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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.07.19 09:04:00 -
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I tried my first level 3 mission last night. In fact me a nd a corpmate did it cooperatively. It was the one with the pair of pirates "duo" something or other it is called.
NEVER before have I been so embarassed! We were both in battlecruisers. We warp in, 30 seconds later, my shields are down, "Run Away" I cry! 30 seconds after that my friend is also heading away. Those Dread Pithum Crushers were deadly! Being bracketed between two elite cruisers and two turrets is not fun!
In the end another of our corpmates flew 25 jumps to pick up his scorpion and our CEO logged in just in time to bring a wolf.
From then on it was plain sailing, but what a step up! I could do level 2s (prepatch I admit) in my uber kessie, level 3s I will have to wait till i can actually kit out the battleship i built!
I shall exact my revenge eventually, but till then if you see a red faced guy about, its probably me!
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Save me Jebus!
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gfldex
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Posted - 2005.07.19 09:14:00 -
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Are you just whining or do you try to ask for advice in a strange way?
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.07.19 09:23:00 -
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 Originally by: gfldex
Are you just whining or do you try to ask for advice in a strange way?
Neither, I was trying to post a funny tale, I guess I failed in that regard. I love EVE, even if I had lost my ship I would not whine!
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Okoru
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Posted - 2005.07.19 11:12:00 -
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I used to suicide l3's in a rax  now I fly a bs for them. Not very fun using a bs tbh. lock, fire guns til they die, repeat. 
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What I say has nothing to reflect on what my corp decides, because... I'm stupid! :D
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deadmaus
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Posted - 2005.07.19 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Dentill
Originally by: gfldex
Are you just whining or do you try to ask for advice in a strange way?
Neither, I was trying to post a funny tale, I guess I failed in that regard. I love EVE, even if I had lost my ship I would not whine!
I thought/new it was a fun story as the same thing happeened to me last week ( first lev3 mission)in my cruiser. Gonna have another wee try until my BC arrives. Level 2's are just too damn easy and the curve to 3 is too steep I think. Level 2.5 might be a go ( kidding).
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deadmaus
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Posted - 2005.07.19 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Okoru
I used to suicide l3's
Not sure what that means sorry. |
MachZERO
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Posted - 2005.07.19 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: deadmaus
I thought/new it was a fun story as the same thing happeened to me last week ( first lev3 mission)in my cruiser. Gonna have another wee try until my BC arrives. Level 2's are just too damn easy and the curve to 3 is too steep I think. Level 2.5 might be a go ( kidding).
Wait till ya see the curve to lvl 4's.. 
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Hrco
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Posted - 2005.07.19 12:45:00 -
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Well, Im playing EVe from 17.05 2005. So im young.
And i find myself to do some lev3 missions lot easier in MAller-cruiser than in BC-Prophecy.
Maybe i just used my fights for quicker and closer fights..so changing from Cruiser to BC for lev 3 is not neccesary "I will be safe from now on"...lol
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scruffythedog
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:08:00 -
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used to walk lvl4's before patch.....
just got back to doing missions after a little break,
so far I'm finding my Assult Frig (Retribution) does great at lvl3's, no problem so far. gonna stick with them until my missile skills improve, and by that i mean getting the new skills to lvl4 i guess 
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Xavier Belt
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:36:00 -
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High-quality Level 3s (where you end up facing Minmatar Stabbers and tougher threats) are really tough for cruisers. However, it's still viable to do low-quality level III kill missions in my experience, although some may be tougher than others. I've been able to do them in my Omen, although it is very risky. (I have 600,000 skill points.) For instance, never let the Viral Infector Drones close to anything resembling fire range. The bastards are tough as nails (it took forever to even take down the shields- with lasers!) and do lots of damage.
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Borys
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Posted - 2005.07.20 10:47:00 -
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I am currently doing lvl 3 missions in a Ferox, tanked the shields and use missiles. I¦m not doing lvl 3 missions now because of the latest patch, but for me the Ferox works great. It just soaks up all the damage it recieves and I just pick of the NPC¦s at my leisure. Never had to flee in lvl 3 mission, pre-patch that is...
