people affected by this

No.

Edit: htfu

Thanks for the extreme thought put into this. Would you care to explain or are those the only 2 words you know how to post.

No.

Edit: htfu

First off I am 100% against any kind of SP reimbursement.

What CCP might be able to provide is a bonus remap after these changes go live so people affected by this can change their skill plan accordingly.

I see three words...

Say you set out your year training before all of the changes were posted by CCP on how the ship skills were going to be changed. After they change the ship prerequisites your neural map might not be be the most efficient. What I am asking is would giving all players a bonus remap during the expansion when all of these skills go live be uncalled for?

Yes, uncalled for as none of the skill attributes for affected prereqs are changing. Charisma will not be required for any ship, I guarantee it.

I see three words...

Yes, uncalled for as none of the skill attributes for affected prereqs are changing. Charisma will not be required for any ship, I guarantee it.

I see three words...

Command ship pre-reqs will require quite a lot more Leadership, ie. charisma training.

GǪso the year and a half between the initial warning about these changes and the point where they will actually be realised wasn't enough?!

Beyond that, what in the changes would in any way be helped by having a remap?

Well, one specialized ship class changing does not mean a wholesale remap is necessary for all in the game. Besides, those leadership points for the warfare links were required before and still will be, so technically nothing attribute wise is changing to get into these ships.

You could announce something 10 years in advance. If its not clearly visible, people still will miss it. Now had it been front page on the launcher for that entire period, you could maybe argue a little bit more. And hell, they didn't go into specifics until a couple months ago, so any prep would have been fortune telling far as I'm aware. Visibility is key in informing people.

Well, one specialized ship class changing does not mean a wholesale remap is necessary for all in the game. Besides, those leadership points for the warfare links were required before and still will be, so technically nothing attribute wise is changing to get into these ships.

I do not need the remap. I am just tired of seeing on GD every day people demanding a SP reimbursement. I think that a bonus remap would be enough for everyone to cover the inconvenience of this. I have had all the correct skills trained up prior to the announced changes. I do not think anyone knew about the other changed that were listed in the most recent dev blog. This was only a suggestion.

I have a carrier pilot who trained up BS V and I think that skill is very useful. Please don't judge me by the memes of others.

GǪand it's not like charisma is GǥrequiredGǥ to get those skills (which you should have anyway if you plan to sit in a CS). It's all of nine days worth of additional training if your attributes aren't precisely in line with the skills. Hardly the end of the world.

You could make it take up your entire screen and blink ******* red and people would still miss it, and get just as butthurt. CCP announced a change in BC skills long ago, only recently did they give you a hard and fast date four months in the future, which is plenty of time to train BC to V, Destroyers to V, and all the other ship skills you need to take maximum benefit from the change, even on a suboptimal plan.

Not disagreeing with you entirely, but you'd greatly reduce the number.

Warfare Link to IV was required.

That's a whole lot less charisma training to fly the ship, than all 4 Warfare skills to V.

Around 8 times less.

First off I am 100% against any kind of SP reimbursement.

What CCP might be able to provide is a bonus remap after these changes go live so people who havent paid attention for over a year can cease whining about it on the forums.

Wait what, how are you training armored, information, siege and skirmish warfare to 5, only 9 days slower than Warfare Link Specialist to IV?

GǪand I feel the need at this point to point out the fact that you will not need those skills to fly command ships. You will need them to inject the Command Ship skill. Unless it was your intent to start training CS the very day after the patch, the impact of this switch GÇö remap or no remap available GÇö is pretty much zero.

Yes, future CS pilots will need to train more Cha-based skills before getting into the ship, but they're going to do that when on a charisma remap anyway, since there are so many other Cha-based skills they want to train before flying those ships.

Now I know that the reason is because of the blurp about "Ship skill training has been further adjusted when necessary to include specialized module requirements." - but the thing is, before these changes, people were free to take a short de-tour into charisma training in order to get the pre-req for command ships. After these changes, that's going to be quite a hefty de-tour into charisma training, that you'll need even if you never intend to fit a gang-link on your command ship.