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xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:12:00 -
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Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro. |

Gogurt
23
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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omg, still very mad... |

Abrazzar
181
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Fix Lag
92
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:13:00 -
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How 'bout you make another thread to show how upset you are? |

xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
44
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:14:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game.
KAHHHHNNNNNN |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
44
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:14:00 -
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wait? wait hold on a second?
hear that?
Its not end of the world but you can see it from here. |

Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
21
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:15:00 -
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I thought you got to the end game by clicking the undock button... |

Handsome Hussein
23
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:16:00 -
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This guy is madder'n ****. I never thought i'd enjoy tears, but super-cap l33t pvper tears are the best tears. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |

Gogurt
23
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:16:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:I thought you got to the end game by clicking the undock button...
Controlling all of the sand in the sandbox is a good end game to, if you have that type of personality. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
26
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:17:00 -
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Well it sure isn't dreads because to be quite honest, the changes suggested still leave them wanting. Why even nerf dread drone bays tbh? CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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Takamori Maruyama
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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>sandbox >endgame
Excuse me , wtf are you doing? The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
44
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back* *opens tear jar and starts filling it up* *closing tear jar and starts walking away* |

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
22
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
EVE has an end game huh? I'm pretty sure that it doesn't, seeing as it's a sandbox game. Supercaps shouldn't be the be-all-and-end-all. It doesn't fit in with the strategic depth of EVE. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director |

Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
22
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:18:00 -
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The new end game is conquering all of Null in a Rifter - enjoy... There's nothing worse than leaving a bad looking corpse |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
367
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:19:00 -
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Quote: What is the end-game now?
Same as it's always been...
Master forum warrior.
Mr Epeen  If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
453
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:22:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, heh
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
114
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:26:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back* *opens tear jar and starts filling it up* *closing tear jar and starts walking away*
Hey! HEY! Get back here and share!
Oh wait.. nevermind... there's plenty. Sorry 'bout that... Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
460
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:29:00 -
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The same thing it always was: whatever you want it to be. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

baltec1
88
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:30:00 -
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There is no end game in EVE. |

URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:38:00 -
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they havent been nerfed into the ground could of be alot worse than the changes that are happening , ill still use my sc and im sure there will be plenty of fights to be had , least there wont be the log offski to worry about now. |
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness
34
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:39:00 -
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When was flying an Aeon or Avatar the end game of EVE?
Why are people setting my end game?
Currently, my goals are 10b isk and one of every subcap Pirate ship. How may I drug you with drugs? |

Manaba Jackelope
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 17:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot's avatar is the end-game. How did you manage that hideous thing? |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
28
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Posted - 2011.10.11 18:29:00 -
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End game of eve online is trolling on your main. You move on pretty quickly after that
**** you
(im sure you will find something) |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
243
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:36:00 -
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Best advice.
End. Game.
can i haz? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:40:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:*walks past thread* ..... *stops and walks back* *opens tear jar and starts filling it up* *closing tear jar and starts walking away*
Can I buy these tears from you?
I wash my Loki with them it makes it nice and shiny |

Russell Casey
One Ton the dragons of eve
21
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:42:00 -
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So much for EVE being a totally different experience than WoW..... |

Cozmik R5
Dock 94
37
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:45:00 -
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You should fly T1 fit Rifters for a change... tons more fun than fat supercaps even if you die repeatedly! Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |

Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:52:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
"This literary paper is deeply flawed. " - an old economics professor
Quote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Your assumption is that there is supposed to be an endgame in eve. The sandbox is what you make of it, not what CCP designates what is 'endgame'.
Quote:Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
source? I remember hearing years ago on the old forums that a vast majority of active accounts were less than 1 year old. Really, no statement should be made without subscription data.
Quote:Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Well this is a bit unsupported. Other than the introduction of T3 there has been no new toys since 2007 (teir 2 bc and teir 3 bs). Sure there have some minor items and some gimmicks but the fact remains that the player-base is roughly 10x what it was when these ships were introduced. My theory is that Eve content is generated by the players in terms of nullsec wars and whatnot.
How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akira T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
113
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:57:00 -
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Endgame is whatever you decide it is.
"Owning the biggest bestest ship ever" is only one, small, narrow-minded way to define endgame.
Similarly, many people consider nullsec the ultimate endgame, and hordes of players flock out there only to find it mostly empty, not particularly profitable, and PvP only existing at its blobbiest.
A happy satisfied player finds new goals all the time in a sandbox game. There is no need to constantly increase the level cap (same as asking for a new supercap toy) when there is so much else to pursue.
Endgame for some is being the richest player in eve - for others its just dominating one item in the market. Endgame could be mastering solo dogfight against a superior ships, or finally assasinating one pesky pilot who has bested you for years.
Endgame could be forming a corporation, and alliance, or a coalition. Endgame could be dismantling an Alliance. Endgame could be winning the most kills of your militia for 3 months straight. Endgame could be organizing a carrier take-down involving noobships.
Endgame could be starting a casino (Somer Blink) and never having to work for isk again. Endgame could be getting elected to CSM.
Endgame could be working for CCP, designing the game you love. Endgame could be designing a new ship and having it implemented in the game. Endgame could be building a supercapital ship. Endgame could be learning to cook every dangerous and rare booster in the game.
Endgame could be scamming players out of a trillion isk in a Ponzi scheme.
Endgame could be roaming with friends in rifters, like you've done a thousand times before, just because its your favorite ship and you're still having fun.
Endgame is what you make of it. Use your imagination, and encourage others to do the same! |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
113
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:05:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
Does guderian knows you're making s2n look bad? Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
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Martinez
T-Cells Moar Tears
1
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:22:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Well it sure isn't dreads because to be quite honest, the changes suggested still leaves them wanting. Why even nerf dread drone bays tbh?
LOL oh your tears fuel the forums. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
78
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:24:00 -
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I thought that the endgame in this game was to getting podded by the first time... [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

ArmyOfMe
TEDDYBEARS. Excuses.
18
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:28:00 -
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Did someone mention forumwarriors?
Im back baby
CCP, for the love of god boost the deimos..... |

Kumq uat
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:37:00 -
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Moar tears pls! |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:46:00 -
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See how many super caps I can log off and forget about in low-sec ? Carriers of old (Fighters vs Bombers and Fighter Screens) |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
80
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:49:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Quote: What is the end-game now? Same as it's always been... Master forum warrior. Mr Epeen 
Forums got nerfed into the ground too.
Why u not mad bro?
Your end game has no colors or ponies! This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |

Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:02:00 -
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Obviously the end game is being as mad as you are. |

Max Torps
Nomadic Conglomerate
8
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:13:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead. Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
The end-game in Eve has never been about flying the biggest ship. It's always been about making the biggest difference or having an impact to the game. Whether that is in game through corp or alliance influence or through the CSM or through other means, the game is more than flying the biggest. It's about being the best you can be. I, for one, welcome our new frigate overlords.
Starfleet Comms Podcast - Your journey through the Eve Universe! http://www.starfleetcomms.com
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:17:00 -
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The end game has started |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
43
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:35:00 -
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Couldn't be bothered to read this whole thread. Sandbox games by definition have no "end game".
Speaking frankly, no MMO has an "end game". You can reach end of your personal life though waiting for new content in themepark MMOs, bored to death being a hero just like all the rest of em, while in a sandbox like EVE you reach "end game content" when your brain tells you it can't cope anymore or can't come up with new stuff to do.
That is when you take a break. Take a break and mourn your superCap is my advice. Come back when you see the depth that can be EVE again. |
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
96
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:40:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
CLUE FOR THE CLUELESS:
Bigger is not better - it never has been before supers, never should have been, and hopefully never will be again.
There was a time when carriers and dreadnaughts were "the end game", however they were vulnerable if they didn't have support. A solo carrier/dreadnaught could be easily defeated by just a couple talented battleship pilots fit properly for the task. This is the way it should be.
If you want to be able to slaughter hundreds - even thousands of other players just because you have reached "the end game", then WoW is that way -------> |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
347
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:47:00 -
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The endgame is having fun.
No concerns about K/D ratios and shrugging at being blobbed. morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:49:00 -
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There is no end game. Only the drive to keep on going. As an industrialist, I have reached the pinnacle of my mining career, but that was never my end game because end games do not exist in Eve. I was there. |