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elFarto
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Posted - 2005.07.20 10:53:00 -
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I run lvl3 mission in my ferox, and the only mission that could be a problem is black market hub, my shields were taken down to 48%.
All the rest are a walk in the park.
Regards
elFarto
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.07.20 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Borys
I am currently doing lvl 3 missions in a Ferox, tanked the shields and use missiles. I¦m not doing lvl 3 missions now because of the latest patch, but for me the Ferox works great. It just soaks up all the damage it recieves and I just pick of the NPC¦s at my leisure. Never had to flee in lvl 3 mission, pre-patch that is...
I have seriously neglected my missile skills so since the patch my missiles have a habit of bouncing off. Infact all my skills in the combat arena have been neglected. I am starting to sort them out. It is my own fault really, but hey every hour brings me one step closer.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.07.20 13:28:00 -
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did duo of the death without breaking a sweat in my overpowered thorax last night, everyone should fly one, hooray!
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.07.20 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
did duo of the death without breaking a sweat in my overpowered thorax last night, everyone should fly one, hooray!
Aye that is the one that I fubared
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Addicus Zed
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Posted - 2005.07.20 17:55:00 -
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Hmm...to be honest, lvl 3 after patch is something. Blew up my Ferox when my new missile skills were low, that made me hold on till I have my skills up high again. Then tried it with a new Ferox...kinda fun now if you asked me. A proper shield tanking is superb for lvl 3, some might be easy and some might be hard. So it gives the challenge there actually but the worst mission I would say is 'Silence the Informant'  That's the mission that chewed my Ferox like bubble gum!! After some time, a buddy did the same mission and blew his Ferox too. So it's not me alone after all, it's the damn mission!! For those of you who haven't encountered 'Silence the Informant' mission, be very VERY careful.
Those that have no prob doing it in a BC...bravo! Coz I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon, plenty of other lvl 3 missions to do IMO.
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2005.07.20 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Addicus Zed
Hmm...to be honest, lvl 3 after patch is something. Blew up my Ferox when my new missile skills were low, that made me hold on till I have my skills up high again. Then tried it with a new Ferox...kinda fun now if you asked me. A proper shield tanking is superb for lvl 3, some might be easy and some might be hard. So it gives the challenge there actually but the worst mission I would say is 'Silence the Informant' That's the mission that chewed my Ferox like bubble gum!! After some time, a buddy did the same mission and blew his Ferox too. So it's not me alone after all, it's the damn mission!! For those of you who haven't encountered 'Silence the Informant' mission, be very VERY careful.
Those that have no prob doing it in a BC...bravo! Coz I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon, plenty of other lvl 3 missions to do IMO.
The second stage of silence does a ton of em/thermal damage. Its hard to shield tank against it.
I dont believe there are any scrambler frigs though, so I'm not sure how you lost your ship. Make sure youre aligned, dont just sit there and realize at half structure you need to warp out.
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Captain Rod
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Posted - 2005.07.20 19:28:00 -
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Well there has been at least 1 mission since patch that has broken my bs tank, and I know how to tank a ship. So as is encoraged do your level 3 and 4 missions in a team. Much more fun thatway 
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.07.20 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Fear
I dont believe there are any scrambler frigs though, so I'm not sure how you lost your ship. Make sure youre aligned, dont just sit there and realize at half structure you need to warp out.
There was in the pre patch version, it did not scramble everytime (lost my first ferox to that detail)...
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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ArchenTheGreat
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Addicus Zed
Those that have no prob doing it in a BC...bravo! Coz I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon, plenty of other lvl 3 missions to do IMO.
I have two most important missile skills at lvl4, heavy missiles at lvl4. I fit passive tank at Ferox and have no problems in ANY lvl3 mission. I didn't try bonus level in Angel Extravaganza because I am doing it for standings (need to move to another lvl4 agent) so I don't collect the loot. Use passive shield tank (2xLarge Shield Extenders II and 2xShield Power Relays), named launchers (I am using XRs), painter, 2 hardeners, drones and small beam lasers against drones. It's almost too easy.
