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xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:12:00 -
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Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro. |
Gogurt
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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omg, still very mad... |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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How 'bout you make another thread to show how upset you are? |
xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:14:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game.
KAHHHHNNNNNN |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:14:00 -
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wait? wait hold on a second?
hear that?
Its not end of the world but you can see it from here. |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:15:00 -
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I thought you got to the end game by clicking the undock button... |
Handsome Hussein
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:16:00 -
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This guy is madder'n ****. I never thought i'd enjoy tears, but super-cap l33t pvper tears are the best tears.
Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |
Gogurt
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:16:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:I thought you got to the end game by clicking the undock button...
Controlling all of the sand in the sandbox is a good end game to, if you have that type of personality. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:17:00 -
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Well it sure isn't dreads because to be quite honest, the changes suggested still leave them wanting.
Why even nerf dread drone bays tbh?
CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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Takamori Maruyama
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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>sandbox
>endgame
Excuse me , wtf are you doing?
The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
44
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back*
*opens tear jar and starts filling it up*
*closing tear jar and starts walking away* |
KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
EVE has an end game huh? I'm pretty sure that it doesn't, seeing as it's a sandbox game.
Supercaps shouldn't be the be-all-and-end-all. It doesn't fit in with the strategic depth of EVE.
Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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The new end game is conquering all of Null in a Rifter - enjoy...
There's nothing worse than leaving a bad looking corpse |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:19:00 -
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Quote: What is the end-game now?
Same as it's always been...
Master forum warrior.
Mr Epeen 
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:22:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground,
heh
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:26:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back*
*opens tear jar and starts filling it up*
*closing tear jar and starts walking away*
Hey! HEY! Get back here and share!
Oh wait.. nevermind... there's plenty. Sorry 'bout that...
Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
460
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:29:00 -
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The same thing it always was: whatever you want it to be.
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
baltec1
88
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:30:00 -
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There is no end game in EVE. |
URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:38:00 -
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they havent been nerfed into the ground could of be alot worse than the changes that are happening , ill still use my sc and im sure there will be plenty of fights to be had , least there wont be the log offski to worry about now. |
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:39:00 -
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When was flying an Aeon or Avatar the end game of EVE?
Why are people setting my end game?
Currently, my goals are 10b isk and one of every subcap Pirate ship.
How may I drug you with drugs? |
Manaba Jackelope
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot's avatar is the end-game. How did you manage that hideous thing? |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled
The.Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 18:29:00 -
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End game of eve online is trolling on your main. You move on pretty quickly after that
**** you
(im sure you will find something) |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
243
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:36:00 -
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Best advice.
End. Game.
can i haz?
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest.
WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:40:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back*
*opens tear jar and starts filling it up*
*closing tear jar and starts walking away*
Can I buy these tears from you?
I wash my Loki with them it makes it nice and shiny |
Russell Casey
One Ton
the dragons of eve
21
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:42:00 -
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So much for EVE being a totally different experience than WoW..... |
Cozmik R5
Dock 94
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:45:00 -
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You should fly T1 fit Rifters for a change... tons more fun than fat supercaps even if you die repeatedly!
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Lithalnas
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:52:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
"This literary paper is deeply flawed. " - an old economics professor
Quote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Your assumption is that there is supposed to be an endgame in eve. The sandbox is what you make of it, not what CCP designates what is 'endgame'.
Quote:Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
source? I remember hearing years ago on the old forums that a vast majority of active accounts were less than 1 year old. Really, no statement should be made without subscription data.
Quote:Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Well this is a bit unsupported. Other than the introduction of T3 there has been no new toys since 2007 (teir 2 bc and teir 3 bs). Sure there have some minor items and some gimmicks but the fact remains that the player-base is roughly 10x what it was when these ships were introduced. My theory is that Eve content is generated by the players in terms of nullsec wars and whatnot.
How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akira T)
http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
113
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:57:00 -
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Endgame is whatever you decide it is.
"Owning the biggest bestest ship ever" is only one, small, narrow-minded way to define endgame.
Similarly, many people consider nullsec the ultimate endgame, and hordes of players flock out there only to find it mostly empty, not particularly profitable, and PvP only existing at its blobbiest.
A happy satisfied player finds new goals all the time in a sandbox game. There is no need to constantly increase the level cap (same as asking for a new supercap toy) when there is so much else to pursue.
Endgame for some is being the richest player in eve - for others its just dominating one item in the market. Endgame could be mastering solo dogfight against a superior ships, or finally assasinating one pesky pilot who has bested you for years.
Endgame could be forming a corporation, and alliance, or a coalition. Endgame could be dismantling an Alliance. Endgame could be winning the most kills of your militia for 3 months straight. Endgame could be organizing a carrier take-down involving noobships.
Endgame could be starting a casino (Somer Blink) and never having to work for isk again. Endgame could be getting elected to CSM.
Endgame could be working for CCP, designing the game you love. Endgame could be designing a new ship and having it implemented in the game. Endgame could be building a supercapital ship. Endgame could be learning to cook every dangerous and rare booster in the game.
Endgame could be scamming players out of a trillion isk in a Ponzi scheme.
Endgame could be roaming with friends in rifters, like you've done a thousand times before, just because its your favorite ship and you're still having fun.
Endgame is what you make of it. Use your imagination, and encourage others to do the same! |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
113
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:05:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
Does guderian knows you're making s2n look bad?
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
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