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DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 76	Posted - 2013.02.13 04:36:00 - [1] - Quote First I'll try to ask my own question, but I wanted to know if people are flying them for anything other then this, as I can't seem to see where else they get used, probably as cost of losing it them being a big factor. * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? I have checked Battleclinic and fits are all over the place, mostly to run L4's, in which honestly, NPC's can't really kill this thing even if you're blindfolded, if you mission specific, as it seems trivial to fit 600+ tank. As far as I can tell the BPC's sell from Gurista LP stores and don't drop that often from spawns ... just seems like a rather weird ship all round, also, since the drone changes, apparently a lot of people have stopped using them. Is anyone still flying these much, other then possibly missions? Maybe some unusual fits?
Orlacc 231	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:03:00 - [2] - Quote Kind of a wuss-mobile if you ask me.....
Grimm Griefer M.I.M.M.S Apocalypse Now. 2	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:19:00 - [3] - Quote I fly one because I think it looks friggen hot. scorpion is to specialised the SNI isn't bad but the Rattlesnake just looks so damn cool. Also heard they are often used as baitships lol
BadAssMcKill Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army 115	Posted - 2013.02.13 06:50:00 - [4] - Quote You can do a Battlesnake which is drones + either torps or heavy neuts in the highs and 2 X-Large ancillary shield boosters Starships were meant to fly~
amurder Hakomairos Fellowship Of Lost Souls Rebel Alliance of New Eden 22	Posted - 2013.02.13 12:15:00 - [5] - Quote I've seen them used a lot for nullsec plexes and anoms due to massive tank and good dps with sentries.
Caitlyn Tufy Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 176	Posted - 2013.02.13 12:39:00 - [6] - Quote DSpite Culhach wrote: * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? No.
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 76	Posted - 2013.02.13 12:54:00 - [7] - Quote Haha. Very interesting. Thanks for that link :)
Songbird 76	Posted - 2013.02.13 13:19:00 - [8] - Quote Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something.
Elizabeth Norn Tax Evasion Haven 0	Posted - 2013.02.13 14:17:00 - [9] - Quote Caitlyn Tufy wrote: DSpite Culhach wrote: * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? No. Damn, that's awesome. Any idea what fit they were using?
Otrebla Utrigas Iberians Iberians. 51	Posted - 2013.02.13 14:29:00 - [10] - Quote Songbird wrote: Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something. p.s. BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha HAMgu with javelins. Kill painting frigs, kill webbing frigs, kill the painting BS and then the sentries. My small booster can withstand the incomming damage with an invul and a exp hardener meanwhile. It took me a while and a few warpouts to figure the best target priority, but after the first time, I had no problem with them and I have never warped out again.

Inkarr Hashur Sine Nobilitatis 179	Posted - 2013.02.13 14:39:00 - [11] - Quote Every time someone mentions a machariel in a thread that isn't about machariels I feel like punching a kitten.
Mire Stoude Antelope with Night Vision Goggles 104	Posted - 2013.02.13 23:19:00 - [12] - Quote I used one last year when in the CFC and they burned through the north. The FC bought it and used it instead of the ship they normally bring. He didn't expect to live through the fight, but he did, so he raffled it off afterwards when we were bored and I won. I kept his fit on it and took it to most Alpha Fleets. It had nearly 300k ehp iirc. It was a horrible Alpha fleet ship, but I always enjoyed that first "Is someone seriously bringing a rattlesnake?" on comms. EDIT: I named it "Rafflesnake"
Nalha Saldana Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 678	Posted - 2013.02.13 23:32:00 - [13] - Quote Dont forget micro jump drive + sentry drones + cruise missiles, should work quite well in pve and avoids drone aggro.
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 76	Posted - 2013.02.13 23:59:00 - [14] - Quote Songbird wrote: Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something. p.s. BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha I did all the training for the new ship changes, and I keep reading that maybe we end up getting a net SP refund? NOt 100% sure, but if we do get raw SP, I was thinking of putting those towards flying turret ships, so aiming that way might not be a bad idea.