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Hrco
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Posted - 2005.07.21 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Addicus Zed
but the worst mission I would say is 'Silence the Informant' That's the mission that chewed my Ferox like bubble gum!! After some time, a buddy did the same mission and blew his Ferox too. So it's not me alone after all, it's the damn mission!! For those of you who haven't encountered 'Silence the Informant' mission, be very VERY careful.
Those that have no prob doing it in a BC...bravo! Coz I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon, plenty of other lvl 3 missions to do IMO.
I did it in Maller and later with more succes in Prophecy.
Thing is , do not be afraid to warp out few times.
When you jump through second gate mark your way out imidiatly and fly toward it. you would be webed by wingman. You web him and kill him, then warp out if you low or kill elithe fighter if possible. so next time you will face 2 commanders and if you cant kill them both , kill one then warp. So, advice is....STEP by step :))
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Okoru
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Posted - 2005.07.22 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: deadmaus
Originally by: Okoru
I used to suicide l3's
Not sure what that means sorry.
warp in, kill as much as i can, warp out, rep, go back in (with the rax). Or, when I had more isk than I knew what to do with... go in kill as much as I can until ship pops. Grab a new ship and repeat. Yea, I'm kinda stupid 
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Calian
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hrco
Originally by: Addicus Zed
but the worst mission I would say is 'Silence the Informant' That's the mission that chewed my Ferox like bubble gum!! After some time, a buddy did the same mission and blew his Ferox too. So it's not me alone after all, it's the damn mission!! For those of you who haven't encountered 'Silence the Informant' mission, be very VERY careful.
Those that have no prob doing it in a BC...bravo! Coz I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon, plenty of other lvl 3 missions to do IMO.
I did it in Maller and later with more succes in Prophecy.
Thing is , do not be afraid to warp out few times.
When you jump through second gate mark your way out imidiatly and fly toward it. you would be webed by wingman. You web him and kill him, then warp out if you low or kill elithe fighter if possible. so next time you will face 2 commanders and if you cant kill them both , kill one then warp. So, advice is....STEP by step :))
Just did this mission tonight with my caracal, must have warped out like 5 times on that second area, though it would have been less if I went after the cruisers first, but I was worried the frigates would scramble me so took them out first even though they were doing very low damage.
Definitely right though, can finish just about any mission if you take the time to keep warping out, it's how I do the black market hub in a caracal too. Just have to have patience with it and make sure you don't get anxious and try and press your luck instead of taking more time and just warping.
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Banirr
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Posted - 2005.11.14 08:58:00 -
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There's no problem on lvl 3 mission with Ferox. I use it with a passive shield tank.
Only 1 warpout on "The spy Stash" but i don't run "Black market Hub" at this time
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Banirr
There's no problem on lvl 3 mission with Ferox.
It really depends on your skills and the fitting. You can lose a Ferox very quick if you are at ~1mio sp and not very experienced in fitting a ship. It's like driving a Ferrari when you got your licence the day before.
Just posting it because a lot of people say Ferox is uber for lvl3. Yes it is, but only if you know what you are doing, have a good setting and enough sp for an effective usage of this ship. You don't insta-win when flying a Ferox (as you do in a cruiser in lvl2).
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Pudoris
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:14:00 -
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if you have good skills and are doing them smallest first largest last then I find the af retribution fx to be increadibly convenient.
Just finished the black market hub, only danger was 2x webber frigs +2x frigs +2x cruisers +2x cruise missile launcher sentries. After the webber are out there is no challenge left. Just dont approach all the time :)
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Sacred Badger
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Posted - 2005.11.14 22:58:00 -
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How in gods name do you do the 2nd part of Spy Stash?
I went after the heavy missile turrets first, and it was less than sucessful.
I'm (was) flying an Ishkur, 3x 125 rails and 4 Hammerheads.
And the usual SB, AB gubbins of course...
help... 
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.11.16 15:40:00 -
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I did my first L3 last night, saving the Damsel in my Caracal, but it was hard work. I usually try to avoid the Ferox since it is so painfully slow, but if the rest of the L3 missions are worse, I will get toasted without it. Is regular L3 success in a Caracal possible, or was I just lucky?