Ur235
Mind Games. 0ccupational Hazzard
2
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:50:00 -
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There is no Endgame its a sandbox game, the game is whatever the players make of it
You want end game try WoW |

Demon Azrakel
Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck
34
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Posted - 2011.10.12 00:52:00 -
[45] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
There is no endgame. This is EVE. |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
174
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Posted - 2011.10.12 00:56:00 -
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Who said end game was super caps?
End game is supposed to hold sov?
what about wh space?
End game is what ever you make it, People say super caps are end game because that is a flying coffin. |

Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
11
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Posted - 2011.10.12 01:03:00 -
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I love threads like this. It lets me get lots of useless memes in one one post. Let's see how many I can get in on this one.
The rage is strong with this one.
Your tears sustain me.
Cry moar.
There is no end-game. Only Eve.
Go back to WoW.
Hmm... yup. That'll do.
Oh, wait. I can haz supers?
Ok, done. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Pestilent Industries
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
2
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Posted - 2011.10.12 01:27:00 -
[48] - Quote
Goonswarm Drake & Hurricane blobs. |

cyclobs
Loud Curse Enterprises
4
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Posted - 2011.10.12 01:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
came for super tears. left pleased |

MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
2
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:09:00 -
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xxxak wrote:CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Not CCP's responsibility. CCP's only role as far as "end game" is to muddle the mix every now and then when a large number of players think there is only one "end game." I think they've shown the ability to do that.
The players will determine a new "end game".
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exozone
Omber Company Gryphon League
1
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:16:00 -
[51] - Quote
Eve is a journey not a destination, there is no end game...........
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Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1247
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:48:00 -
[53] - Quote
The end game in EVE has always been whatever you want it to be. Do you want to fly around all by yourself, shooting NPCs? Then the end game for you might be Level 5 missions, or it might be DED 10/10 complexes, or it might be Guristas Sanctums, or it might be farming COSMOS sites for their drops to put up on overpriced contracts. Do you want to fly in groups, shooting NPCs? The endgame for you might be 10-man Incursions, or it might be DED 10/10 complexes, or it might be Level 5 missions. Do you want to fly in a group of players, shooting other players? Then the end game for you might be a Rifter; or, it might be an Avatar; or, it might be a Hound; or, it might be a Tengu; or, it might be a Hurricane. The unique and endearing thing about EVE is that the game is completely lacking in content that is doled out for you as the correct course; instead, the game is literally whatever you make of it. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1247
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:49:00 -
[54] - Quote
My personal end game is to become a Good Poster. |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
176
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:56:00 -
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If supers are your idea of "endgame" then you really should quit Eve and go play something like WoW. Then you can work to get all your top tier epic gear, and pat yourself on the back telling yourself that you won the game. Eve doesn't have a endgame and even if it did, it wouldn't be based off a certain ship class.
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Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2011.10.12 03:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
Still mad? |

Flyinghotpocket
Ascetic Virtues
1
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Posted - 2011.10.12 04:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
Things that get noobs excited, Faction Warfare. Generating the most Economy, Faction Warfare. The real endgame, Faction Warfare.
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Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
97
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Posted - 2011.10.12 06:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
the endgame of EVE is having real power over real people, not "owning" some pixels that will be blown up in the next battle. |

Moustached Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
29
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Posted - 2011.10.12 06:54:00 -
[59] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
There is no end-game and there never was an end-game. Petition Blizzard if you want a linear MMO. |

