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rodyas
tie fighters inc
1058
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Posted - 2013.03.05 05:59:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ok well what I would expect from a "expert masterful business", compared to CCP I will not go into as I think the forum server would explode. But what your saying is that first they got into trouble with the Norwegians for being a gambling site and now your saying we need to contact the UN for electoral assistance as CCP is illegally dumping votes and contaminating the political wilderness. So now we just need a civil rights CSM candidate 
Well most people would say all a business does is contaminate the political wilderness. Or just spend lots of money for certain candidates.
Besides a lot of people have negative views of great companies. (Talking about negative views towards companies, you still haven't given me that job I wanted and you semi promised me.)
I mostly mean you want political improvements from a company really. Its kind of a strange notion.
CCP isn't really doing a bad job, but it is a business trying to wade into politics, so expect bumby roads and such. Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

rodyas
tie fighters inc
1058
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Posted - 2013.03.05 06:04:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:By the way, do you know wether there are any plans to provide candidate insight for the preliminary election? Like a single article explaining who are the candidates, what do they stand for and why should we help them pass the threshold? I know CCP intends to do more, but I don't know if they will do this. But it's a decent idea and I will make sure that Xhagen and Dolan are pointed to your post. Make sure to point CCP Xhagen and Dolan to my post as well.
More decent ideas Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1737
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Posted - 2013.03.05 06:48:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ok well what I would expect from a "expert masterful business", compared to CCP I will not go into as I think the forum server would explode. But what your saying is that first they got into trouble with the Norwegians for being a gambling site and now your saying we need to contact the UN for electoral assistance as CCP is illegally dumping votes and contaminating the political wilderness. So now we just need a civil rights CSM candidate  Well most people would say all a business does is contaminate the political wilderness. Or just spend lots of money for certain candidates. Besides a lot of people have negative views of great companies. (Talking about negative views towards companies, you still haven't given me that job I wanted and you semi promised me.) I mostly mean you want political improvements from a company really. Its kind of a strange notion. CCP isn't really doing a bad job, but it is a business trying to wade into politics, so expect bumby roads and such. What can I say
Sorry no vacancies 
But yeah they really did put the cart before the horse on this one. I think it more came down to the quantifiable, they knew they could write something and bring it into being but they could not know how educating the voters would go.
So we now have a more complex voting system likely to drive voters away 
And of course the death of the player elected council
But I suppose on the bright side it is now the player elected beta testers EvE players have no voice. Just don't bother voting for the CSM, really its not worth the energy.
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rodyas
tie fighters inc
1058
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Posted - 2013.03.05 09:09:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:What can I say Sorry no vacancies  But yeah they really did put the cart before the horse on this one. I think it more came down to the quantifiable, they knew they could write something and bring it into being but they could not know how educating the voters would go. So we now have a more complex voting system likely to drive voters away  And of course the death of the player elected council  But I suppose on the bright side it is now the player elected beta testers 
Yeah, probably right on the quantifiable. On the other aspects to the game, seems they focus on the quantifiable as well.
Which is kind of business as well, but it seems your more interested in hostile takeovers or biting off a lot as well as finishing the job, aspect of business. (Perhaps it is best for me to wait, before I get hired by you, probably be fired pretty fast, with your business motto.)
I think there are some aspects that I wish CCP would bite it all off, as you say they should. Never really thought the CSM election really needed a huge overhaul, or biting off and finishing the job.
Besides it could be hard to educate the player base. If one plays EVE but doesn't interact, thus never knowing of the CSM. Most players use ganking to bring awareness to them, which could be too harsh. CCP being a business could use mass indoctrination. (Which I could make it half way through, so its tempting.) But a lot of players hated, Trebor's mass indoctrination so maybe not so wise for CCP to go that way.
But anyhows, are you really up to teaching EVE players? You should go read all the ship balancing threads and what not. To see what you are getting yourself into. You are gonna need all the employees you can find to get that job done. I.E. Hire me :) Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1737
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:43:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote:What can I say Sorry no vacancies  But yeah they really did put the cart before the horse on this one. I think it more came down to the quantifiable, they knew they could write something and bring it into being but they could not know how educating the voters would go. So we now have a more complex voting system likely to drive voters away  And of course the death of the player elected council  But I suppose on the bright side it is now the player elected beta testers  Yeah, probably right on the quantifiable. On the other aspects to the game, seems they focus on the quantifiable as well. Which is kind of business as well, but it seems your more interested in hostile takeovers or biting off a lot as well as finishing the job, aspect of business. (Perhaps it is best for me to wait, before I get hired by you, probably be fired pretty fast, with your business motto.) I think there are some aspects that I wish CCP would bite it all off, as you say they should. Never really thought the CSM election really needed a huge overhaul, or biting off and finishing the job. Besides it could be hard to educate the player base. If one plays EVE but doesn't interact, thus never knowing of the CSM. Most players use ganking to bring awareness to them, which could be too harsh. CCP being a business could use mass indoctrination. (Which I could make it half way through, so its tempting.) But a lot of players hated, Trebor's mass indoctrination so maybe not so wise for CCP to go that way. But anyhows, are you really up to teaching EVE players? You should go read all the ship balancing threads and what not. To see what you are getting yourself into. You are gonna need all the employees you can find to get that job done. I.E. Hire me :) Well after the last few CSMs player education would be harder and now with the new voting system all I have to say is
Good luck with that CCP
They have really made it too much like hard work and as I myself am looking for a new job soon, for private industry requires you to work....I will be trying to join the public sector So I think I have become allergic to work. EvE players have no voice. Just don't bother voting for the CSM, really its not worth the energy.