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Banirr
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Posted - 2005.11.16 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: Banirr
There's no problem on lvl 3 mission with Ferox.
It really depends on your skills and the fitting. You can lose a Ferox very quick if you are at ~1mio sp and not very experienced in fitting a ship. It's like driving a Ferrari when you got your licence the day before.
Just posting it because a lot of people say Ferox is uber for lvl3. Yes it is, but only if you know what you are doing, have a good setting and enough sp for an effective usage of this ship. You don't insta-win when flying a Ferox (as you do in a cruiser in lvl2).
It's true but you don't need so much SP, I've only 2,7M SP (1,6M in learning,300KSP in Ingineering,300KSP in missiles) and i run a passive shield tank without any problem
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Manny Tanato
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Posted - 2005.11.16 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pinstripe Giamatti
Is regular L3 success in a Caracal possible, or was I just lucky?
Fraid you were lucky. About half the lvl3's will squash your caracal. You really need to get a battlecruiser or an assult frigate.
Put a T2 after burner of the Ferox, I find it's pretty good with the AB, the low-speed issue is no longer there.
The key to cruising through level 3's in a Ferox is to set it up as a damage sponge. Passive tank with T2 large shield extender and stick an undersized shield booster, run the small booster non-stop. Also make sure you got at least 2 active hardeners. Trick with this is to have the skill to run those mods non-stop. Once you achieve that, you can literally AFK in the middle of a level 3 mission.
Off course, don't AFK in one of the tough level 3 missions like black market hub or spy stash. Other than that, nothing can kill you, not disconnects or lag.
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Maarek Davion
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Posted - 2005.11.16 16:48:00 -
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You can beat all lvl 3 missions with ease except for 1. How? It's all about the fittings. High slots, med 250 railguns, the rest 'limos' or advanced light missiles. Med slots, med shield booster, shield boost amp, cap recharger, and whatever you want (I prefer cap booster and a bunch of booster charges in the cargo bay.). Low slots, All power diagnostics.
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Khengis
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Posted - 2005.11.16 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Khengis on 16/11/2005 19:24:23
I tried to do a L3 Mission in my Cyclone this morning and almost got owned. A random Kill mission with 4 60k rats, 180k rat, and a mixture of 17k and 20k rats. Mobius(sp)?
Went back in with my Wolf and just had to hack away at them from range with 280 II's and speed.
Not real impressed with the Cyclone atm. I'm just under 5mil points and heavy into Combat and those rats were on me instantly. I managed to pop one before I decided it was time to get my 24mil trash can out of the area and bring a real ship in. Not really sure why it went so badly with the Cyclone. Shields went quick even with a Hardner running and two sheild extenders and a booster. My Wolf just tanked them. I might have been taken a bit into armor but the ship is configed to armor tank.
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.11.16 19:58:00 -
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Okay, thanks.
I don't have Shield Upgr 4 yet, so I'll make do with a large T1 extender until I'm trained up. I already put an active EM hardener hardener on there and will try to fit a kinetic, but I don't think I have the energy skills yet to eke out enough cap.
If the accel gates didn't drop me right in the middle of everything, I'd try with the Caracal again, since my missile skills are decent. But even with AB, by the time I run from the warp point to open enough range, my shields are gone and I'm into armor.
Next mission offered is Angel Extravaganza. Hope I don't lose a ship.
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Manny Tanato
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Posted - 2005.11.17 04:29:00 -
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Battlecruisers are prima donna ships in that they do require very good skills to perform to their max. Unlike cruisers, where their minimum and maximum usefulness are quite clear, BCs can be as useless as a cruiser or as powerful as a pocket battleship.
It all depends on the pilot's skills. With good skills, BCs are a joy to fly, and you'll be surprised at the situations that they can overcome and win. However, with weak pilot skills, a BC can be just as weak as a cruiser.
If you are considering piloting a BC, I strongly suggest you hold off on the investment and get the relevent skills up high. I know of too many young players who jump into a BC the moment they qualify, then get themselves in situations where the pilot cannot live up to the potential of the ship. Pity.
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Risandaar
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Posted - 2005.11.17 11:33:00 -
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I am doing level 3 Angel Missions in my Thorax, most of the time teamed up with a maller, but also alone.