Messoroz
AQUILA INC
28
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Posted - 2011.10.12 06:55:00 -
[60] - Quote
Eve end game? -1.0 space or wspace. Beats 0.0 |
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Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
0
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Posted - 2011.10.12 07:00:00 -
[61] - Quote
My ******* gods, I am the biggest carebear that ever cared about bears but this is too sweet not to just stop and harvest some tears of my very own.
So supercaps are finally going to work like real world capital ships - ie, screwed if they lose their support fleet?
1: I don't give a crap, I live in hisec and have never even SEEN a supercap. 2: Evolve or die. 3: ???? 4: Give me your stuff. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.10.12 07:05:00 -
[62] - Quote
Cry some more. |

Sturmwolke
24
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Posted - 2011.10.12 07:21:00 -
[63] - Quote
Your end-game in this case is getting infamous in the EVE forums for extreme tears over the SC nerf. The forum has a very long memory and the public perception here will spill/carry over into the game.
There are good reasons why some people don't post with their mains (or non-throw away alts).
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
431
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Posted - 2011.10.12 07:28:00 -
[64] - Quote
The end-game is the same as it's ever goddamn been:
A DRAKE PUTTING OUT 600 EM DPS PER SECOND ON TOP SECRET COMBAT PATROLS
Yes, everyone remembers who you are, fool
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |

Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2011.10.12 07:39:00 -
[65] - Quote
The end game is you quit. Bye. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
The end game is to make good posts. |

Josefius
Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
14
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Posted - 2011.10.12 16:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Tears are so yummie! |

Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
5
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Wait, Draeks aren't endgame?!  |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
0
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:20:00 -
[69] - Quote
xxxak wrote: Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE.
Not quite. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
920
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
xxxak wrote: CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
not ccp's fault that you lack the charisma, ambition and skill to adopt a leadership role in nullsec
that's the endgame son, not having a titan or a supercarrier - becoming a leader and taking your people to war, and winning. |
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Ilkahn
United Aerospace Co-op
2
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:52:00 -
[71] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game. KAHHHHNNNNNN
Yes? |

Ilkahn
United Aerospace Co-op
2
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:59:00 -
[72] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote:the endgame of EVE is having real power over real people, .....
Excuse me while i go off in a corner and laugh. No, seriously, i'm laughing with you. |

Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate BricK sQuAD.
12
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:11:00 -
[73] - Quote
Clearly, the end game is nigh. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1714
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:29:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ilkahn wrote:Florestan Bronstein wrote:the endgame of EVE is having real power over real people, ..... Excuse me while i go off in a corner and laugh. No, seriously, i'm laughing with you. What he said is true. I know, because Dear Leader said so. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1714
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:30:00 -
[75] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:xxxak wrote: CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
not ccp's fault that you lack the charisma, ambition and skill to adopt a leadership role in nullsec that's the endgame son, not having a titan or a supercarrier - becoming a leader and taking your people to war, and winning. As it happens that's the endgame in any MMO. Back when I played WOW, the endgame for me wasn't to have tier-whatever pixels or a big number beside my arena rating. The endgame was having the prestige, the power, and the fame of being a leader of other anti-social nerds, of being provably better than you, your friends, and everyone else you know, and so forth. MMOs are all about social dynamics and group activity. |

Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
0
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:32:00 -
[76] - Quote
Bumblefck wrote:The end-game is the same as it's ever goddamn been:
A DRAKE PUTTING OUT 600 EM DPS PER SECOND ON TOP SECRET COMBAT PATROLS
Yes, everyone remembers who you are, fool
just because i haven't posted in some time i feel the need to do this
((600 EM) damage/second)/second it could then be written as ((600 EM)damage*second)/second
second/second =1
would come out to 600 EM damage
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1714
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:37:00 -
[77] - Quote
DPS per second actually refers to damage acceleration, which in turn can be used to derive damage momentum, damage velocity, and, ultimately, damage gravity, damage quantum flux, and damage spin. This is proof positive that Garen is overpowered with his broken spin-to-win attack. |

Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
1
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:44:00 -
[78] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:DPS per second actually refers to damage acceleration, which in turn can be used to derive damage momentum, damage velocity, and, ultimately, damage gravity, damage quantum flux, and damage spin. This is proof positive that Garen is overpowered with his broken spin-to-win attack.
untrue, because you are forgetting the teemo bait variable
B^t
this states that if a teemo is present the garen will be attacted to said teemo and ignore the team fight, thus loosing it for his team.
this is proof positive as i have just played 3 games this morning wile playing teemo and had 2 garens follow me across the map just to die from shrooms and blind darts |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1714
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
Hecatonis wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:DPS per second actually refers to damage acceleration, which in turn can be used to derive damage momentum, damage velocity, and, ultimately, damage gravity, damage quantum flux, and damage spin. This is proof positive that Garen is overpowered with his broken spin-to-win attack. untrue, because you are forgetting the teemo bait variable B^t this states that if a teemo is present the garen will be attacted to said teemo and ignore the team fight, thus loosing it for his team. this is proof positive as i have just played 3 games this morning wile playing teemo and had 2 garens follow me across the map just to die from shrooms and blind darts +1 for Teemo |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:58:00 -
[80] - Quote
They arnt out of the game, merely reduced to the role they were supposed to have from th esatrt, to be an awesomely strong addition to a large fleet, not to be a fleet all alone. |
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Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
1
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Posted - 2011.10.12 19:02:00 -
[81] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Hecatonis wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:DPS per second actually refers to damage acceleration, which in turn can be used to derive damage momentum, damage velocity, and, ultimately, damage gravity, damage quantum flux, and damage spin. This is proof positive that Garen is overpowered with his broken spin-to-win attack. untrue, because you are forgetting the teemo bait variable B^t this states that if a teemo is present the garen will be attacted to said teemo and ignore the team fight, thus loosing it for his team. this is proof positive as i have just played 3 games this morning wile playing teemo and had 2 garens follow me across the map just to die from shrooms and blind darts +1 for Teemo
i feel dirty, i agree with goon.
shower time :P |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1716
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Posted - 2011.10.12 19:02:00 -
[82] - Quote
:quagmire: |

Tonemaster B
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 20:12:00 -
[83] - Quote
Supercarriers only been in the game like a year sheesh now you act like the game can't exist without them.
(Yes, I remember Motherships)
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
363
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Posted - 2011.10.12 20:21:00 -
[84] - Quote
Supercarriers? More like Idiotcarriers from the hurf blurf on the forums. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |

Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
363
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Posted - 2011.10.12 20:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote::David Attenborough:
And here, we see the FOTM kiddie in its natural habitat, the forums. This one has just lost his ability to hunt with impunity, never needing to rely on his wit nor his skill. Having grown soft when he could hunt with ease, he has realized that he may struggle to hunt, now that he is on a level playing field with the rest of the jungle. His response, as you can see, is to pull out his hair and gnash at the shadows, occasionally screaming gibberish. He may not survive the winter. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
74
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Posted - 2011.10.12 20:29:00 -
[86] - Quote
Manaba Jackelope wrote:Ladie Harlot's avatar is the end-game. How did you manage that hideous thing?
Let's just say it was modelled on a photograph of a real person. |

Kengutsi Akira
32
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Posted - 2011.10.12 20:39:00 -
[87] - Quote
The OP ships were made not OP the pilots of said ships are angry. Game will not die |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
474
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 21:02:00 -
[88] - Quote
Sverige Pahis wrote:Manaba Jackelope wrote:Ladie Harlot's avatar is the end-game. How did you manage that hideous thing? Let's just say it was modelled on a photograph of a real person. It is, indeed, a painstaking reproduction.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9
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Posted - 2011.10.12 21:07:00 -
[89] - Quote
There is no end-game in EVE like we have in all the others MMO out there. For me, my end-game is to reach my goals and when i do it, set other one and so on. |

CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2011.10.12 21:10:00 -
[90] - Quote
Ctlr & q ends game |
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Cozmik R5
Dock 94
39
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Posted - 2011.10.12 21:14:00 -
[91] - Quote
Kirk wins, as it should be :) Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |

CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2011.10.12 23:13:00 -
[92] - Quote
Cozmik R5 wrote:Kirk wins, as it should be :)
QTF! |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2011.10.12 23:52:00 -
[93] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:xxxak wrote: CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
not ccp's fault that you lack the charisma, ambition and skill to adopt a leadership role in nullsec that's the endgame son, not having a titan or a supercarrier - becoming a leader and taking your people to war, and winning.
You are failing hard at the end game then. Goons pretty much just stay docked up in Deklein. |

ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.12 23:54:00 -
[94] - Quote
Some people cant get past the idea that bigger is better. It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean.... |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
76
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:23:00 -
[95] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Being a bitter vet trolling the forums is and always has been the end game. KAHHHHNNNNNN
yup, thats it right there
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
56
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:41:00 -
[96] - Quote
Sturmwolke wrote:Your end-game in this case is getting infamous in the EVE forums for extreme tears over the SC nerf. The forum has a very long memory and the public perception here will spill/carry over into the game.
There are good reasons why some people don't post with their mains (or non-throw away alts).
Fear is one thing that has no place in EVE. Nerfing supers is not going to help the N+1/Blob problem. It will just mean that superpilots will be even more likely to want to blob. Think more creatively. Support the idea of a subcap "assault bomber." |

xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
56
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:42:00 -
[97] - Quote
Bumblefck wrote:The end-game is the same as it's ever goddamn been:
A DRAKE PUTTING OUT 600 EM DPS PER SECOND ON TOP SECRET COMBAT PATROLS
Yes, everyone remembers who you are, fool
I'm hard. Nerfing supers is not going to help the N+1/Blob problem. It will just mean that superpilots will be even more likely to want to blob. Think more creatively. Support the idea of a subcap "assault bomber." |

xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
56
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:43:00 -
[98] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:xxxak wrote: CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
not ccp's fault that you lack the charisma, ambition and skill to adopt a leadership role in nullsec that's the endgame son, not having a titan or a supercarrier - becoming a leader and taking your people to war, and winning.
I have, finally, managed to garner the attention of The Mittani.
/EvE Nerfing supers is not going to help the N+1/Blob problem. It will just mean that superpilots will be even more likely to want to blob. Think more creatively. Support the idea of a subcap "assault bomber." |

Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
47
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:44:00 -
[99] - Quote
xxxak wrote:CCP may havI have, finally, managed to garner the attention of The Mittani.
/EvE There you go...you found your new end game.
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Adum
The Confederation The Confederation Empire
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 09:23:00 -
[100] - Quote
. |
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Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
25
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Posted - 2011.10.13 09:41:00 -
[101] - Quote
xxxak wrote: CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
If you limit your end-game to the ship you fly, you seriously lack ambition.
Leaving your mark in Eve's history, THAT is the real end-game. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
94
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Posted - 2011.10.13 10:14:00 -
[102] - Quote
EVE's end game a few months ago was World of Tanks, i'm not so sure now. |

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 10:37:00 -
[103] - Quote
The end game is deciding what you enjoy doing most and being the best person you know at doing it. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
310
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 11:49:00 -
[104] - Quote
Eve's endgame starts the moment you undock for the first time. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
8
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Posted - 2011.10.13 11:52:00 -
[105] - Quote
EvE is a sandbox, there is no end game unless you decide to unsub.
Just because the instant "I win" button you fly around got rebalanced and you start having to think about and taking the same risks as 95% of the other players in Null / Lowsec doesn't mean the game is dead. If anything using that ship should provide more fun and excitement because there is a risk of losing it. |

Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:01:00 -
[106] - Quote
At the old folks home, with almost all skills maxed.. Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here.. |

pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
102
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:15:00 -
[107] - Quote
I think it is sad when one think that flying supercaps is your endgame, really sad when you can do so many things besides flying your ' IWIN' toy
Really OP,try something else than flying around in your nyx , you might even find yourself enjoying the game I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Aase Nord
Vikinghall
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:34:00 -
[108] - Quote
pussnheels wrote:I think it is sad when one think that flying supercaps is your endgame, really sad when you can do so many things besides flying your ' IWIN' toy
Really OP,try something else than flying around in your nyx , you might even find yourself enjoying the game
Every super pilot have an alt flying subcap.  I only let my nyx pilot die in hes ship. No need to pay money for him anymore
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Illyena Rovask
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:22:00 -
[109] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:My personal end game is to become a Good Poster. Then you already won EVE! |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:24:00 -
[110] - Quote
End-Game is reading general discussion forums and taking it seriously hoping to enlighten the general public with your view of how the game should be played. |
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
55
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:39:00 -
[111] - Quote
EVE is the end game. Then it is over. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
167
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:40:00 -
[112] - Quote
xxxak wrote:Now that supers have been nerfed into the ground, CCP has about 6 months to come up with a new "end-game" or this game will be dead.
Hardcore, "hobby" type players are the core of EVE. The people who drive fights, produce the most in the economy, and so forth.
If you nerf their "end game" toy out of the fight, you need something to replace it.
Perhaps WiS will be the answer, or maybe a new class of T3, but CCP... seriously, you have to think this through.
MMOs live and die based on their end game. There has to be something that n00bs get excited about once the initial novelty wears off after the first few weeks/months.
CCP may have a PhD economist on their staff, but their psychology/marketing people are re-tards. EVERYONE who plays an MMO has some sort of fantasy of power. There has to be an end-game.
Also, my spaceship was really expensive and I am mad, bro.
End Game = Being a drone of an 0.0 alliance/coalition |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
122
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:52:00 -
[113] - Quote
What game? There's a game? |

Saraell Tellon
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:59:00 -
[114] - Quote
Read a few pages, couldn't be bothered reading more. Yeah, the supercap 'nerf' makes them less amazing. But I think that now they'll have to be used in a way more akin to that which CCP no doubt originally envisioned for them: a few of them, flagships if you will, flying amongst a fleet of capital and subcapital support. They were never meant to be the 'end-game', that owning one meant you won any fight you went into. They were intended as a way to add strength to an already-strong fleet. I personally feel that what they've done is perfect, flying one solo without a proper support fleet means you'll lose it. Fly it with the proper fleet, however, and your whole fleet becomes that much more effective. |

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:59:00 -
[115] - Quote
My end game is playing for free, perpetually. The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4004
|
Posted - 2011.11.12 10:01:00 -
[116] - Quote
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:My end game is playing for free, perpetually. Not a very difficult goal. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2011.11.12 10:06:00 -
[117] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:My end game is playing for free, perpetually. Not a very difficult goal.
I'm pretty lazy.
The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality. |

cyka776
8
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Posted - 2011.11.12 10:14:00 -
[118] - Quote
old endgame lost of old
play and lose and have done with losing |

Saraell Tellon
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 10:26:00 -
[119] - Quote
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:My end game is playing for free, perpetually. Not a very difficult goal. I'm pretty lazy.
That, and also making enough ISK not only to play for free, but to have plenty to spend/throw away on expensive pixels to blow up. |

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2011.11.12 10:33:00 -
[120] - Quote
Saraell Tellon wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:My end game is playing for free, perpetually. Not a very difficult goal. I'm pretty lazy. That, and also making enough ISK not only to play for free, but to have plenty to spend/throw away on expensive pixels to blow up.
If I had even enough for a few disposable fitted rifters every month after buying a plex I'd be happy. The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality. |
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