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skilz
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Posted - 2005.08.06 21:18:00 -
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What's right is right and we're right.
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CrusherDK
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Posted - 2005.08.07 01:56:00 -
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co-occupy or become 'Sposnored By'
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sjgay
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Posted - 2005.08.07 10:12:00 -
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might pop in and say hi 
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Jofika Roxwell
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Posted - 2005.08.07 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jofika Roxwell on 07/08/2005 20:00:44
 Originally by: Uggs386
omg this thread is still going, havent bothered to read those novel's of posts, prolly all just a bunch of nonesense, kinda like most of the forums.
Yeah and all ur posts *aren't* nonsence... 
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.08.07 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jofika Roxwell
Edited by: Jofika Roxwell on 07/08/2005 20:00:44
Originally by: Uggs386
omg this thread is still going, havent bothered to read those novel's of posts, prolly all just a bunch of nonesense, kinda like most of the forums.
Yeah and all ur posts *aren't* nonsence...
Nice and constructive that post was...can you not see uggs was emarly pointing out all the pointless flaming. Also-this thread is STILL going.
Ikvar > This peice of
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.08.08 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: dantes inferno on 08/08/2005 06:06:47
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can you not see uggs was emarly pointing out all the pointless flaming.
considering a large portion of the flamming/smack on this and other threads on the pa/xelas issue is coming from uggs and other NBSI members (contrary to the no-smak policy which was made a while back..nice to see you guys listening to you leadership)i would think its safe to say that uggs comment was just more pointles smak.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.08 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
Edited by: dantes inferno on 08/08/2005 06:06:47
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can you not see uggs was emarly pointing out all the pointless flaming.
considering a large portion of the flamming/smack on this and other threads on the pa/xelas issue is coming from uggs and other NBSI members (contrary to the no-smak policy which was made a while back..nice to see you guys listening to you leadership)i would think its safe to say that uggs comment was just more pointles smak.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.08 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: dantes inferno
Edited by: dantes inferno on 08/08/2005 06:06:47
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can you not see uggs was emarly pointing out all the pointless flaming.
considering a large portion of the flamming/smack on this and other threads on the pa/xelas issue is coming from uggs and other NBSI members (contrary to the no-smak policy which was made a while back..nice to see you guys listening to you leadership)i would think its safe to say that uggs comment was just more pointles smak.
Just because you disagree with what someone says does not make it smack talk.
lol pershphanie, I knew if I waited long enough I'd agree with something you said sooner or later. 
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.08.08 17:51:00 -
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O wow and yet this thread is still going, and now I guess posts like this are smack o well. Inserts more pointless smack just for the benefit of the people who have trouble acknowledging sarcastic remarks.
DJ shows his true feelings.
James Kavourias > just need a **** break soon:P
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Eldritch Strange
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Posted - 2005.08.08 19:20:00 -
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Sarcasm is notoriusly difficult to communicate via the written word. Usually it just sounds like you're being an *******.
Try using cleverly ironic statements, those are more enjoyable to read.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2005.08.08 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nyxus on 08/08/2005 22:25:41
"Fools are my theme, let satire be my song. "
-Lord Byron
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.09 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eldritch Strange
Sarcasm is notoriusly difficult to communicate via the written word. Usually it just sounds like you're being an *******.
Try using cleverly ironic statements, those are more enjoyable to read.
Try using a main and people might pay more attention to you.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.09 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 09/08/2005 05:19:33
Did you check him, Darken?
Eldritch Strange shows as having been in Fenix Unlimited for 2 months and 22 days, a corporation with 35 pilots on it's roster. Description says Foundation.
Either way, what is a "main"? Lack of facial reconstruction and DNA resequencing, perhaps?
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.09 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 09/08/2005 05:19:33
Did you check him, Darken?
Eldritch Strange shows as having been in Fenix Unlimited for 2 months and 22 days, a corporation with 35 pilots on it's roster. Description says Foundation.
Either way, what is a "main"? Lack of facial reconstruction and DNA resequencing, perhaps?
Sorry Tatsue, I just don't trust characters who dont bother displaying the corp and alliance. Plus I cant check right now, havent been able to get ingame for 4 days now, cos a stupid subsea cable got damaged. Will be another 72 hours at the very least before I can get ingame.
Oh and why is a foundation guy making comments on events in teh north?
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.09 06:25:00 -
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Read this please, Darken.
