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steave435
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
29
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Posted - 2011.10.28 22:37:00 -
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Centra Spike wrote:Weaselior wrote:i have, however, torpedoed your argument with nary a peep from you besides "u mad" so i feel quite safe in telling you to get back in your hole unless you're willing to put some actual effort in to dealing with my systematic demolition of your argument My trusted sources tell me otherwise. You said it yourself, logistics is easy. Nothing in this game should be easy. Indeed. Following trough with Weaseliors argument: Logistics is sooo booring. We should just be able to have items magically teleported from anywhere to anywhere else instantly for free. Manufacturing is booring too. Let's have NPCs handle that, add NPC buy orders for ore and sell orders for ships/mods. Mining is booring, so lets skip the ore buy orders actually. Minerals come from nowhere. But making isk is booring. Let's have the ships free. Reinforcing structures is booring. Let's just be able to hit a button to instantly reinforce any structure anywhere from anywhere. Moving around is booring. Let's add the ability to teleport yourself and your ship anywhere instantly at any time. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1329
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Posted - 2011.10.29 00:07:00 -
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posting ******** things on friday afternoon of halloween weekend so I can't mock them all day at work is cheating |

Comboduck
TURN LEFT
18
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Posted - 2011.10.29 16:09:00 -
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Centra Spike wrote:Weaselior wrote:i have, however, torpedoed your argument with nary a peep from you besides "u mad" so i feel quite safe in telling you to get back in your hole unless you're willing to put some actual effort in to dealing with my systematic demolition of your argument My trusted sources tell me otherwise. You said it yourself, logistics is easy. Nothing in this game should be easy.
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Aessaya
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
9
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Posted - 2011.10.30 02:04:00 -
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Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. Ah, you seek meaning?-áThen listen to the music, not the song. |

Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
87
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Posted - 2011.10.30 05:19:00 -
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Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is.
How is jump bridging normal freighters overpowered? Is it because it takes massive effort to get a Titan and then move the freighter into lowsec/0.0 to get to the Titan?
Or because it takes more than:
1) Undock from Jita 4-4 2) Right-click capacitor 3) Jump to cyno on station 4) Dock |

Sparky12
InterSun Freelance Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2011.10.30 13:54:00 -
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I think We need to get laid more often, let the frustration of eve go with a boom like a Glass cannon ship, it only lasts 5 seconds. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.30 15:37:00 -
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Centra Spike wrote:Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. How is jump bridging normal freighters overpowered? Is it because it takes massive effort to get a Titan and then move the freighter into lowsec/0.0 to get to the Titan? Or because it takes more than: 1) Undock from Jita 4-4 2) Right-click capacitor 3) Jump to cyno on station 4) Dock
Give it a rest noob...Every company, corp and Government looks for ways to move goods, or what ever as cheaply, and as safely as possible. The Jump freighter make this possible in the game. It also make it possible for those moving the stuff to do other things like PVP mission run or mine, or what ever they feel like, and have the burden of having to move stuff as slowly as possible, with the most number's of people they need to help them. It has its purpose, and its need. So just stop legitimizing why the ship is here. |

steave435
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
30
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Posted - 2011.10.30 16:38:00 -
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No one's gonna take you seriously with that name, too obvious thrulinn / trullin' / trolling. |

Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
87
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Posted - 2011.10.30 16:54:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:Give it a rest noob...Every company, corp and Government looks for ways to move goods, or what ever as cheaply, and as safely as possible. The Jump freighter make this possible in the game. It also make it possible for those moving the stuff to do other things like PVP mission run or mine, or what ever they feel like, and have the burden of having to move stuff as slowly as possible, with the most number's of people they need to help them. It has its purpose, and its need. So just stop legitimizing why the ship is here.
Man, I don't even know if Weasilor can take this post seriously. |