Of the big 3 (extravaganza, black market, duo) the only one my agent gave me was the extravaganza. I did it solo the first time, didn't do the bonus stage though.
I didn't have a problem with it, never had to warp out. The only hard fight was a cruiser trio at the final stage, all 3 around 80 - 110k bounty.
My setup is:
5 150mm Rails I
1 10Mn AB I
1 X5 Webber
1 Cap Recharger I
1 Medium Repairer I
3 Hardener (Therm, Kinetic, Explosive for Angels)
1 1600mm Steel Plating I
8 Ogre I
Tactic is simple, i come in and kill everything that aggros me, after that i go to locking range (~55km) and fire a shot with a gun at a rat. It will miss of course but they will aggro you and close in. Most groups i just can kill within the 4100 points of armor i have so i just repair after the fight and move on to the next group. Running the repairer in fight is also possible in bursts to prolong your tanking ability. Most work is done by the drones, i use the guns and the webber if i get swarmed by more then 2 frigs at close range, it helps to get rid of them faster.
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2005.11.17 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Fear
I dont believe there are any scrambler frigs though, so I'm not sure how you lost your ship. Make sure youre aligned, dont just sit there and realize at half structure you need to warp out.
I think it is random whether there is a scrambler or not
and I believe the name of ship was the Impaler.
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Wolf Pershaw
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Posted - 2005.11.17 19:12:00 -
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Scramblers haven't been implemented in the NPC's yet. They will be in the next release.
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Sacred Badger
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Posted - 2005.11.17 20:12:00 -
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Oh yes they have.
I've lost 2 ships to 'non-existant' scramblers in lvl 3 missions...
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Quentin Decker
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Posted - 2005.11.17 21:42:00 -
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Heh, ever since Exodus / deadspace was introduced, level IIIs have seemed to surprise mission runners making the step up from level IIs quite a bit. It used to be that a decently-skilled pilot in a Thorax could easily solo any level III mission (perhaps I should use "any" sparingly - Mordus was always a tough mission in a cruiser), but with deadspace now and the death of the MWD, things have changed alot.
But yeah, Duo of Death... I have a corp buddy that recently started doing level IIIs in his Ferox, and the same mission gave him a real run for his money on his first attempt. Once he got skilled up for hardeners and the likes though, he didn't have much of a problem.
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Veronique Lamonte
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Posted - 2005.11.18 04:13:00 -
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"duo of death" was my first level 3 mssion which quickly turned into "solo of death" with the death being my own.I told my agent "this mission sucks I'm outta here" took the standing hit,went back for what was left of my caracal and made a Ferox.
All the level3's are doable solo in a ferox tanked,and the way i did DoD is to tank the crushers and take out the batteries first with multiple warps (i was under 1 million SP at the time)the "black market hub" was the one that got my ferox because of my own complacency,because i had done it before without being scrambled by the wingmen i now know,doesnt mean to say they wont.i was,and payed dearly.
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Hakzuzu
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Posted - 2005.11.18 06:07:00 -
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Yes, it is a good idea to train up your skills before you try to take on lvl3 missions. The ferox is probably the best bc for them as its tank is very very nice.
It definitely takes some skills to fly however. Shield and missile skills are the most important followed by energy skills.
But as previous posters have stated, the ferox can easily solo every lvl3 mission once you learn the missions, outfit your ship properly, and have the appropriate skills.
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Leeham
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Posted - 2005.11.18 11:48:00 -
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Well I can handle small lv3 missions in my armour tanked Brutix (although I need to retreat at least 3 times)
Anything big like the extrravaganza's I call my mate in his megathron to help.
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2005.11.18 11:54:00 -
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managed to lose enough zealots in lvl4s (bout 1 every 5th mission or so) that i can't afford them anymore now i'm running lvl3s in retribution.
works nice but then i have to say i got assault ships and heavy assault ships both at lvl5
even lvl4s in zealot are kind of ok as long as you don't forget to pay attention all the time. some of the missions get you very close to the edge....