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Sentille
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Posted - 2005.08.09 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sentille on 09/08/2005 12:50:33
Cochise
Perhaps its time to ask the Mods to lock this thread? The great north debate will continue in future threads I am sure.
Good luck to Xelas in Fountain.
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Kye Do'lan
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Posted - 2005.08.09 13:22:00 -
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Yeah...it is getting a bit tedious now
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.08.11 16:24:00 -
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lets wait to be announced dead by bob after they pull their missing spoon out of molles **S
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.08.11 16:32:00 -
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OK, having read through 8 pages i'd reckon about the only thing this thread is still missing is...
"enof discushen deth to all"
(that, and a click)
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.11 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Paladineguru
lets wait to be announced dead by bob after they pull their missing spoon out of molles **S
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.11 18:05:00 -
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*shakes fist @ game*
/Khannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
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KOTH Fluf
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Posted - 2005.08.12 07:10:00 -
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I wouldnt get to comfy Xelas. I think there are a few people that are still rather fond of the region. 
Fluf
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MiIes Naismith
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Posted - 2005.08.12 18:36:00 -
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Dont worry cochise will do whatever is necessary to save his ass, thought that would be obvious.
I can see it now, his bob protection is busy elsewhere , so hell just nap whoever comes to claim it once they move on.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.13 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 13/08/2005 02:28:30
Originally by: MiIes Naismith
Dont worry cochise will do whatever is necessary to save his ass, thought that would be obvious.
I can see it now, his bob protection is busy elsewhere , so hell just nap whoever comes to claim it once they move on.
pfft, don't be a bitter little fruit I got the strong impression from dealing with Cochise that he cares more about his people and allies than he does his own ass. Admittedly its a rare trait in 0.0 but not so rare as to warrent the look of mute incomprehension I imagine you adopting behind that full face draping ornament thing you are wearing kind sir
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.13 05:18:00 -
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Why are people still *****in in this thread?
Whats done is done. Cochise did what he thought was right. The Northern allies did what they thought was right and JF and Co did the same. Can't people just get on with the game.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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MiIes Naismith
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Posted - 2005.08.13 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 13/08/2005 02:28:30
pfft, don't be a bitter little fruit I got the strong impression from dealing with Cochise that he cares more about his people and allies than he does his own ass. Admittedly its a rare trait in 0.0 but not so rare as to warrent the look of mute incomprehension I imagine you adopting behind that full face draping ornament thing you are wearing kind sir
LOL I'm not bitter, I'm sickened that one man's betrayal of ALL his agreements with his allies is being heralded as something great among those of you in JF who are still bitter about stuff from two years ago, and as someone who served under cochise for much longer than xelas has been in existence, I know and have seen exactly how he works. From his half assed military leadership post-GNW to his version of a Democracy (co's way or the highway) \o/ yes men ftw eh
and if he was sooo caring about his allies then why did he betray them at the first opportunity he had, if he cares so much for his people then when They KILLED and EXPELLED lord wimbishi for his attempted coup, why did he leave in a huff
If he has so much honesty and integrity why did he LIE to his allies and friends about getting in bed with BoB.
NO he is not someone to respect, even the devil has his good moments. but so far his track record as a person of
Honesty, Integrity, and Leadership leaves much to be desired. My deepest sympathy to those in 20th and xelas who continue to follow such a person. Maybe when the council or govt you now in decides something democratically , and he overrides it all youll start to see what those of us who worked under him before did. The power hungry, ego-maniacal
COWARD who cannot honor a single agreement that might in the future cause turmoil to his position. The mark of a great man is the people he surrounds himself with, and on that note o/.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.08.13 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: MiIes Naismith
rant..
Damn. Are you his ex-wife or something? Did he steal your first-born?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.13 12:54:00 -
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Well MiIes Naismith, you have to admit your rant against Cochise does sound a little bitter and personal to be honest. Lets take it step by step and see whats left?
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LOL I'm not bitter, I'm sickened that one man's betrayal of ALL his agreements with his allies
Technically his PA allies betrayed him and after trying unsuccessfully to dictate his standings with other foreign powers launched a gang-bang to drive Xelas from the region they'd developed. Now you can justify the NVP (Northern Vassal Pact) aggression however you choose (on +5 standings to Bob and 5 etc) but the fact of the matter is it was one alliance dictating foreign policy to another.
