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Could CCP please consider a change in cloaking mechanisms to reduce AFK cloaking.

I have no issues with people being able to be cloaked / grief people while they are active in game. But AFK cloaking for 23.5 hours per days seems to be the only risk free activity in eve. I hear constantly that even high sec is not to be considered safe only safer so find it difficult to understand which this particular activity is completely risk free.

If cloaking were changed so that we had to manually reactivate the cloak ever 30 minutes or even every hour it would at least give some risk. I accept that everytime i undock with a cloaky in system i might get hot dropped why should there be absolutely no risk 23.5 hours per day for someone to AFK grief.

Notes: You will be immobile for 30 seconds after firing this weapon. You will be unable to activate your jump drive or cloaking device for ten minutes after firing this weapon.

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Could CCP please consider a change in docking mechanisms to reduce AFK docking.

I have no issues with people being able to be docked / hide from people while they are active in game. But AFK docking for 23.5 hours per days seems to be the only risk free activity in eve. I hear constantly that even high sec is not to be considered safe only safer so find it difficult to understand which this particular activity is completely risk free.

If docking were changed so that we had to manually redock ever 30 minutes or even every hour it would at least give some risk. I accept that everytime i undock i might get hot dropped, but why should there be absolutely no risk 23.5 hours per day for someone like me to AFK hide?

and yet neither of you have given a reason why any change is needed.

So if we are happy with risk free activity in low sec / null sec why do people keep critizing people in high sec when they complaining about being ganked. Surely low risk fits with the ethos of game rather than no risk???

I talk of null sec spying.

Actually you posted ideas that nerfs cloaking.

Yes in Null Sec where you would expect someone to be able to have full control over their own system. There needs to be a counter, with my idea it would be a massivly expensive counter, which would take time and effort, and be a risk to the titan also. Would limit the ships use also, to being one niche.

The mechanics of eve without any local would change massivly, would be interesting to see how it turns out.

People would be using directional scan like its a click for **** button.

Yes in Null Sec where you would expect someone to be able to have full control over their own system. There needs to be a counter, with my idea it would be a massivly expensive counter, which would take time and effort, and be a risk to the titan also. Would limit the ships use also, to being one niche.

A counter to what exactly? A counter to your own cowardice? A counter to someone who isn't actually doing anything to anyone?

Why, exactly, is it a bad thing for me to be able to cloak up in your system and go afk, but a good thing for you to be able to dock or POS up and go afk? We're both as invulnerable as the other, and we both have the same effect on eachother's gameplay, IE we're a name in local that you can't find. That's it. Neither of us can do anything to the other without losing our invulnerability.

What you talking about lol? I just drop a super cap fleet on that pos and take it down, then kill you. how do i uncloak you and kill you?

Actually you put the pos into reinforced and wait how ever long the stront lasts. In other words, safe until DT if setup correctly.

Ok and then I can kill you right? That is a counter. There is no counter for the cloak.

Well if I warp off after you've put it into reinforced then no and no one with any sense logs off in a pos in case it does get zapped while you are away. I'm not sure what argument you think you have here.

Oh and cloaks do have a counter and they also have massive drawbacks when activated.

You're getting off topic to what im saying, this is directed to safe spot afk cloaking and spying when needed.

People use HICS for a reason. There is a counter, there is a counter to all of what your saying, please tell me the counter for finding someone afk, in a random safe spot cloaked.

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Could CCP please consider a change in cloaking mechanisms to reduce AFK cloaking.

I have no issues with people being able to be cloaked / grief people while they are active in game. But AFK cloaking for 23.5 hours per days seems to be the only risk free activity in eve.

If cloaking were changed so that we had to manually reactivate the cloak ever 30 minutes or even every hour it would at least give some risk. I accept that everytime i undock with a cloaky in system i might get hot dropped why should there be absolutely no risk 23.5 hours per day for someone to AFK grief.

Yes in Null Sec where you would expect someone to be able to have full control over their own system.

You decide you could kill me on a whim inside a pos shield, sorry you got it wrong and went off topic. A hic is not a counter to me sitting safe inside a pos shield, again what argument do you think you have here?

Why should you need to find someone AFK in a safe spot? The fact you already know he's in the system, is a massive intel advantage.

If you have not noticed eve is based on counters upon counters, it is one of the reasons it is so interesting.

exactly, this is why people sit afk in some systems, for diminishing the information intel is giving away for your advantage. There is no other counter against local.

Ok your ability to try and bring up every obvious reason is baffling.

First I was answering Danikas message on the comparison to POS and afk cloak counters, i'm sorry if you felt you were a part of that.

The HIC was in response to you saying there was no counter to someone sitting save in a POS warping away from being in the POS, just showing you there was a counter.

Because it stops you performing strategic operations. The unknown gives you a massive tactical advantage, Internal spys and scouting is how it should be leaked. Much like in modern warfare, you countinue to develop counters to everything which gives others an advantage over you.

If you have not noticed eve is based on counters upon counters, it is one of the reasons it is so interesting.

What you talking about lol? I just remove anti-cyno, and then drop a super cap fleet on that pos and take it down, then kill you. how do i uncloak you and kill you?

So little faith in POS bashing :)

Nah, it's more of an understanding of game mechanics tbh.

Just lol, your thought of its as impossible to take down a POS as it is to find a cloaked frig in billions M^3 space. But ofc you will know so much better than me that there is no counter to POS', just as random SP cloaked frigs.