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 76	Posted - 2013.02.14 00:00:00 - [15] - Quote Elizabeth Norn wrote: Caitlyn Tufy wrote: DSpite Culhach wrote: * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? No. Damn, that's awesome. Any idea what fit they were using? I might actually ask one of the players. If I get a reply I'll pass it on.
Cage Man 164	Posted - 2013.02.14 00:21:00 - [16] - Quote I still use one, T2 sentries, 3 x DDA, 2 x omni's, 2 x Drone links and an active tank, gives you over 700 dps on wardens. Put a shield RR on the high so you can rep the sentry, that way you still putting out dps. Only switch to light drones when frigs make it through and keep them close. Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa.......
Valea Silpha Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 88	Posted - 2013.02.14 02:44:00 - [17] - Quote DSpite Culhach wrote: * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? They don't actually do as well as you might hope they do for most of that. I couldn't speak to lvl 5s, but they do need to pay attention to triggers in lvl 4s, and use good target discipline in special rooms. They can't just sit and tank whole missions and not break a sweat. They tank well for sure, but they are FAR from invulnerable. They are sweet mission runners and have a big enough tank to run any mission you throw at them, but particularly since the vast majority of damage is drone based they can be pretty slow at getting dps off the field. That means that if you bite off more than you can chew you can just bulldoze the dps down to a safe level. You can fit such that you are better able to apply dps with onmi tracking links, but that reduces your tank significantly. It's a great mission runner, for sure. I use mine for anything involving Sansha where my paladin gets tracking disrupted. Just don't go in thinking you can just randomly shoot at crap and everything will be fine.
CMD Ishikawa Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.14 04:00:00 - [18] - Quote Rattlesnake for me is one of the best looking ships in the game, that is a good reason to fly one, but also is great for missions. Actually I usually end up shooting the crap I should not be shooting and my rattle gets me out of trouble all the time.
Vegine Sphere Foundation 15	Posted - 2013.02.14 05:17:00 - [19] - Quote I happen to know a bit about the rattle used in that pvp video. Below is a sample: [Rattlesnake, LogiSnake] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II X-Large Shield Booster II X-Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I +HG crystal implant I assumed that video was before new drone dmg mods etc were released thus didn't use them. Above fit is gimped a little (lol)by sticking to purely T2. 2 of these feeding each other its cap stable, local shield recovery of 700/s each snake. With a few tackle and support help the duo is quiet fun. resist 61-69-76-86 If you are willing to throw down the money, the numbers get exponentially fun. Below is a ridiculous fit (well, to some. Some of us consider 5-6b pocket change ) [Rattlesnake, LogiSnake] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field Shield Boost Amplifier II Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I + HG crystal implant this one mainly aimed for tank and still rely on tackles. resists 73-74.7-81-84.2. duo feeding off each other its cap stable and.. local shield regen of 1300+ hp/s. in order to break this tank you need about 3300dps minimum. It can also handle a neuter or two as itself also neuts and can free up quiet a bit of cap regen by turning off neut/1 energy transfer on the ship being targeted. there's also a nano tackle fit which is hella fun when you use it to duo or small gang roam. but...I'll keep that off of table for now .:p
Vegine Sphere Foundation 15	Posted - 2013.02.14 06:23:00 - [20] - Quote Vegine wrote: I happen to know a bit about the rattle used in that pvp video. Below is a sample: [Rattlesnake, LogiSnake] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II X-Large Shield Booster II X-Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I +HG crystal implant I assumed that video was before new drone dmg mods etc were released thus didn't use them. Above fit is gimped a little (lol)by sticking to purely T2. 2 of these feeding each other its cap stable, local shield recovery of 700/s each snake. With a few tackle and support help the duo is quiet fun. resist 61-69-76-86 If you are willing to throw down the money, the numbers get exponentially fun. Below is a ridiculous fit (well, to some. Some of us consider 7-8b pocket change ) [Rattlesnake, LogiSnake] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Caldari Navy Co-Processor Caldari Navy Co-Processor Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I + HG crystal implant this one mainly aimed for tank and still rely on tackles. resists80-81-86-88. duo feeding off each other its cap stable and.. local shield regen of 1500+ hp/s. in order to break this tank you need about 7500dps minimum. It can also handle a neuter or two as itself also neuts and can free up quiet a bit of cap regen by turning off neut/1 energy transfer on the ship being targeted. there's also a nano tackle fit which is hella fun when you use it to duo or small gang roam. but...I'll keep that off of table for now .:p

Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2233	Posted - 2013.02.14 09:52:00 - [21] - Quote Inkarr Hashur wrote: Every time someone mentions a machariel in a thread that isn't about machariels I feel like punching a kitten. And tengus... They aren't even that awesome really...