Shadow Lord77
Shadow Corporation Confederacy
51
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:22:00 -
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If having easier caught Jump Freighters is desired by others. Here is a good fix for them: Make it so they can only jump twice , (or so), per hour. This creates better chances that they'll be found at Jump Gates.
/End |

LtCol RTButts
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:38:00 -
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Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is.
JF are overpowered. don't think it was inteded from CCP that a ship can carrier 150+ Battleships at once. CCP has killed the industrial segments in all null sec regions with only one shiptype, the JF.
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thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:08:00 -
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steave435 wrote:No one's gonna take you seriously with that name, too obvious thrulinn / trullin' / trolling.
This whole thread has been started, and continued by two troll's that thinks it's ok to set this back 1 year, or how ever long its been since this ship came out.
It has a purpose, get over it. You still have yet to make a point why it should not be here. You keep proving why it's here and why it works, and why they made a T2 jump freighter in the first place. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:12:00 -
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LtCol RTButts wrote:Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. JF are overpowered. don't think it was inteded from CCP that a ship can carrier 150+ Battleships at once. CCP has killed the industrial segments in all null sec regions with only one shiptype, the JF.
Don't make in so obvious your trolling..
Try looking up the stats and see just how many battleships this can actually carry. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:32:00 -
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Centra Spike wrote:thrulinn wrote:Give it a rest noob...Every company, corp and Government looks for ways to move goods, or what ever as cheaply, and as safely as possible. The Jump freighter make this possible in the game. It also make it possible for those moving the stuff to do other things like PVP mission run or mine, or what ever they feel like, and have the burden of having to move stuff as slowly as possible, with the most number's of people they need to help them. It has its purpose, and its need. So just stop legitimizing why the ship is here. Man, I don't even know if Weasilor can take this post seriously.
I bet he know's far more about logistic's, moving freight cheaply, and safer than you do.
You keep making it something its not. You keep thinking having more people moving goods should be the main focus of there play time. You keep pointing out WHY it has a purpose.
Great idea lets build this game around moving freight. Let turn this game back a year and pretend this ship never came out. Let's forget about getting in our ships and kill other ship's, or what ever they want to do. Lets move freight.
CCP No we want a freight moving game. We want you to make our nice JF take three or four times longer to move stuff. We never want to have fun. We just want to go system to system moving stuff.
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Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
87
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Posted - 2011.10.31 17:57:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:I bet he know's far more about logistic's, moving freight cheaply, and safer than you do.
You keep making it something its not. You keep thinking having more people moving goods should be the main focus of there play time. You keep pointing out WHY it has a purpose.
Great idea lets build this game around moving freight. Let turn this game back a year and pretend this ship never came out. Let's forget about getting in our ships and kill other ship's, or what ever they want to do. Lets move freight.
CCP No we want a freight moving game. We want you to make our nice JF take three or four times longer to move stuff. We never want to have fun. We just want to go system to system moving stuff.
I have yet to see you make a reply to the several post's he has made about why JF have a valid place in the game. So make a valid reply, not troll comments.
Of course he knows about doing logistics, he does logistics runs for his alliance and doesn't want anything changed.
He doesn't want logistics to change because it is safe and easy.
He doesn't want logistics to change because it would require more effort.
He doesn't want logistics to change because boring things in game should be simple.
He says he wants more dynamic PVP but argues that logistics interdiction is not a valid form of PVP.
This game is designed around NON-CONSENSUAL PVP, I never said anything about a 'freight moving game'. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:32:00 -
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Centra Spike wrote:thrulinn wrote:I bet he know's far more about logistic's, moving freight cheaply, and safer than you do.
You keep making it something its not. You keep thinking having more people moving goods should be the main focus of there play time. You keep pointing out WHY it has a purpose.
Great idea lets build this game around moving freight. Let turn this game back a year and pretend this ship never came out. Let's forget about getting in our ships and kill other ship's, or what ever they want to do. Lets move freight.
CCP No we want a freight moving game. We want you to make our nice JF take three or four times longer to move stuff. We never want to have fun. We just want to go system to system moving stuff.
I have yet to see you make a reply to the several post's he has made about why JF have a valid place in the game. So make a valid reply, not troll comments. Of course he knows about doing logistics, he does logistics runs for his alliance and doesn't want anything changed. He doesn't want logistics to change because it is safe and easy. He doesn't want logistics to change because it would require more effort. He doesn't want logistics to change because boring things in game should be simple. He says he wants more dynamic PVP but argues that logistics interdiction is not a valid form of PVP. This game is designed around NON-CONSENSUAL PVP, I never said anything about a 'freight moving game'.
He also dose not want, nor-should the game go back to the way it was before the JF came out. It has a valid purpose/ use. Steave has made many valid post's as to why it's needed, and why it's here to stay.
This game is also designed around CONSENSUAL PVP. Each player to a point should be able to decide if they want it or not. Since the JF help's the person decide I not going to risk pvp, so I will ask my friends/corp mates to help make it safe. You can't have it YOUR way wile other's that also pay money each month want to play there way, and I am sure there are far more than you and Steave think the JF is needed. Two people lose, all the many JF operators win.
If the JF fit my need's and I had 5bill I would use one my self. But to costly and too big for what I do. |

