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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 03/08/2005 00:22:16 I was reading a thread on eve-i about topological maps and thought I would try to automate the generation of them. Here's my first example:
The Catch Region
if that fails goto http://eve-top.tripod.com/ and follow the only link
Any feedback/comments/enhancement requests?
ps. My code is still somewhat broken so I have plenty of work as it is ;)
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General Furyan
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:27:00 -
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Nice! Can you do Delve region too ? Nice work ...
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 03/08/2005 00:39:47
Originally by: General Furyan Nice! Can you do Delve region too ? Nice work ...
Thanks. I just added Delve and some other regions.
delve curse detorid
One area where my code is broken is if a solar system name, constellation name or region name is made up of two words seperated by white space. Hopefully the ones I've posted are all OK. Something for me to fix tomorrow. ;)
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Watson
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:52:00 -
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Nice. Are you using GraphVIZ to generate those? |

Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Watson Nice. Are you using GraphVIZ to generate those?
Indeed I am. I was hoping someone would request vrml support so I could show off! 8)
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.08.03 01:07:00 -
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I just noticed that there's a system called m0o-jg in Delve.
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Watson
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Posted - 2005.08.03 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter
Originally by: Watson Nice. Are you using GraphVIZ to generate those?
Indeed I am. I was hoping someone would request vrml support so I could show off! 8)
Thought so... definitely some nice work there. |

F'nog
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Posted - 2005.08.03 02:42:00 -
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Very nice, though a little large, even at 1600x1200. Can you make some smaller ones that fit on the screen better?
Originally by: Morela
"hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
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Therin Dracul
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Posted - 2005.08.03 03:16:00 -
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Is there any particular reason you used double arrows? since unless something is broken, every jump should be 2-way.
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.03 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Therin Dracul Is there any particular reason you used double arrows? since unless something is broken, every jump should be 2-way.
It's on my list of things to fix/change. With regards the other post about screensize... I'm not sure about shrinking entire regions but will have a go. It certainly helps to have a 1200dpi A3 laser printer or an Apple Cinema Screen 8P
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.08.03 10:24:00 -
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'Image hosted by tri-pod'.
Not very helpful for navigation  -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.08.03 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Andrue 'Image hosted by tri-pod'.
Not very helpful for navigation 
Quote: if that fails goto http://eve-top.tripod.com/ and follow the only link

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Thuban Draconis
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Posted - 2005.08.03 11:29:00 -
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Very nice.
I guess having you map the entire Eve galaxy would be too much to aską
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.08.03 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Dentill on 03/08/2005 12:40:00 Edit - Yay It finally opened.
I think theses are kewl. I started doing some smaller constelation sized maps a while back when bored at work. Not as complete as these...Though I did add the Ice field systems. _______
Save me Jebus!
http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/dd.php |

Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.08.03 12:51:00 -
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What are these useful for?
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.08.03 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lig Lira What are these useful for?
Navigation, and getting to know your way around an area before you have to risk going there.
Originally by: Eris Discordia Verone, I heart you 
MY NAME IS VERONE OF SNIGG, AND I'M GOING TO KILL YOU TILL YOU DIE FROM IT! |

Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.03 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 03/08/2005 15:26:01
Originally by: Thuban Draconis Very nice.
I guess having you map the entire Eve galaxy would be too much to aską
Actually I'm in the process of doing it. I need to solve some minor issues but should have a zip with each region by the end of the week.
I'm also working on adding 'key' information (actual security status, number of stations and the like). I would also *love* to be able to integrate it with the political map but I may just be dreaming.
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.08.03 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter
One area where my code is broken is if a solar system name, constellation name or region name is made up of two words seperated by white space. Hopefully the ones I've posted are all OK. Something for me to fix tomorrow. ;)
system_name [label="system name"]
will be your friend, and i'd switch from "digraph" to "graph", using -- for the edges. maybe u'll also generate postscript, and convert it to pdf, so the resolution-problem gets fixed
nice work :)
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Panshin Bolo
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:39:00 -
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load it up on EVE-Files please 
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter I was reading a thread on eve-i about topological maps and thought I would try to automate the generation of them.
Yes! Yes yes yes!
I've been meaning to get around to doing this sort of thing for ages but I'm too lazy and the real world keeps interrupting.
My three-dimensional network navigation skills are terrible, I need this sort of flattened map to work out where I'm going. Keep up the good work.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:22:00 -
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can we apply a sticky or a offical GM response if they are interested in incorparating this idea into eve itself.
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.04 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Pagefault
system_name [label="system name"]
will be your friend, and i'd switch from "digraph" to "graph", using -- for the edges. maybe u'll also generate postscript, and convert it to pdf, so the resolution-problem gets fixed
nice work :)
Thanks. Graph is much better. Got each constellations set of systems in their own subgraphs and put the true security status in.
I've only been using GraphViz/dot for a couple of days so very much at the crawling rather than walking stage. Heh. Same goes for my bash script that does the pre-processing. Hadn't written a line of sed and awk for over 15 years.
Should have the double line thing sorted tomorrow and plan on trying the postscript/pdf versions over the weekend.
One question to everyone.. would you like to be able to see visually if a 0.0 system has a station in it? (I don't plan on including the details, would just change the systems elipse to a double circle or something).
Dr S
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Panshin Bolo
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:18:00 -
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pgfault, Dr Slaughter,
That's gibbernesh to 98% of us... what, how, ... EVE-Files is your Friend w/o bandwith limits u know 
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Tekran
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:09:00 -
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Luvverly, just luvverly.
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.06 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Panshin Bolo pgfault, Dr Slaughter, That's gibbernesh to 98% of us... what, how, ... EVE-Files is your Friend w/o bandwith limits u know 
8P
Bit behind because of RL. I've got set-up on EVE-Files so when I get all the regions I will post them there and put the link in this thread.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.08.06 14:14:00 -
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This means what? 
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.06 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron This means what? 
Adobe acrobat versions of the region maps will be available on eve-files when I get done doing non-game related things (no time specified although it only needs a couple of hours work to complete. I'm pretty busy as my company is right in the middle of OEMing one of our products to another company and I'm the product manager).
A url link will be provided in this thread to the files location.
They will be easier to view and print than the current jpg versions.
They will include the 'real' security status of each system and visually show if a system has station(s) in it.
All stars in a constellation will be grouped into a box which will be labled with the constellation name.
Jumps will be represented by a single line instead of two lines.
I'm not planning on releasing source code yet.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.08.07 03:06:00 -
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Yes but in what sense is it better than a map with show all lines? Does it tell you what jumps take a few nanoseconds less to make to beat the clock to a certain destination or something?
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2005.08.07 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron Yes but in what sense is it better than a map with show all lines?
You can read it?
It's very difficult to configure the map to give you all the information you want in an easy-to-read form. I want to keep an eye on kills in the last hour, but I also want to be reminded of security status, and whether there's a station in the next system. If I can keep the map showing dynamic information and use a piece of paper for the static information, I'll be a happy bunny.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.08.07 11:13:00 -
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No problems with the map, reading them is my forte and with a very good memory I can keep them layers in my head down to what system has the most belts and moons.
Spam nothing, the game is down and I just woke up.
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