CMD Ishikawa Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.14 16:12:00 - [22] - Quote Rattlesnakes are cheaper now, may be because of the problems with drones now, good times to buy at least one of those
Inkarr Hashur Sine Nobilitatis 185	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:43:00 - [23] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Inkarr Hashur wrote: Every time someone mentions a machariel in a thread that isn't about machariels I feel like punching a kitten. And tengus... They aren't even that awesome really... I suspect tengus were mostly just coat-tailing on the power of the HML.
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:06:00 - [24] - Quote CMD Ishikawa wrote: Rattlesnakes are cheaper now, may be because of the problems with drones now, good times to buy at least one of those I've used on for L4 missions because it was the easiest ship for me to try the new drone AI changes, but I can't see me using it for anything else, at least not with rubbishy skills. I wanted to take it to the last room in AE, but haven't been playing all that much recently, as EvE isn't the most restful game to play when you're constantly in tachycardia episodes. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a Nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships.
Inkarr Hashur Sine Nobilitatis 185	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:43:00 - [25] - Quote CMD Ishikawa wrote: Rattlesnakes are cheaper now, may be because of the problems with drones now, good times to buy at least one of those There's no problems with sentries. Now, combat drones? Yeah they were screwed. Hooray for retribution. edit: holy **** what happened to rattlesnake prices?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 202	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:07:00 - [26] - Quote Inkarr Hashur wrote: CMD Ishikawa wrote: Rattlesnakes are cheaper now, may be because of the problems with drones now, good times to buy at least one of those There's no problems with sentries. Now, combat drones? Yeah they were screwed. Hooray for retribution. edit: holy **** what happened to rattlesnake prices? looks like it went back to what it should have been... last spring someone manipulated it heavily. I'm surprised it took so long to get back down, and hell correcting for the min cost changes it is worth even less now than it was a year ago. although I got lucky when I bought mine someone put it on contracts for 67mil instead of 670mil
Vallista Kenshin. Corcoran State 11	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:43:00 - [27] - Quote I used to live in an area with terrible internet and after losing a few ships to lost connection, I settled on the Rattlesnake. I never lost my snake on a crash, just the drones. That was a valid tradeoff to me, and the reason I chose the Rattlesnake.
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2013.02.19 00:15:00 - [28] - Quote Vallista wrote: I used to live in an area with terrible internet and after losing a few ships to lost connection, I settled on the Rattlesnake. I never lost my snake on a crash, just the drones. That was a valid tradeoff to me, and the reason I chose the Rattlesnake. I got one as well for that. TPG here is very fluid, and some weeks I get a LOT of flakyness, so it's my emergency use ship, otherwise i just use a Raven. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships.
Tung Yoggi SnaiLs aNd FroGs 8	Posted - 2013.02.19 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote Rattlesnake is theoritically awesome at pvp (if you do the whole links+drugs+implants fest), but it attracts too much attention to perform well, that's his problem. The very high buffer coupled to cap-less weapons and twin utility slot are really strong points; plus the resist bonus helps for self-rep efficiency. Missile and drones means you should have no problem switching damage types. Slot layout offers anough room for tackle gear, while a large smartbomb + heavy neut utilies offers life insurance against ec-drones and the possibility to shut down kiting tacklers. Yet, once again, everyone and his dog will want to hit the pi+¦ata, you just have to get ready for the blob.