Ratnose Banker
Pink Sockers
8
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:55:00 -
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CCP nerfed unprobeable ships because they were raking in isk while being pretty much untouchable. Why not do the same for jump freighters?
You can say that JFs do get killed...well so did unprobeable ships. |

Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:08:00 -
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thrulinn wrote: This game is also designed around CONSENSUAL PVP.
lolno |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:15:00 -
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Nimrod Nemesis wrote:thrulinn wrote: This game is also designed around CONSENSUAL PVP.
lolno
What is wrong?? I do chose when I do want to PVP or not. |

LtCol RTButts
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.01 16:51:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. JF are overpowered. don't think it was inteded from CCP that a ship can carrier 150+ Battleships at once. CCP has killed the industrial segments in all null sec regions with only one shiptype, the JF. Don't make in so obvious your trolling.. Try looking up the stats and see just how many battleships this can actually carry.
Maybe you should do your homework, will give you much more possibilities in logistics. people who only transport 7 BS in a JF are idiots. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 17:02:00 -
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LtCol RTButts wrote:thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. JF are overpowered. don't think it was inteded from CCP that a ship can carrier 150+ Battleships at once. CCP has killed the industrial segments in all null sec regions with only one shiptype, the JF. Don't make in so obvious your trolling.. Try looking up the stats and see just how many battleships this can actually carry. Maybe you should do your homework, will give you much more possibilities in logistics. people who only transport 7 BS in a JF are idiots.
I all ready have TROLL. This ship dose not carry 150+ BSs |

LtCol RTButts
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:25:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:Aessaya wrote:Given that JFs are the only T2 capital ship in existance I'd say they can stay this way. Also, transporting unrepackaged ships in a JF? UMAD? It can fit at most 3 cruiser hulls or one BC hull, no more. I'd rather use Orca for this than the expensive JF. Or a carrier if in low/null-sec.
And no, JFs are not overpowered. Jump-bridging regular freighters is. JF are overpowered. don't think it was inteded from CCP that a ship can carrier 150+ Battleships at once. CCP has killed the industrial segments in all null sec regions with only one shiptype, the JF. Don't make in so obvious your trolling.. Try looking up the stats and see just how many battleships this can actually carry. Maybe you should do your homework, will give you much more possibilities in logistics. people who only transport 7 BS in a JF are idiots. I all ready have TROLL. This ship dose not carry 150+ BSs To test your lack of math skills, the average BS volume is 480000m3. Divide that by the cargo hold of a JF, and see what you get.
lol, okay,
mabe somebody else will explain you big scale logistic with a jump freigther. will not explain how it works when you even didn't know the difference between packaged and assemble shipvolume.
have fun :D |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:43:00 -
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LtCol RTButts wrote:
lol, okay,
mabe somebody else will explain you big scale logistic with a jump freigther. will not explain how it works when you even didn't know the difference between packaged and assemble shipvolume.
have fun :D
To bad,,Your trolling is so bad you can't show how this ship fits 150 BSs |

