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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:32:49
I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....
The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.
What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordanary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.
P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc.
(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:34:00 -
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RIAA is evil
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:38:00 -
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If it gets to the point where we can't use commercial music in EVE videos, I will personally sing for a soundtrack to every video made. __________________
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:40:00 -
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Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.
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Ander
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:36:35
I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....
The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.
What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordinary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.
P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc.
(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films
I'm sorry to have to enlighten you.. but Iceland is not a state in the United States of RIAA^H^H^H^HAmerica.
It's a small island country in the northern sea. As far as I know, the DMCA isn't valid in Europe.
Of course, there'll be other means of pusshing copyright legislation on people who make the movies. But I still want to clear this little misunderstanding about Iceland being a state in America.. *cough*
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:42:00 -
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Actually all countries have RIAA clones who see RIAA as the ³ber jerks.
So no - wont help unless it's proven by court that they have no case.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:43:00 -
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that...is complete *******s.......
My vids and random stuff
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.
Canada 4tw ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Actually all countries have RIAA clones who see RIAA as the ³ber jerks.
So no - wont help unless it's proven by court that they have no case.
Argh, someone war dec RIAA ________________________________________________________
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26
I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.
I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.
The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright Żnfringements.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49 That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!
Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are. __________________
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26
I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.
I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.
The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright Żnfringements.
there is one in iceland
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:50:00 -
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Idiots, Idiots, Idiots.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: pardux
Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26
I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.
I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.
The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright Żnfringements.
there is one in iceland
heheheh
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DJBoo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:53:00 -
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America = capitalist **** regime = Caldari/Gallente mix :)
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Risiru
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Risiru on 27/07/2005 21:53:08
Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.
yea we pwn
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OleMissFoo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.
dont blame americans... it's not our fault
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Risiru Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.
I want a royalty check, damnit!!! -
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:23:00 -
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Retarded ------------------
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joefishy
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:27:00 -
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******* big corparate ****s trying to scam little ppl , id do what ikvar does if it comes to that and sing to every ******* moovie and just change the wrods lol so the song isn the same as the origanal lol w00t
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Turix
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Posted - 2005.07.27 22:44:00 -
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RIAA and MPAA are corprate ass holes
Greedy ****s
They dont care bout the aritists for more than they need to make money.
There pushing the law as far as they can to the point of fraud.
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KrogothZero
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Posted - 2005.07.27 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49 That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!
Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.
static-213-115-157-54.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se = eve files so sweden :) which reminds me of the pirate bayfunny stuff.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.27 23:49:00 -
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TPB doesn't host data only torrent files and as such is not in violation of swedish law.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:20:00 -
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How can these bosses be so horrible and bored in their pointless company's existance, as to actually sue people for using music in videos people record of their games to show their friends. ------------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/07/2005 03:00:00 Reason enough to promote the downlaoding of music methinks.
Edit: http://static.thepiratebay.org/ea_response.txt
Quote: Oh wait, just kidding. We haven't, since the site in question is fully legal. Unlike certain other countries, such as the one you're in, we have sane copyright laws here. But we also have polar bears roaming the streets and attacking people :-(.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.07.28 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Risiru Edited by: Risiru on 27/07/2005 21:53:08
Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.
Nightwish 4tw. I want them to produce music for eve. I rekon it would rock.
I heard about them before eve. I was going to make a video with nightwish music until i watched everyone elses with nightwish music :(
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Serdarxxx
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Posted - 2005.07.28 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:36:35
I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....
The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.
What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordinary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.
oh my god i make a night mare come true. BoB/5 - [G] vs. RIAA
P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc.
(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films
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Chribba
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Posted - 2005.07.28 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: KrogothZero
Originally by: Ikvar Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49 That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!
Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.
static-213-115-157-54.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se = eve files so sweden :) which reminds me of the pirate bayfunny stuff.
Yup Sweden, however I have good relations to the Swedish equivalence of RIAA (called IFPI) so I would most likely get to know from them first, but I seriously doubt that they will bother unless you start using Swedish artists, so more likely that RIAA talks to me or my ISP if so.
But I guess we will see, I will keep you updated on the matter if I find out anything worth telling.
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Henka
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Posted - 2005.07.28 08:48:00 -
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the entire thing is just foney, the letter they got from RIAA was (by a offical on RIAA) fake.
Riaa never closed them down.
Love internet and all the rumors, here is a quote:
Quote: "RIAA Director of Communications Jenni Engebretsen sez, "The RIAA has not initiated any communication or legal action against RPG Films. It appears as though someone may have found and copied an old RIAA notice and filled it in with RPG Film web site information -- regardless, the link included in this posting is not an authentic RIAA notice."