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is being heralded as something great among those of you in JF who are still bitter about stuff from two years ago
Well its not so much bitterness as we want to kill you Its true that there are still some people in the PA who betrayed Jericho almost 2 years ago. It did ring a bell of deja-vu what was done to Cochise of course. But you know, its easy to make friendship with JF and bury the ghosts of the past, you just need to do what Cochise did and have a respectful and honest discussion and reach a renewed peace. He was good enough to apologise for the worst actions of the PA while he was a member and that means a lot.
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and as someone who served under cochise for much longer than xelas has been in existence, I know and have seen exactly how he works.
Well, as someone who worked with the guy back in the NVA, fought him when he was PA, and made peace with him post GNW, I'd consider that my corporation and I have some good perspective on him as well.
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From his half assed military leadership post-GNW to his version of a Democracy (co's way or the highway) \o/ yes men ftw eh
Isn't "yes men" what the NVP states want in the north when they dictate foreign policy standings - glass houses y'know.
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and if he was sooo caring about his allies then why did he betray them at the first opportunity he had
See above, its not an accusation that has much weight.
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if he cares so much for his people then when They KILLED and EXPELLED lord wimbishi for his attempted coup,
I'm thinking the answer is in the question
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why did he leave in a huff
Frustrated with the PA ... maybe? just maybe?
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If he has so much honesty and integrity why did he LIE to his allies and friends about getting in bed with BoB.
Pretty sure he didn't. From our perspective you guys in the PA pushed him into friendship with Bob and co. There was something of an attitude of honourable enemies with mutual respect growing between xelas and bob - but it took the backstab from the PA to turn that post-conflict respect into a formal pact and cause.
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NO he is not someone to respect, even the devil has his good moments.
Umm, when are those then?
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but so far his track record as a person of Honesty, Integrity, and Leadership leaves much to be desired.
He saved the PA in the GNW. PA would have been crushed utterly if not for that guy.
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My deepest sympathy to those in 20th and xelas who continue to follow such a person. Maybe when the council or govt you now in decides something democratically , and he overrides it all youll start to see what those of us who worked under him before did. The power hungry, ego-maniacal COWARD who cannot honor a single agreement that might in the future cause turmoil to his position.
I'm kinda agreeing with the Euthoria Released guy here, are you sure your not his ex-wife?
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The mark of a great man is the people he surrounds himself with, and on that note o/.
Well, its funny really, but you know looking round the forums and space comms I'm seeing pretty much all the people I actually liked from the PA gone from the organisation and lots of them joined BoB
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.13 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: MiIes Naismith
among those of you in JF who are still bitter about stuff from two years ago
If that held any weight, wouldn't it be Cochise and Xelas we'd be the most ****ed off at? They've got more ex-PA and ex-NVA than the "PA" has, after all. ;)
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Well, its funny really, but you know looking round the forums and space comms I'm seeing pretty much all the people I actually liked from the PA gone from the organisation and lots of them joined BoB
...or Xelas. :) But it's a bit of a philosophical question, is this still the same PA? I mean, if you use your hovercar for a long time, and during the course of standard repairs and maintenance end up piece-by-piece rebuilding the entire thing, leaving only the GPS (a.k.a OCC) left as an original piece...
...is it still PA? The name is there, but the question kind of remains.
(My answer to the question is probably not what people think it will be, though. :p )
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.13 14:09:00 -
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...or Xelas. :) But it's a bit of a philosophical question, is this still the same PA? I mean, if you use your hovercar for a long time, and during the course of standard repairs and maintenance end up piece-by-piece rebuilding the entire thing, leaving only the GPS (a.k.a OCC) left as an original piece...
...is it still PA? The name is there, but the question kind of remains.
(My answer to the question is probably not what people think it will be, though. :p )
That does all bring it back to the ideological basis of our corporation Tatsue (very clever) and if (as it seems) the current day PA is basically nothing of the original form except Gafton it gets you to thinking that maybe the alliance is some kind of meme plague that endlessly regenerates the same kind of attitudes and approaches to politcal sharp practise that alienated us in the first place.
Perhaps its right to think of the PA like the mythological Hydra that can regenerate fresh heads to replace those that have been cut off in violence and perhaps even more ... who knows if it can regenerate a body from a remnents of a head itself?
But either which way it seems like a damn good example of a hostile meme embodying all the ills of colonial intrigues and sub-machiavellian malfeasence on the galactic stage and presenting the very example of the things our corp was born to fight.
Happy circumstance!
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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