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Ombey
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Posted - 2005.11.18 12:09:00 -
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I have a Cyclone BC, and it's great :)
Find all level 3's reasonably straightforward bar Silence the Informant (damn Mercenary Commanders!!), and Black Market Hub (damn Mercenary Commanders!! Again!)
It's worth getting T2 guns and T2 PDSs on BCs, ASAP. Makes a huge difference to it's effectiveness and your survivability.
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Baron McCormack
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Posted - 2005.11.18 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hrco
I did it in Maller and later with more succes in Prophecy.
Thing is , do not be afraid to warp out few times.
Full ACK, that's how I did it, too, and that's how I made it thu "Duo of Death", where i had to warp out THREE!! times before the first turrent went down. The more enemy you manage to kill, the easier it gets, and once those 2 turrets where gone, the cruisers were no more prob. Some may experience a (for them) better way to do it, but there are as many setups as pilots, so there is probably no "the best way to do it".
But one thing seems always true: If you cannot stand, warp out and try again after cap/armor/shield reloaded
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DanF
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Posted - 2005.11.19 00:47:00 -
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I've just done the Angel Extravaganza and duo of death missions in my cyclone on my own. They seemed fairly straigh forward with no damage to armour or warping in and out.
5x gallium 720's
3x limos heavy launchers
Ab 10
T2 med shield booster
2x sheild hardners
2x PDU
1x RCU
1x T2 gyro
4x med scout drones
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G8torSkull
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Posted - 2005.11.19 01:18:00 -
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i use a passive tank on my ferox and with it have 9233 sheild hps and i dont use a sheild booster but then again with that many hps why do u need one, i dont have the new missile skills trained yet so i cant use t2 launchers just doing crap damage with arb heavys i use 2 small lasers and drones for frigs. even on black market hub i never dropped below 65% sheilds. so anyway ferox for teh win....
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MWEI
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Posted - 2005.11.19 02:26:00 -
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Doing lv3 with ferox is like doing lv4 with raven.
You can solo it, but need good skill and very careful planing.
Now that I do them in raven its a joke, just looking for even better gank setup than 5 BCUs to increase the cash flow.
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ForeverKnight
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Posted - 2005.11.19 07:03:00 -
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I did level 3 missions quite handily with a 1600mm plated thorax.
5x small neutrons with antimatter
1x AB, 1x Cap Recharger 1x Medium Cap Battery (yes it is better than a cap recharger if you have Engineering to level 5, but otherwise it won't fit)
1x 1600mm plate, 1x Medium "Accomodation" Rep, 2x mission specific hardeners, 1x cap power relay
8x Ogres
A little different from the other guy's setup, but here's why: the 5x blasters are mostly there to provide an added punch to kill larger ships very quickly, not having a webber makes it harder to kill smaller ships, but once you get done with the cruiser rats and the slower frigs, there is very little left and you can tank easily.
The only two level 3 missions that gave me trouble are the Spy Stash and Black market hub, because of the high amount of damage that the turrets on the last levels do on both.
Nowadays I just use an Armageddon and level 3's are a joke.
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SlaineMor
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Posted - 2005.11.20 12:16:00 -
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My Experience was the same as Khengis,
The Cyclone seems to be the only BC where people get pwtfned on level 3's... there have been many threads on it, I think after the next patch they are giving the Cyclone its much needed 5th Mid Slot and upping the shield boosting to 7.5% per level.
Much safer to Tankk it in a Wolf but takes far too long! 2.5-3hrs for Angel Ex!!! mainly because I had to keep getting Ammo top-ups! None of the cruisers are a problem, just the damned 30k Webbing Frigs that are more resiliant than the 75; -> 150k Cruisers!
I think the HAC should be the fastest way of getting through all level 3s as the BS big guns will struggle with the frigs...
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Karl Shade
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Posted - 2005.11.20 17:45:00 -
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I find the missile-Ferox to be more than capable of Lv3 missions, the only one I¦ve had to warp out from is BMH and this is at 1.5m sp so it still has a lot of untapped potential.
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.11.21 16:29:00 -
[52]
Can you post your loadout and related skill levels? My shield strength is about half that. I got through Angel Extrav, but it took forever and was work even in the Ferox.