Screenlag The Caerus Gate 40	Posted - 2013.02.19 16:55:00 - [30] - Quote Vegine wrote: [Rattlesnake, LogiSnake] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Caldari Navy Co-Processor Caldari Navy Co-Processor Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I + HG crystal implant this one mainly aimed for tank and still rely on tackles. resists 80-81-86-88. duo feeding off each other its cap stable and.. local shield regen of 1500+ hp/s. in order to break this tank you need about 7500dps minimum. It can also handle a neuter or two as itself also neuts and can free up quiet a bit of cap regen by turning off neut/1 energy transfer on the ship being targeted. there's also a nano tackle fit which is hella fun when you use it to duo or small gang roam. but...I'll keep that off of table for now .:p 7500 dps or one ecm mod

Screenlag The Caerus Gate 40	Posted - 2013.02.19 16:56:00 - [31] - Quote double post
Kane Alvo Coronis Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.02.20 16:16:00 - [32] - Quote I'm curious about the viability of the Rattlesnake for a newer pilot. Currently, I'm sitting at around 2m SP. I'm very missile focused, but as I'm still pretty new, most of my skills are at 3 or 4. I've only recently started running level 4 missions and have been using a Navy Scorpion. Drones V will finish training today, that should give you an idea of where I'm sitting. With my Navy Scorpion, I'm at about 320 DPS with my skills, including drones. I will be training Drone Interfacing next, for the large DPS boost to drones that comes with it, so that number should greatly improve over the next couple of days. I do okay solo. It takes awhile, but my fit is solid, and the tremendous tank of the SNI helps my lack of DPS. The smaller ships give me the most trouble because I can't apply decent damage with Cruise Missiles. I decline the more difficult missions such as AE and Worlds Collide, because the web/scram frigates would end me. Is the Rattler a bit more forgiving for lower SP pilots, or is it a ship that requires high skills to get anything out of it?
Zan Shiro Alternative Enterprises 110	Posted - 2013.02.20 16:47:00 - [33] - Quote while it obviously works better with t2 drones/sentries...she is a forgiving frame if not tweaked out dps wise. Its tank will forgive many low sp sins lol. You'd have to eft and see if at some point you want the t2 cruise. Its not omfg damage boosts imo. I only have them trained since I was in 0.0 at one point and made the t2 or death people happy and shut up by fitting them. My scorps (only ship I ran these in pvp on) jammed....if we needed the meh dps from a t2 fit, something had gone horribly wrong way beyond my "fail" fit lol.
Aktuh Melota Unimatrix 0.1 0	Posted - 2013.02.20 16:58:00 - [34] - Quote Gonna thread hijack This is what i use High power 4x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 2x Drone Link Augmentor I Medium power 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1x Omnidirectional Tracking Link I 1x X-Large Shield Booster II 2x EM Ward Field II 1x Target Painter II Low power 3x Ballistic Control System II 2x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Drone Damage Amplifier II Rig Slot 3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Charges 824x Mjolnir Cruise Missile Drones 5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hammerhead II 5x Garde II 5x Ogre II Straight copy paste from client. This fit is very old and obviously outdated. But works ok . I 'm open to suggestions though
Warpshade Warped Industries 43	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:16:00 - [35] - Quote From a mission running perspective, on one of my alts I'm having trouble trying to come up with a suitable Fit (suitable meaning Gank). The ship seems super easy to fit, if going full ****** on tank, however I'm trying to put together a fit for full DPS and running into fitting issues. If I start using rigs to boost drone or missile damage i get troubles, and it seems soon as you start trying to mix in a average active tank with Drone and Missile Damage mods, again I start to run into problems. tl;dr I havn't had enough time to really form a full opinion, but from my first glances it just seems way too easy to fit tank, but starts to struggle when attempting full gank.