bannable offence?

You seem to have missed the relevant facts I originally posted:

"The reason that Gallente were able to achieve T3/T4 so easily was that the CCP Ninja Patch gifted them 70+ systems, which barely needed to be upgraded to maintain T3. Meanwhile, Caldari were left with a feeble 20 or so systems that needed to be heavily upgraded just to hold T2. Once Caldari hit T1, many of the (already massively outnumbered) PVP alliances simply left militia altogether.

Now that Ev0ke evened the odds, the same Gallente who gloated about blobbing their way to free LP and 'total dominance'(LOL!) are faced with the harsh reality that they aren't getting a free ride anymore and will most likely hit T1. I realise this must be very upsetting for them. "

How about I give each of you 1B isk to just stop flying hookbills alltogether?

http://fondl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16257005

Hey now, you guys got enough people together to undock. Apathy hasn't killed you yet.

Will never be apathetic towards pew pew. Just button spinning :)

Just wish more Cal Mil would be apathetic towards button spinning and do more fleet comps like you guys do. Respect for that. I think you're the only organization capable of bringing something out that's beyond frigs/dessies. That's sad given the large number of entities that exist in Cal Mil such as Templis, Liandri, and others.

Being over there, perhaps you can shed some light as to why Cal Mil has such a huge fixation on the buttong spinning aspect of it and doesn't undock in more disciplined fleet comps which would wake the frogs from their slumber?

Inb4 'because of blobing'

Will never be apathetic towards pew pew. Just button spinning :)

Just wish more Cal Mil would be apathetic towards button spinning and do more fleet comps like you guys do. Respect for that. I think you're the only organization capable of bringing something out that's beyond frigs/dessies. That's sad given the large number of entities that exist in Cal Mil such as Templis, Liandri, and others.

Being over there, perhaps you can shed some light as to why Cal Mil has such a huge fixation on the buttong spinning aspect of it and doesn't undock in more disciplined fleet comps which would wake the frogs from their slumber?

Inb4 'because of blobing'

At this rate there'll be no Caldari militia members left who can actually post on the forums.

It's time for new blood to take over.

In the end, it's nice to see new blood entering on all sides. It seems every militia now has over 4K players in it and that's hopefully alot more pew and player driven content.

I wish most of calmil would run larger fleets. Took a trip down memory lane the other week speaking to an old friend about how regular BC fleets used to go up in militia channel, forming up in enaluri, going down pipe to heyd etc... and they were surprisingly successful despite comprising of 50% general militia randomly plucked from the channel. Ya know? Back in't day like?

Federation have had bigger numbers in their corps/alliances and more unity between each other for a long time now so naturally you have more success and experience with the bigger fleets and ships than most of calmil.
Also lots of internal wardecs over the past year or so has caused lots of distrust and rifts between corps/alliances
If we advertised a BC fleet in general militia now most guys would probably ask one of the following questions:

- Whats a nano-drake?

OR

- How much LP does I getzz for thatz?!?!?!

So, many many reasons I suppose why FW/calmil is in this current state but I personally am finding it a bit stale flying round in frigates looking for solo/small gang stuff. Sometimes a man needs to play with a biiig torpedo.

It's amusing how upset and angry Gallente suddenly are over soveriegnty mechanics now that they're on the losing side and not riding the CCP gravy train.

. But there was a certain crazed LOLRPer who logged on after DT and was more interested in the plexing than the fights.

LOL@all the lies and excuses on this thread...

The reason that Gallente were able to achieve T3/T4 so easily was that the CCP Ninja Patch gifted them 70+ systems, which barely needed to be upgraded to maintain T3. Meanwhile, Caldari were left with a feeble 20 or so systems that needed to be heavily upgraded just to hold T2. Once Caldari hit T1, many of the (already massively outnumbered) PVP alliances simply left militia altogether.

Now that Ev0ke evened the odds, the same Gallente who gloated about blobbing their way to free LP and 'total dominance'(LOL!) are faced with the harsh reality that they aren't getting a free ride anymore and will most likely hit T1. I realise this must be very upsetting for them.

Not very nice to say that about Val Erian.

Woah, woah woah, WOAH. Careful there. Post with a little wit and CCP Chatgris might ban you.

"well you can all leave..troll"

this thread has depressed me.

Im quitting and sending application to Black Rise pirate outfit and shooting everyone

Years ago the Caldari had 100% control of the warzone. This year, The Gallente obtained 100% of the warzone! There were lots of tea and medals, including the high/low fives, shouts of victory, shouts of **** off that's not a Victory. It was a hollow victory, etc etc.

Has anyone got any ideas how this war WILL/COULD END?

Please kep trolling to a minimum here and post serious replies. I don't expect the more mature players (from both sides) to post "well you can all leave..troll"

Otherwise FW just seems to be another isk making scheme with PvP (for some) on the side.........

Has anyone got any ideas how this war WILL/COULD END?

and need more iskies for a carrier.

well...we sorta made it to page 2 without any whining. not the most terrible FW thread ever.

What sort of carrier ?

Not very nice to say that about Val Erian.

The more I see of these FW thread the less I believe my stance that FW should be forced to end. It should be kept as a containtment system to protect the rest of EVE from your supreme failures. All of you that take this seriously.

Why isn't QCATS in caps anymore?

e: nice bangs Deen

All our dreads got Black Legion-ed. We have no capitals now.

Why isn't QCATS in caps anymore?