LtCol RTButts
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:13:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:
lol, okay,
mabe somebody else will explain you big scale logistic with a jump freigther. will not explain how it works when you even didn't know the difference between packaged and assemble shipvolume.
have fun :D
To bad,,Your trolling is so bad you can't show how this ship fits 150 BSs
i dont need too, you showed that you have no clue from a JF and that you think it can not carry a single BS. |

Omnathious Deninard
M'Tar Deadspace Guard Night Sky Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:28:00 -
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LtCol RTButts wrote:thrulinn wrote:LtCol RTButts wrote:
lol, okay,
mabe somebody else will explain you big scale logistic with a jump freigther. will not explain how it works when you even didn't know the difference between packaged and assemble shipvolume.
have fun :D
To bad,,Your trolling is so bad you can't show how this ship fits 150 BSs i dont need too, you showed that you have no clue from a JF and that you think it can not carry a single BS.
With maxed Freightr skills a Rhea can carry 7 repackaged battleships. 367968m3/50000m3 = 7 So no it can't carry 150 battleships, it REQUIRES two people to use and costs quite a bit to jump/lightyear, they were neven intended for a individual person but for a LARGE corp who operates out on null sec. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:38:00 -
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See above post LtCol RTButts TROLL... It can't carry 150 BSs..
I never said how many it could carry..Your the one that said it can carry 150+, but lack the math skills to prove it. |

Omnathious Deninard
M'Tar Deadspace Guard Night Sky Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:44:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:See above post LtCol RTButts TROLL... It can't carry 150 BSs..
I never said how many it could carry..Your the one that said it can carry 150+, but need better math skill's. I know I just have a +4 troll bane flaming longsword, that I needed to dust off. |

thrulinn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:51:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:thrulinn wrote:See above post LtCol RTButts TROLL... It can't carry 150 BSs..
I never said how many it could carry..Your the one that said it can carry 150+, but need better math skill's. I know I just have a +4 troll bane flaming longsword, that I needed to dust off.
Most here think that just because you don't agree with them 100% your are trolling them...
Nice to flame a troll every so often. |

LtCol RTButts
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.01 20:07:00 -
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thrulinn wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:thrulinn wrote:See above post LtCol RTButts TROLL... It can't carry 150 BSs..
I never said how many it could carry..Your the one that said it can carry 150+, but need better math skill's. I know I just have a +4 troll bane flaming longsword, that I needed to dust off. Most here think that just because you don't agree with them 100% your are trolling them... Nice to flame a troll every so often.
hey, you even wasn't able to put a single BS in the jumpfreigther with your great math :) yeah, it is hard without a JF, maybe i can lend you one of my JF fleet? |

Omnathious Deninard
M'Tar Deadspace Guard Night Sky Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 20:18:00 -
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LtCol RTButts wrote:thrulinn wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:thrulinn wrote:See above post LtCol RTButts TROLL... It can't carry 150 BSs..
I never said how many it could carry..Your the one that said it can carry 150+, but need better math skill's. I know I just have a +4 troll bane flaming longsword, that I needed to dust off. Most here think that just because you don't agree with them 100% your are trolling them... Nice to flame a troll every so often. hey, you even wasn't able to put a single BS in the jumpfreigther with your great math :) yeah, it is hard without a JF, maybe i can lend you one of my JF fleet? You are right I didn't put a single battleship in, I put seven in and still had room for all the modules to fit it.
My goodness this is a hard troll to kill. I will just have to keep it up till I land a crit |
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