And here is even the link: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/27/riaa_we_didnt_take_d.html
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.28 12:55:00 -
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As long as you don't make money with the movies, it shouldn't be touchable by law or am I wrong?
Glad I live in the EU.
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Henka
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:13:00 -
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Well, its hard to say. They dont like people downloading music (mp3's), so why would they like that we download the same mp3 but in a "video", essentialy making it a MUSIC VIDEO.
Oh well, I dont know.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool As long as you don't make money with the movies, it shouldn't be touchable by law or am I wrong?
Glad I live in the EU.
correct
sine we pay GEMA (even buying CD writables and CD-Burners we pay) we are allowed to use music in private. That includes making hobby films I think. Since were even allowed to copy music and giving it to friends (as long as you dont hack the copy-protection) thy can hardly touch your ass here.
so basicly, hurray for europe, we can use music here legally (and tbh, no judge will care about this)
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Smagd
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:51:00 -
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Question, has there EVER been an EVE movie with an original EVE soundtrack? Some of the new combat tunes are quiet catchy. Just my opinion and while everybody's always going wild over EVE graphics quality, let's please not forget that whereever it's rated, the EVE sounds rate pretty high, too - I assume that includes the music!
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Smagd
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:56:00 -
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Oh and one more note: That guy who said the Vanguard video got him to buy the soundtrack: Me, too. I bet there's quite a few more. Too bad the other really GOOD stuff in that album is starting from 07:00 in the last track, now I really feel tempted to MP3 just that part cause the first 6 minutes are just about everything tossed together and THAT 7 minute bit is nowhere else.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.07.28 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Nira Li on 28/07/2005 17:13:07
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/07/2005 03:00:00 Reason enough to promote the downlaoding of music methinks.
Edit: http://static.thepiratebay.org/ea_response.txt
Quote: Oh wait, just kidding. We haven't, since the site in question is fully legal. Unlike certain other countries, such as the one you're in, we have sane copyright laws here. But we also have polar bears roaming the streets and attacking people :-(.
Quote: We are well aware of the fact that The Pirate Bay falls outside the scope of the DMCA - after all, the DMCA is a US-specific legislation, and TPB is hosted in the land of vikings, reindeers, Aurora Borealis and cute blonde girls.
btw I always use music form albums I have bought legaly when making vids
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: KrogothZero
Originally by: Ikvar Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49 That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!
Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.
static-213-115-157-54.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se = eve files so sweden :) which reminds me of the pirate bayfunny stuff.
these are amazing
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Taraniis
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Posted - 2005.07.28 22:20:00 -
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Fear not, the RIAA does not operate in the EU, we still enjoy p2p file sharing and the such like so all is good. Some say its a hoax, if so then lets all go back to playing space ships etc. If its not, simply put a list of the songs used in the video on the end credits, this gives the people a free advert basically and also covers your arse because you have given the artist credit for their music.
Plagarism is illegal, but its not stolen or copied if you give a name
Aaaah, the joys of living in Europe...
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Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.07.29 02:46:00 -
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That's *** and Ander has a cool sig.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:03:00 -
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So for those of us unlucky enough to live in the US, what does this mean for us? I here the EU people talking about how it wont matter for them to much, but not many have mentioned the US.
Regarding the EVE-Files site: we can upload our movies (with mainstream music in them) to its servers right? Just don't want to be getting anybody in trouble.
Is there anybody who can offer real legal advice about all this? Like if we give the artist credit, can we use their song? Is this RIAA thing real? If it is, do we need to worry about it? etc etc etc..
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:26:00 -
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Its retarded!!
The only thing these movies do is to benefit the artists (aswell as entertain us).
If the corporate jerks only could get this into their thick heads everything would be just fine.
I even let Leafo put our music in one of his videos just beacuse its a free comercial, hell, we mabey even sold 1 or 2 albums cus of that.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2005.07.29 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Niaski Zalani Regarding the EVE-Files site: we can upload our movies (with mainstream music in them) to its servers right? Just don't want to be getting anybody in trouble.
I'm fine with that, no mp3's tho since it's the infringing file itself, I have no problems with music in movies.
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2005.07.29 14:23:00 -
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Zarks
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:00:00 -
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Most countries copyright laws only apply in the case you earn money from playing the copyrighted music in public. Such as supermarkets or dance clubs.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:57:00 -
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As someone living in the UK (and i have no idea about our copyright laws) would there be any cause for worry just for uploading something to eve-files? ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider As someone living in the UK (and i have no idea about our copyright laws) would there be any cause for worry just for uploading something to eve-files?
why should you worry? Think US laws also wont work in UK
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