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 1393	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:22:00 - [36] - Quote DSpite Culhach wrote: First I'll try to ask my own question, but I wanted to know if people are flying them for anything other then this, as I can't seem to see where else they get used, probably as cost of losing it them being a big factor. * Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers. * Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy.. * Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers ... Is that it? I have checked Battleclinic and fits are all over the place, mostly to run L4's, in which honestly, NPC's can't really kill this thing even if you're blindfolded, if you mission specific, as it seems trivial to fit 600+ tank. As far as I can tell the BPC's sell from Gurista LP stores and don't drop that often from spawns ... just seems like a rather weird ship all round, also, since the drone changes, apparently a lot of people have stopped using them. Is anyone still flying these much, other then possibly missions? Maybe some unusual fits? I fly a Rattlesnake in Null Sec. In almost every other space I would dual box a Tengu and Machariel for anomalies and exploration. The set up was a little weak in Rogue Drone and Sansha space, but rocks in Serpentis, Gurista and Angle Space. But the set up sucked massive donkey balls in Blood Raider space. At 1st I put my Tengu Alt in a Navy Raven. It was ok, but not spectacular. Then one day I had to use the Tengu/Raven alt somewhere else to help with some corp stuff, but i still wanted to make some isk so i fired up another alt and fit a Rattlesnake I had forgotten i owned (i'd left it in a station when the old alliance I was in left that space). Machariel + Rattlesnake with Omnidirectional tracking links, drone damage mods and Garde 2s = massive slaughter of the hated Blood Raiders lol. I was in straight "why didn't i think of this before" land lol. And the rattlesnakes passive tank means I laugh wen neuted.
Cage Man 166	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:39:00 - [37] - Quote Aktuh Melota wrote: Gonna thread hijack This is what i use High power 4x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 2x Drone Link Augmentor I Medium power 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1x Omnidirectional Tracking Link I 1x X-Large Shield Booster II 2x EM Ward Field II 1x Target Painter II Low power 3x Ballistic Control System II 2x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Drone Damage Amplifier II Rig Slot 3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Charges 824x Mjolnir Cruise Missile Drones 5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hammerhead II 5x Garde II 5x Ogre II Straight copy paste from client. This fit is very old and obviously outdated. But works ok . I 'm open to suggestions though I would suggest fitting more for its bonuses which really is drones. I fit 3 x drone damage amps, not sure why you have the PDS's, and 2 x omni's. If you need the PDS for fitting I would say drop 2 of the BCS for drone damage as you will get a better dps increase. Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa.......
Zan Shiro Alternative Enterprises 110	Posted - 2013.02.21 01:19:00 - [38] - Quote Aktuh Melota wrote: This fit is very old and obviously outdated. But works ok . I 'm open to suggestions though Assuminng you have the shield comps trained to at least 4 and the the caldari bs 4 you could help your cap out a bit by splurging on gist B resist amps. 4'd out they are equivalent (if not slightly igher) resists than your active t2 specific hardeners. But I personally like my passive resists....you coudl throw on the gist active resists for some cap savings as well. I'd do this to get some cap back to pull a CCC for a sentry augment rig. Only the em's are generally pricey I have found. And since rattler low on the gank radar even if scannered the 50/50 chance of the expensive gist fitting dropping is not going to cover the cost of the gank to bring her down most times. Do you need the sebo? Even before AI aggro switching unless you were really motivated to train e-war drones 5 to get every inch of drone range you wanted I found the natural lock range worked nice with the mix of cruise and drone range if you wanted to let them go far. Some other mod was usually a better bet. Now with drone aggro switch generally its best to keep those drones closer to home. Just my take on this anyway. And like above do moar drone augment. BCU not helping your cruise much imo.
Aktuh Melota Unimatrix 0.1 0	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:47:00 - [39] - Quote Thanks for the tips, so new fit [Rattlesnake, PVE] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Shield Booster II Target Painter II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 I m guessing this is better since EFT says 946 DPS (with gardeII) !!!!
