The removal of Ice from high sec will do one of a few things to Eve.

1) The prices of items will go through the roof, you wont buy a Rifter for under 5 million isk. Because ice for the POS's in high sec will cost to much because the null sec alliances will have a strangle hold on it.

2) Industry in high sec will suffer overall as small industry corps shut down and leave the game. (Some people do not wish to play in low sec or null sec.)

3) High sec will become empty as people either leave the game or become null sec mining slaves.

If you wish to kill the markets and industry in New Eden then remove Ice from high sec. And then the game stops being a sandbox.

The removal of Ice from high sec will do one of a few things to Eve.

1) The prices of items will go through the roof, you wont buy a Rifter for under 5 million isk. Because ice for the POS's in high sec will cost to much because the null sec alliances will have a strangle hold on it.

2) Industry in high sec will suffer overall as small industry corps shut down and leave the game. (Some people do not wish to play in low sec or null sec.)

3) High sec will become empty as people either leave the game or become null sec mining slaves.

If you wish to kill the markets and industry in New Eden then remove Ice from high sec. And then the game stops being a sandbox.

Guess what the reactors would be fuelled with ?

As much as I "carebear" these days and run POS's etc. this is not quite true.

The only thing a high-sec POS effectively allows is for you to work on BPO's/BPC's and copies. ALL of which can be done in stations - albeit, waiting 3 months for a slot. This can be easily remedied at the flick of a switch by CCP.

All production on any item that can be done in a highsec POS can also be done in station.

It will mean a rationalization of highsec POS's at worst but will it force 0.0 alliances to mine their own ice and this alone makes them very, very vulnerable. This can only be a good thing.

You Sir seems not gotten the point i wanted to bring up aside from the large impact Hiseciceremoving will have not only on infrastructure, market and economy it also will FORCE....i repeat me agein FORCE technically players to leave hisec to go to either lowsec or 0.0 to get what they need.....please understand there are peoples DOESN'T want to go there at all....they simply decided to stay in hisec cause of beeing saved before the stress low and 0.0 sec activity can cause....stress which if it really gets bad and hard kills every relaxing amount this game can and had for them.

Remember, some peoples are coming home from a stressfull day at work and loggin in to eve to have a bit relaxing activities here and enjoying their stay with some friends they have here as well....if this goes away....those players will go away ( leave ) as well and that Sir....is a promise which will happen if CCP is not finally ligthens up and starts to think a bit themselfes again.

holy **** do you also live in nigeria and have a large quantity of money you need me to help you move in exchange for a 20% cut but first you need a $5,000 tracking fee

Basicly the whole idea of moving people into low sec is flawed with the current alliance pvp only mentallity and politics

At the moment ,how i see it is is actually easier and cheaper for nullsec alliance just to mine the abc ores and exploit moons for moo goo , take what they need for their own use and sell the rest in high sec and buy their low end minerals and ice products there and still end up with a huge profit, which makes sense

It is not that there aren't any opportunities for a ondustrial in nullsec, just the mentallity isn't there to expand a alliance industrial base and to become selfsufficient
What hardcore pvp pilot would want to babysit over a bunch of iceminers while he could do plexes and earn a few 100 millions
Second most ex nullsec dwellers eventually left nullsec because they despise the politics and the drama or got sick and tired being treated as second rat e citizen or ending up as target practice by a alliance that is actually blue to the sov holding alliance they belong or rent from

Alot of people who are into industry or mining i know in high sec really want to have a go in nullsec but sadly like i said before the mentallity and current sov mechanics making this very hard of not impossible

And removing high sec ice will certainly not get more people into null sec

just my thoughts

In a weird way, the Goon campaign is proving that moving ice into null and allowing it to be controlled (like moons) causes prices to skyrocket and access to drop.

It's way too early in the campaign to properly make this argument. We're barely out of the initial price shock.

In a weird way, the Goon campaign is proving that moving ice into null and allowing it to be controlled (like moons) causes prices to skyrocket and access to drop. Why Goons are choosing to make that point is something I don't know, as I'm unsure whether the leadership does or does not want ice to disappear.

It was flagged in the initial announcement (on the gank campaign) as the weakest link in the economy. Proving how fragile it is might bolster the argument to make ice commodities more stable and available - ie, keep it in highsec and maybe expand th number of systems.

I only worry about wormholes if ice were to move to null and be more easily manipulated, as the POS is the core of WH life.

As a WH roamer, though, I like the idea of finding more and more POS that have run out of fuel ;)

everyone, including every ccp employee considering it, knows moving ice to 0.0 would cause prices to increase and access to drop, that would be the point

Currently, hi-sec ice is generating a whole lot of gameplay and tears. As far as I'm concerned, it should stay.