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rodyas
tie fighters inc
1060
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Posted - 2013.03.06 06:27:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote:What can I say Sorry no vacancies  But yeah they really did put the cart before the horse on this one. I think it more came down to the quantifiable, they knew they could write something and bring it into being but they could not know how educating the voters would go. So we now have a more complex voting system likely to drive voters away  And of course the death of the player elected council  But I suppose on the bright side it is now the player elected beta testers  Yeah, probably right on the quantifiable. On the other aspects to the game, seems they focus on the quantifiable as well. Which is kind of business as well, but it seems your more interested in hostile takeovers or biting off a lot as well as finishing the job, aspect of business. (Perhaps it is best for me to wait, before I get hired by you, probably be fired pretty fast, with your business motto.) I think there are some aspects that I wish CCP would bite it all off, as you say they should. Never really thought the CSM election really needed a huge overhaul, or biting off and finishing the job. Besides it could be hard to educate the player base. If one plays EVE but doesn't interact, thus never knowing of the CSM. Most players use ganking to bring awareness to them, which could be too harsh. CCP being a business could use mass indoctrination. (Which I could make it half way through, so its tempting.) But a lot of players hated, Trebor's mass indoctrination so maybe not so wise for CCP to go that way. But anyhows, are you really up to teaching EVE players? You should go read all the ship balancing threads and what not. To see what you are getting yourself into. You are gonna need all the employees you can find to get that job done. I.E. Hire me :) Well after the last few CSMs player education would be harder and now with the new voting system all I have to say is Good luck with that CCP  They have really made it too much like hard work and as I myself am looking for a new job soon, for private industry requires you to work....I will be trying to join the public sector  So I think I have become allergic to work.
It probably gets really hard to always have to chase aborigines off your land. I would probably move into the public sector as well if I lived in Australia.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1770
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:03:00 -
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I think I know why they changed the voting system to some crap STV designed for a compulsory voting area.
Iceland is really cold.
The STV system will require time to program on a computer. CCP is always telling us it has limited resources.
So what they are planning is that when people vote their ballot paper is then printed out in Iceland, so they can be manually counted.
They chose the STV so that way no one will know who they voted for.
So this way if some ballots accidentally get thrown on the fire at the front of the cave, no one will be any the wiser.
So don't worry if the voting is down this year. It is just CCP staff trying to stay warm.
But seriously an STV system designed for Australian politics and CCP choosing who goes to Iceland. Kind of Poor CCP. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
14404
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Posted - 2013.03.09 13:53:00 -
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If it wasn't for the fact I wanted Malcanis in the CSM, I'd give this new system a wide birth. The cure to not enough voters, isn't to ask for people to vote more than once.
We'll see what happens. But seeing the system and understanding what can happen with the well organised groups we have, I don't have much faith. Malcanis for CSM 8. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1773
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Posted - 2013.03.10 01:27:00 -
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Mag's wrote:If it wasn't for the fact I wanted Malcanis in the CSM, I'd give this new system a wide birth. The cure to not enough voters, isn't to ask for people to vote more than once.
We'll see what happens. But seeing the system and understanding what can happen with the well organised groups we have, I don't have much faith. a bit like that isn't it, you want to let CCP know what we would prefer.
But the reality is now the CSM system caters more to butt kissers, as those who are the largest cheerleaders are those most likely to go to Iceland.
I am sure hard work will be measured by those who make the most "We love CCP" posters. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1055
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Posted - 2013.03.10 11:07:00 -
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That actually brings up another interesting question that will no doubt be ignored by CCP and CSM alike - how exactly does one measure "hard work" in an advocacy group like this? Aside from specifics like finishing Summit minutes (twice a year) or say, the Secretary/Vice Secretary's work. What "work" is there that can be measured by how hard someone works at it? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1778
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Posted - 2013.03.10 12:50:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:That actually brings up another interesting question that will no doubt be ignored by CCP and CSM alike - how exactly does one measure "hard work" in an advocacy group like this? Aside from specifics like finishing Summit minutes (twice a year) or say, the Secretary/Vice Secretary's work. What "work" is there that can be measured by how hard someone works at it? Well lets look at objectively
Trebor sided with them for the destruction of the CSM and then argued with CCPs bottom line for the removal of War decs. So he would be hard working.
Seleene was pretty much a CCP cheerleader so he was hard working.
Two step was just another monkey in the works till he stabbed them in the back over POSs so he was hard working then suddenly stopped being so.
But in all seriousness we the players will never know as the skype conversations are NDA so the worse that can happen is we can have a CSM member claiming that another who was selected for Iceland is not actually hard working and CCP saying yes they are.
No proof will ever be seen by us the players in relation to This.
But the effects will be felt, as you can work your butt off all year long and not go to Iceland if CCP does not invite you, so it is highly likely our CSM reps will side more with CCP in order to get some reward for the long hard work that is being a CSM member.
So as I have said before our only voice left now is who we vote for as the rest of the year will be spent kissing CCPs butt.
Thank you so much CSM7, well to be honest those few who took part in this behind the doors, behind the rest of the CSMs backs planning. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
668
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Posted - 2013.03.12 10:00:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I think I know why they changed the voting system to some crap STV designed for a compulsory voting area. .
This is the problem I see with the the new voting system it is desgned to be more fair with a compulsary voting sytem yet it is not compulsary... that is where IMHO it will fail Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |

merc roy
Brick Manufactoring Inc. WHYS0 Expendable
0
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:06:00 -
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how would one go about actually submitting an application to run for a position in CSM8? |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
290

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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:35:00 -
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Dev Blog is going out soon. All information for applying will be found there. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
670
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Posted - 2013.03.12 18:31:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Dev Blog is going out soon. All information for applying will be found there.
Thnx for the heads up... isn't politics fun  Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
729
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:43:00 -
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While I understand the candidates will be announced 22ndof March die the Pre-Election can we get the number of applications after midnight? I'm really curious in more then 28 applied. Also I'm curious how many filled them out wrong or falsely & got rejected too.
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1354
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Posted - 2013.03.23 16:46:00 -
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Huh... Isn't today March 23rd? Where's the list of candidates and where can we vote them in the pre-election?  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1358
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Posted - 2013.03.24 14:11:00 -
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Huh, nevermind, i just found a sticky at Jita Park warning that the election has been delayed b/c of technical issues. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Nullmer
Yahoo Inc Caffeine Nicotine and Hate
0
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:22:00 -
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I can't seem to vote, nor file a Support request via the website anymore. I'm (obviously, I'm posting here) logged in, but visiting http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/ says I am not logged in, and when I try to vote (View Candidates) I get "You must log in to a valid EVE Online account in order to endorse or vote for candidates." I click the "Log in" link at the top-right and it brings me to https://community.eveonline.com/ and shows that I am logged in.
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/csm-8-pre-elections-open/ shows that I am logged in, but http://community.eveonline.com/support/knowledge-base/ also shows me as not logged in and the same issue as http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/ .
Browsers: Firefox 19.0.2 on Windows 7 x86_64. Google Chrome 25.0.1364.172 m on Windows 7 x86_64. Internet Explorer 10.0.9200.16521CO on Windows 7 x86_64.
I also tried using my other account (which already voted on Monday, 3/25). |

Angalika
Wewordecem Corporation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:32:00 -
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Curiosity QuestionGǪ.
How does the solo player gain representation on the council when it takes votes that theyGÇÖll never be able to accumulate to be considered based on their chosen method of game play? |
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Frying Doom
2094
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Posted - 2013.04.02 04:21:00 -
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Angalika wrote:Curiosity QuestionGǪ.
How does the solo player gain representation on the council when it takes votes that theyGÇÖll never be able to accumulate to be considered based on their chosen method of game play? Campaigning and flying around a lot asking for people to vote for you, plus an attractive web site helps.
Or worse comes to worse do the plex scam on people, fly around offering people a free plex if they vote for you, payable after they are elected. At which point you have no reason to pay up  We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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El 1974
Green Visstick High
80
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:07:00 -
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Will we get new elections when fewer than half the people that voted last year will vote this year (excluding the blank votes)? |

Svipull
Republic Logistics
9
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:47:00 -
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Hi,
I can't do all of the reading.
Is there anybody in the forthcoming CSM who is supporting "role play" and the "walking on stations stuff" ?
Thx for a quick reply.
Fly safely Svi |
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