For you economy means "only lazy people can earn money".

In other words (in EVE):
Economy: ganker gets profit
Non-economy: miner gets profit

Are you RPing Minmatar here?

Fun fact. My arbi with a 1600 plate has less tank than an untanked procurer. It also barely out tanks an untanked mack which now has a bigger base EHP than the heavy assault ships.

Textbook example of Dunning - Kruger effect in action.

Don't make excuses for it, just accept it.

Whatever people think about ganking, its an active process. Gankers are actually 'playing' the game. Gankers need to know exactly how the game works - how to deal with Concord, how to assess a target, how to compromise those fits, how to work as a team. On top of handling logistics and 'white knights'. All at our expense in terms of extra accounts, ISK and effort.

Catalysts and Tornados weren't designed for gankers. Orca's weren't designed for ninjas. But we MADE them work, and when CCP discovered it, they nerfed them.

why every mining op doesn't include a scimmy and a falcon/rook is beyond me...

Falcon is a bad ship for anything like that.

Mostly because you have massive targeting delay after decloaking = gank is already over before Falcon gets target lock.

Rook? What? You want to shoot gankers? Try 800mm Nado instead = even max fitted Catalyst goes down with two volleys of RF Fusion L.

Falcon is a bad ship for anything like that.

Mostly because you have massive targeting delay after decloaking = gank is already over before Falcon gets target lock.

Rook? What? You want to shoot gankers? Try 800mm Nado instead = even max fitted Catalyst goes down with two volleys of RF Fusion L.

Jorma Morkiss in "sensible post in a suicide ganking thread" sensation!

It won't last.

It won't last.

Why is everything in GD always devolving about miners vs nullsec players?

It always goes like this:

Player 1:
Ha ha I'm a high sec player and like them potatoes.

Player 2:
AARRRRGH Those filthy gardeners can get many potatoes without risking their nuts, it's not fair for us mighty nullsec.

Player 3:
Why do you care about potatoes when you get infinite carrots because of your blue donut?

etc...

not a ganker here but let me try.
-how to deal with CONCORD - shoot and wait until it kills you? (oh, i forgot about spawning CONCORD somewhere far away... yes, that was great tactics :hands down:)
-how to assess a target - setup your overview to show mining barges/exumers?
-how to compromise those fits - open EFT, enter results of ship scanner, press "ALL V" and see where lowest EHP is? Yes, need to agree: choosing right Catalyst fit and ammo is complex task....
-how to work as a team: neutral cloaked scouts, fleet warp and broadcasting target?
-handling logistics: loading "clean" Orca in trade hub, dropping ship from "clean" Orca, boarding it with ganking alt and warp to target?
Yea, need to agree: all of it sounds like rocket science.....

why every mining op doesn't include a scimmy and a falcon/rook is beyond me...

because they aren't mining?
bit of a give away.. MINING op.

But it is a very good way to test how smart or stupid ganker (yes, they work solo, no team spirit) actually is.

Though I have yet to see successful anti-gank. They are usually too smart or underestimate capabilities of their ships.

the successful anti gank is called the retriever. i see them everywhere.

let's not be silly.
ganking happens, that's a fact.

the reality though, is what's more inconvenient. losing isk because you're mining less stuff because you're flying something suboptimal for mining? or losing isk because you're replacing disposable throw away ships?

now unless some one is literally stalking you and blowing you up every time you undock, the latter is less of an inconvenience, generally.

Your right! When someone gets ganked they should loose the SP's required to fly that ship.

My impression was that worrying too much about tanking in hi-sec was pointless... mostly because if someone plans to get you in hi-sec, they'll find a way.

Any suggestions for a good tanked Mack, then?

Exhumer ganks are at a record low.

The final step though, for me at least, is a full flight of Vespa EC-600s. While they only have 1.5 of ECM (and can't be boosted past that, sadly), your Catalyst ganker only has a sensor strength of 11. While each drone only has about a 12% chance of jamming, with five up them you've got about a 60% of jamming them outright, which lowers their DPS to zero and turns them into Hors d'CONCORD (the jam will last longer than it takes for CONCORD to Zeus them out of existence).

not a ganker here but let me try.
-how to deal with CONCORD - shoot and wait until it kills you? (oh, i forgot about spawning CONCORD somewhere far away... yes, that was great tactics :hands down:)
-how to assess a target - setup your overview to show mining barges/exumers?
-how to compromise those fits - open EFT, enter results of ship scanner, press "ALL V" and see where lowest EHP is? Yes, need to agree: choosing right Catalyst fit and ammo is complex task....
-how to work as a team: neutral cloaked scouts, fleet warp and broadcasting target?
-handling logistics: loading "clean" Orca in trade hub, dropping ship from "clean" Orca, boarding it with ganking alt and warp to target?
Yea, need to agree: all of it sounds like rocket science.....