Originally by: G8torSkull
i use a passive tank on my ferox and with it have 9233 sheild hps and i dont use a sheild booster but then again with that many hps why do u need one, i dont have the new missile skills trained yet so i cant use t2 launchers just doing crap damage with arb heavys i use 2 small lasers and drones for frigs. even on black market hub i never dropped below 65% sheilds. so anyway ferox for teh win....
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J Constantine
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Posted - 2005.11.23 11:55:00 -
[53]
I find this to be the funniest setup ever, bit wierd but oh well  . Yeah, yeah, I know bs in lvl 3 is overkill, but it gets them done fast so here it goes
High:
6x 150mm T2 rails w/ Anti
Meds:
1x 100 AB T2
1x X5 Webber (Or anything you like works)
1x Tracking Computer T2 (Gives me a lil more range )
2x Cap Rechargers of choice (I use 2 Eutectics)
Lows:
1x Large "Accom" Reper (or T2 if you wish)
3x Hardners of choice (I use 2 Kin, 1 Therm always )
1x Magnetic Field Stab T2 (Or best named i guess)
2x Cap Relays
Drone bay: Packed to the gills with youre favorite drone type (Shreks or Preators)
With Energy management 4, and Energy systems operation 4, this beast runs for ever. Guns, web, Tracking comp, Rep, Hardners. When finished with all the rats, turn tank off and go pickup the loot with the ab 
Hey it works wonders and kills everything since the small guns can hit all those pesky things, Drones, frigs, cruisers, you name it it's dead. Wonder if it will work as an anti-frig/inty pvp setup 
PS: They call me insane cause I call the domi "A huge ugly frigate"
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Banirr
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Posted - 2005.11.23 12:36:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Pinstripe Giamatti
Can you post your loadout and related skill levels? My shield strength is about half that. I got through Angel Extrav, but it took forever and was work even in the Ferox.
Originally by: G8torSkull
i use a passive tank on my ferox and with it have 9233 sheild hps and i dont use a sheild booster but then again with that many hps why do u need one, i dont have the new missile skills trained yet so i cant use t2 launchers just doing crap damage with arb heavys i use 2 small lasers and drones for frigs. even on black market hub i never dropped below 65% sheilds. so anyway ferox for teh win....
HS: 3*Heavy/2*Assault/2*150mm railgun
MS: 2* Large shield extender T2 / 1* hardener passive/1 * hardener active/ 1¦AB 10MN t2
LS: 1* Sield Power relay / 3* PDU T2
skills :
- Shield management 4
- Shield operation 4
- shield upgrade 4
- tactical shield manipulation 1
with that 9340 shield on my Ferox ;)
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Banirr
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Posted - 2005.11.23 12:37:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Pinstripe Giamatti
Can you post your loadout and related skill levels? My shield strength is about half that. I got through Angel Extrav, but it took forever and was work even in the Ferox.
Originally by: G8torSkull
i use a passive tank on my ferox and with it have 9233 sheild hps and i dont use a sheild booster but then again with that many hps why do u need one, i dont have the new missile skills trained yet so i cant use t2 launchers just doing crap damage with arb heavys i use 2 small lasers and drones for frigs. even on black market hub i never dropped below 65% sheilds. so anyway ferox for teh win....
HS: 3*Heavy/2*Assault/2*150mm railgun
MS: 2* Large shield extender T2 / 1* hardener passive/1 * hardener active/ 1¦AB 10MN t2
LS: 1* Sield Power relay / 3* PDU T2
skills :
- Shield management 4
- Shield operation 4
- shield upgrade 4
- tactical shield manipulation 1
with that 9340 shield on my Ferox ;)
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KamiCrazy
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Posted - 2005.11.23 14:36:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Manny Tanato
Originally by: Pinstripe Giamatti
Is regular L3 success in a Caracal possible, or was I just lucky?
Fraid you were lucky. About half the lvl3's will squash your caracal. You really need to get a battlecruiser or an assult frigate.
This is not true, I do all level 3's in a caracal. Hell I've done some level 4 kill missions in a caracal. While not easy at times its definitely doable.
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