DSpite Culhach Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 79	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:39:00 - [40] - Quote Kane Alvo wrote: I'm curious about the viability of the Rattlesnake for a newer pilot. Currently, I'm sitting at around 2m SP. I'm very missile focused, but as I'm still pretty new, most of my skills are at 3 or 4. I've only recently started running level 4 missions and have been using a Navy Scorpion. Drones V will finish training today, that should give you an idea of where I'm sitting. With my Navy Scorpion, I'm at about 320 DPS with my skills, including drones. I will be training Drone Interfacing next, for the large DPS boost to drones that comes with it, so that number should greatly improve over the next couple of days. I do okay solo. It takes awhile, but my fit is solid, and the tremendous tank of the SNI helps my lack of DPS. The smaller ships give me the most trouble because I can't apply decent damage with Cruise Missiles. I decline the more difficult missions such as AE and Worlds Collide, because the web/scram frigates would end me. Is the Rattler a bit more forgiving for lower SP pilots, or is it a ship that requires high skills to get anything out of it? My limited experience so far: * You can run L4's with a Drake tank and it's rather bad damage, VERY slowly. In the Rattler I can fit 800 (NPC) instead of a Drake 500 without even trying, and It's rather easy to get much better dps then Drake missiles with half decent sentry skills, I think I was doing 450+ and I was only playing around with the new AI with T1 sentries and skills on 4. * I put on an 800 omni and full aggroed last room in Dread Pirate Scarlet, shields got to 55% and held there - I did kill the scram frigs, I don't have a deathwish :) - and pocket 3 in World Collide barely registers, as even a Drake with Angel tank at 550 can hover on not breaking. * Just based on EFT - After this post I've decided to to up some drone skills. Currently my T1 Gards just do over 500, and with Drone Interfacing V and T2's that becomes around 650, and apparently with "all V's" T2 Gards alone are meant to top out at 750, and that's with 3xT2 damage amps. Up to 880 DPS with T1 Cruise Missiles [Unfort is counting ALL missiles skills on V as well] I think it's probably the most lazy arsed way to run missions possible, but until such a time that missions are made interesting (ie some RANDOM stuff actually happens), it seems a standard way to make basic income. I normally just fly a damn Raven, but after the AI changes I wanted to see what all the fuss was all about: It feels like sniping children in a kindergaten, difference now is that sometimes they throw toys at the sentries and you have to hide them for a few seconds while the NPC goldfish-like memory kicks in. It feels really really wrong flying one in missions. AS you have to stay with the sentries a lot, it slows getting gate to gate, that's about the worse thing really. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships.

max scrotes Aurora Security Transstellar Operations 3	Posted - 2013.02.21 11:27:00 - [41] - Quote Been afk from the game for over a year but started playing again recently. Had one of these in my hangar so thought i would try it out with the new micro jump drive. Jump out to +100km's drop sentries and watch everything pop. Here is the setup i have been using: [Rattlesnake, New Setup 1] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large Micro Jump Drive Large Shield Extender II Thermic Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Target Painter II Sensor Booster II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Warden II x5 Garde II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Vespa II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet II x5 not an epic tank but with the micro jump drive, you don't need one.
Skorpynekomimi 456	Posted - 2013.02.21 11:45:00 - [42] - Quote DSpite Culhach wrote: Songbird wrote: Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something. p.s. BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha I did all the training for the new ship changes, and I keep reading that maybe we end up getting a net SP refund? NOt 100% sure, but if we do get raw SP, I was thinking of putting those towards flying turret ships, so aiming that way might not be a bad idea. You do not get bonus SP. You just get the SP automatically sunk into the racial battlecruiser and destroyer skills, according to how many levels of the generic skill you have.
DHB WildCat Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 178	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:54:00 - [43] - Quote I solo pvp with mine all the time. Awesome ship if you man up and brawl.


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